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Old 02-24-2017, 02:11 PM
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How can I get in touch with her? I would like to interview her for a documentary.

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Old 02-24-2017, 02:15 PM
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With Princess Nilhan Osmanoglu.

I am working on a documentary of Princess Niloufer. You can see on of my articles about a brooch:
Princess Niloufer?s fascinating brooch

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Old 02-26-2017, 02:58 PM
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Suleyman is touched because she chooses to be a muslim, but being muslim is not the sign of freedom. Padishah needs to set her free because she is still a concubin. The thing is after being muslim she can not be with him without being married religiously. This is the trick. Lots of historians agree that she became muslim to get married to Suleyman but we can not be absolutely sure about that.
No Hurrem was not the first but she is the one in favour of Padishah and the one who converted. Not all concubins can be with Padishah, so not all convertions of concubins matter.

Valide Sultans are muslim but they are not particulary have a concubin origin. They may born in a muslim family. They are generaly daughters of noble families.

No you are right they can keep their religion, no one could ever force them to convert. Forcing someone to convert is against islamic belief. Besides, they are not that slaves, if they don't want to stay in palace they can asked to be married. They get married with high ranking soldiers or pashahs anytime they want.

Hurrem is the first concubin to be married to a Padishah but before Suleyman and Hurrem there are several Padishahs who got married. But they married with daughters of noble families not with concubins. Pretty complicated the Ottoman Empire

Hi Bonbon,

I realise you posted this a very long time ago so I hope you're still around.

I have a question about what you said above. Can I deduce from this that odalisques in the seraglio, or harem, were all non-Muslim and on that note, all slaves from other countries?

Some sources say that Mehmed's mother, Hüma Hatun, was such a woman, though other sources say she was from Anatolia, but my understanding from all my research is that she was of the seraglio.

Could you, or anyone else, please give me some clarification on this?

Many thanks.
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Hi Bonbon,

I realise you posted this a very long time ago so I hope you're still around.

I have a question about what you said above. Can I deduce from this that odalisques in the seraglio, or harem, were all non-Muslim and on that note, all slaves from other countries?

Some sources say that Mehmed's mother, Hüma Hatun, was such a woman, though other sources say she was from Anatolia, but my understanding from all my research is that she was of the seraglio.

Could you, or anyone else, please give me some clarification on this?

Many thanks.
Hi,
i Know that the last 100 years the womens are from caucasus ( Muslim womans)
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Thank you for responding. I'm focused most on the mid-15th Century, though, and my question relates to that period.
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Happy birthday th prince mehmet ziyaeddin
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