Originally Posted by WindsorIII
But it seems some people on this boards don’t want to hear that side of the opinion pool, where people strongly disapprove of Charlene. They only want to hear those who think because she is blonde, blue eyed and pretty that she is the perfect princess. Then the Rose Ball thread comes back with someone saying we should let her grow into her role as Princess.. Blah blah blah
I just stopped posting at the Monaco thread. When people try to control people’s opinions and the right to descent, I am very American btw, that is when I stop posting, because then it’s a waste of time.
Hopefully everyone will be happily posting again!
I was looking for an answer to some question I had and happened onto this thread. Fascinating !
I was surprised to see that I am quoted (without a reference to me, and as far as I know, somebody else could have said the same thing), in a statement I made about Charlene being possibly capable of growing into her role as a princess if that comes to be. It is the second time I have seen that statement used as either an example of one of these annoying gushers or as someone who really doesn't "get it" about Charlene.
Excuse me ? Why is that statement so annoying ? Other young women have grown into their roles and have shown the ability to change and learn : the Duchess of York comes to mind, as well as Princess Stephanie. Although for all I know opinion-makers may not think highly of them either. It takes some people longer than others to mature and understand their role. Why is it such a crime against common sense to express the wish that another young woman might also learn ?
The issue for me by the way is not about Charlene or who Albert decides to marry or decides not to marry. As a matter of fact, I am totally indifferent to Charlene, one way or another. I guess, as my user name says, although it was chosen by my children somewhat in derision, "I love royals", I actually like people and like to think the best of them until proven otherwise. Sure, Charlene has made mistakes, sure she doesn't seem an intellectual or for that matter, emotional luminary. So what ? Is 30 that old that it's over for her ? tbhrc has that signature quote by Princess Caroline about optimism which ends, if I remember correctly "or there would be a cup". Well, it's an ironic statement, but Charlene could be the cup and might fill up nicely. (Please, this is not a Freudian way of saying she just needs to lie down and fill up with babies. I have to add this since the subject of possible future pregnancies by Charlene seems a hot button issue too.)
For those who feel that people like me take away from the wide range of responses possible in the Charlene-Albert thread, be relieved. You have the floor to yourselves, at least, you have the floor without me. I no longer read , let alone write in that thread (which I have renamed in my mind as the Albert-Charlene bashing thread.) I don't feel it is my role in these forums to be obsessive about whom Albert should or should not marry, nor is it my role to indoctrinate people into seeing someone the way I see them, mostly through rehashing the same arguments over and over again.
Nor do I feel like having my statements distorted in a semi-subtle way. If you look at your paragraph, it would seem that those who want to give Charlene a chance (such an inept statement that it is followed by "blah, blah, blah," really nice and encouraging to other opinions, right ?) do so because she is blond and blue-eyed. Why the non-sequitur ? As it is , (and as a person of varied ethnic heritage who is also getting annoyed at the mid-western American criticism ) I would have made the same statement about Nicole Coste or Jazmine's mother. Speaking about assumptions, the writer of that post is making a lot of subtle and not so subtle assumptions, which, if not pointed out, could really translate into something nasty. It would seem to read that nitwits like me, with their limited imagination and wide prejudices, can only picture another blue-eyed, blond woman to take the place of Princess Grace. Give other members a break and let them speak for themselves without putting words in their mouths. I never said anything about Charlene being adequate because she was blonde. I find that twisting another member's words by surrounding it with another context foreign to the original is almost a kind of slandering and I would encourage you to qualify your statements so we know who wrote what and how.
Somone offered some solid suggestions, such as having Princess Caroline guide Charlene (and IMO, or for that matter, anybody else who might become the next Princess of Monaco), through her steps.
Personally, I don't think that wedding is going to take place, but I wish the next person, if there is one, all the best, and I hope, lots of support.
I am, by the way, disappointed that it didn't work out with Kate Middleton, another young woman I liked. And when I don't like someone or the turn of events in a royal family as much, (Chelsea with Harry, Andrea with Caroline), I keep quiet about it, after maybe one or two posts expressing my dismay.
I think that especially if we are not citizens of a country, we should not feel it is our responsibility to warn people about royals or expect that our criticisms will change the fate of that country. So I'd say "Chill" and enjoy the forums for what they are, a friendly place to exchange observations and opinions, not a place to lecture royals and members about how things should be done in a country. JMO.