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Forteviot ancient palace of the Alpin Kings...

Coordinates: 56°20′22″N 3°32′06″W / 56.339436°N 3.535103°W / 56.339436; -3.535103




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Houses on the square in Forteviot


Forteviot (Scottish Gaelic: Fothair Tabhaicht) (Ordnance Survey grid reference NO052175) is a village in Strathearn, Scotland on the south bank of the River Earn between Dunning and Perth. It lies in the council area of Perth and Kinross. The population in 1991 was 160.
The present village was rebuilt in the 1920s by John Alexander Dewar, 1st Baron Forteviot of the Dewar's whisky family.
Early Bronze Age

On 11 August 2009 archaeologists announced that they had discovered a royal tomb from the early Bronze Age at Forteviot. Along with the remains of the ancient ruler were found burial treasures which include a bronze and gold dagger, a wooden bowl and a leather bag. Archaeologists from Glasgow and Aberdeen universities continue to investigate the finds.
The Pictish Palace of Forteviot

Forteviot is known to have been inhabited in the 9th century. It was a residence of the Pictish kings of Fortriu. King Cináed mac Ailpín (Kenneth mac Alpin or Kenneth I of Scotland d. 858 and his brother King Donald I mac Alpin. It is said that King Kenneth I had died in the 'palace' (palacio), and his successors. The palace formerly stood on Haly Hill, on the west side of the modern village, overlooking the Water of Mey.

The ruins of a 'castle' associated with Máel Coluim III (1058-93) were visible in the 17th century. Several pieces of early medieval sculpture are preserved in the parish church, which is dedicated to St Andrew. The well-known 'Forteviot Arch', an early-9th century monolithic sandstone arch with figural sculpture, discovered in an old bed of the Water of May, west of the terrace on which the village stands, is now in the Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh. It is likely to have once adorned a royal chapel.

Keys, David (11 August 2009). "Ancient royal tomb found in Scotland". London: The Independent. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ancient-royal-tomb-found-in-scotland-1771875.html. Retrieved 2009-08-14.


Oxford Companion to Scottish History. P. 242 - 243. Edited by Michael Lynch. Oxford University Press. ISBN 9780199234820
  • Aitchison, Nick, Forteviot: A Pictish and Scottish Royal Centre. Tempus, Stroud, 2006. ISBN 0-7524-3599-X
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Ancient Royal Tomb found in Scotland...

The find – of international importance – is unique in Britain. The excavations at Forteviot, near Perth, have yielded the remains of an early Bronze Age ruler buried on a bed of white quartz pebbles and birch bark with at least a dozen personal possessions – including a bronze and gold dagger, a bronze knife, a wooden bowl and a leather bag.
The discovery has huge implications for Scottish history. Forteviot has long been known to have been a great royal centre in the early medieval period. It was a "capital" of a Pictish Kingdom in the 8/9th century AD – and one of Scotland's earliest kings, Kenneth MacAlpin, is said to have had a palace there.

But up until now nobody suspected that Forteviot's royal roots might be thousands of years older. The newly discovered prehistoric tomb is of particular importance because it lies at the very heart of Scotland's largest pre-historic ritual/religious ceremonial complex. The excavations are now revealing that back in around 2600 BC, local Neolithic people constructed a giant 250m diameter circle of 200 timber obelisks with a ceremonial processional way leading to its entrance and an inner timber circle at its centre. Each oak obelisk was up to a metre in diameter. Then, by 2400BC, a massive earthwork enclosure with a 10m wide, 3m deep moat was built inside that inner timber circle.

At roughly the same time two other similar earthwork enclosures – "henges" – were built, north of the large timber circle. And finally in around 2000BC the tomb was built underground in what was probably the most prestigious location – immediately opposite the entrance to the henge at the centre of the entire complex.
Uniquely, the tomb's stone wall, at the head end of the grave, was decorated with carvings of two bronze axes. What's more, the tomb's great 2m by 2m, four-ton stone roof was decorated with a much older carving of a probable Neolithic stone battle axe or ceremonial mace head – a fact which suggests that it was removed from an older monument specifically for use in this ultra-high-status prehistoric tomb.
The use of white quartz pebbles and white birch bark as bedding for the dead man may well have been seen as a way of helping to guarantee rebirth in the next world.
The excavation is being directed by Professor Stephen Driscoll and Dr Kenneth Brophy of the University of Glasgow and Dr Gordon Noble of the University of Aberdeen.

"The sheer size of the stone slabs used to construct the tomb, the extremely rare rock engraving, the rare preservation of the leather, wood and bark items and the high status location make this a find of both national and international importance," said prehistorian Dr Noble.
"In terms of preservation, location and scale, this tomb is unparalleled in Britain," he said.
The excavation is continuing on site – and in Edinburgh where archaeologists are examining large blocks of excavated earth from the tomb under laboratory conditions.

2000 BC: A snapshot of prehistoric Britain...
*In 2000BC Stonehenge was in its heyday as a ritual centre.
*Society in Britain was becoming more hierarchical and the change brought a greater concentration of power in the hands of fewer people.
*It is likely that during this time Silbury Hill in Wiltshire, the world's greatest ancient man-made mound, was undergoing expansion to make it even more impressive.
*Gold extraction was in full swing in Ireland – much of it was being sent to Britain. Simultaneously there was a big increase in bronze production in Britain.
*Continental influence was increasing substantially in southern Britain.

While in Egypt
*Ancient Egyptian civilisation was more than 1,000 years old by the time the Forteviot burial took place in Scotland.
*By 2000BC the Great Pyramid at Giza was, at more than 500 years old, already an ancient structure. The other great pyramids were completed by 2150BC.
*The world's first calendar, based on the timings of the Nile floods, had been used by Egyptians for more than 1,000 years. It split the year into 12 months and 365 days.
*Hieroglyphic writing had been developed at least 1,300 years earlier and by 2000BC ancient Egyptians used 800 different symbols.
*The successful mummification of bodies had been carried out for more than 500 years.
*The first Book of the Dead texts had been created to describe the Ancient Egyptian concept of the afterlife and to provide instructions on how the deceased could overcome obstacles to reach it.
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Moot Hill and it's association to King Kenneth of Alpin and his brother King Donald

From the time of Kenneth MacAlpin, who created the Kingdom of Scone in the 9th century, all the Kings of Scots were crowned on the Moot Hill, seated upon the Stone of Scone. Even after the Stone's removal by King Edward I in 1296, the Moot Hill continued to be the crowning place of the Kings of Scots. Probably the greatest historic event to take place at Scone was the coronation of Robert the Bruce, who declared himself King of Scots upon the Moot Hill on 25 March 1306. The last coronation held at Scone was that of King Charles II as King of Scots on 1 January 1651, some nine years before he was restored to the English throne.

Standing on the Moot Hill is a small Presbyterian chapel. Like the Palace, it was restored in Gothic style around 1804. A replica of the Stone of Scone sits upon the Moot Hill, marking the site of the original.
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Kingdom of the Dal Riada connection with the Alpin Kings of Picts and Scoti

Dal Riada - in descent from Cairbre Rioghfhoda (Ríada), son of Conaire, in the line of Heremon. Dal Riata was the tribal and territorial name of the early tribes of County Antrim, particularly the northeast portion. The area later known as the Route (Rúta), in northern co. Antrim, is often equated with the Dal Riada. The Dal Riada extended their kingdom into Scotland probably during the 3rd to the 7th centuries. The early term that the Romans referred to these and other tribes from Ireland was the "Scoti", thus the legend of where Scotland received its name.
An ancient genealogy of Dal Riata cites their common ancestor as Glass mac Nuadait Argatlám of clan Úgaine Mor, from whom are Síl Cuind & Dál Riata & Ulaid & Laigin & Ossairgi. Keating cites in his History, "For Eochaidh Muinreamhar, a descendant of Cairbre Rioghfhada, had two sons, namely, Earc and Olchu. From Earc are descended the Dal Riada of Alba, and from Olchu the Dal Riada of Ulster, from whom the Ruta is called."
Four chief families of Dal Riada (Irish kingdom in Scotland) included the Cineul nGabhrain, Cineul Loairn máir, Cineul Aonghusa, and Cineul Comhghuill.

The Book of Ballymote provides this early list of Irish kings of Dal Riata: Aengus Turmech (of Tara), Fiachu Fer-mara, Ailill Erand, Feradach, Forgo, Maine, Arnail, Ro-Thrir, Trir, Ro-Sin, Sin, Dedad, Iar, Ailill, Eogan, Eterscel, Conaire Mor, Daire Dornmor, Coirpre Crom-chend, Mug-lama, Conaire Coem, Coirpre Riata (Cairbre Rioghfhoda), Cindtai, Guaire, Cince, Fedlimid Lamdoit, Fiachu Tathmael, Eochaid Antoit, Aithir, Laithluaithi, Sen-chormac, Fedlimid, Angus Buaidnech, Fedlimid Aislingthe, Angus, Eochaid Muin-remor, Erc, Fergus [Mor mac Earca of circa 500 AD].

An early lineage of the Dal Riata: (Rawlinson)
Áengus Teamrach (81st Monarch), father of Fiachu Fer-mara, father of Ailill Érann, father of Feradach, father of Forgo, father of Maine Mór, father of Arndail, father of Rothrer, father of Trer, father of Ro-Sin, father of Sin, father of Dedad, father of Iar, father of Ailill Anglonnach, father of Éogan, father of Eterscél (95th Monarch), father of Conaire Mór (97th Monarch), father of Cairpre Finn Mór, father of Dáire Dornmór, father of Cairpre Crommchenn, father of Lugaid Allathach, father of Mogh Lamha, father of Conaire, father of Eochaid (Cairpre Riata), father of Fiachra Cathmáil, father of Eochaid Antóit, father of Achir Cirre, father of Finn Fiacc, father of Cruithluithe, father of Senchormac, father of Fedelmid Ruamnach, father of Áengus Buaidnech, father of Fedlimid Aislingthe, father of Áengus Fert, father of Eochaid Muinremar, father of Erc, father of Fergus Mór mac Earca.

It has been stated that the kingship of Dal Riata was moved to Scotland with Fergus mac Earca and his descendants, and that later in the 6th century the lords of the Dal Riata in Ireland were also allied with their southern neighbors, the Dal Fiatach.
One line of descendants of Fergus mac Earca is cited as:
Ferchar, son of Connad Cerr, son of Conall, son of Comgall, son of Domangart, son of Fergus mac Earca.
Another line is cited as: Cinead (Kenneth), son of Alpin, son of Eochaid, son of Aed Find, son of Eocgaid, son of Eochaid, son of Domangart, son of Domnall Brecc, son of Eochaid Buidhe, son of Aedan, son of Gabran, son of Domangart, son of Fergus mac Earca.
Still another line is cited as: Fianamhail, son of Dunchad, son of Duban, son of Duncath, son of Eoganan, son of Gabran, son of Domangart, son of Fergus mac Earca.


The Annals cite:
  • For 165, Cairpre Riadal, desendant of King Conaire Mor, son of Mogh Lamha, from whom are the Dal Riada.
  • CS499, Fergus Mor Mac Erca, with the tribe of Dál Riada, held a part of Britain and died there.
  • For 501/03, Feargus Mor mac Earca, king of Dal Riada (Alba), died.
  • for 565, Conall, son of Comhgall, chief of Dal Riada.
  • For 572, Conall, son of Comhgall, King of Dal Riada, died. It was he that granted Hy Iona to Colum Cille.
  • For 575, Conaill maic Comgaill, ríg Dal Ríada.
  • For 616, Aedhain m. Mongain regis Dal Riatai [& Araide?]
  • U616, death of Aedán son of Mongan, king of Dál Riata or nAraide.
  • For 624, The battle of Ard Corainn was gained by Connadh Cerr, Lord of Dal Riada, where Fiachna, son of Deman, King of Ulidia, was slain.
  • CS627, The battle of Ard Corann won by the Dál Riata in which fell Fiachna son of Demán by the king of Dál Riata [Dal Fiatach?].
  • U627, The battle of Ard Corann in which fell Fiachna son of Demán: the Dál Riata were victors.
  • For 629, Condadh Cerr rí Dal Riada.
  • U629, Connid Cerr, king of Dál Riatai, fell.
  • CS629, The battle of Fid Eoin in which Mael Caích son of Scannal i.e. the king of the Cruithin was victor. The Dál Riata fell, and Díucaill son of Eochu king of the Cruithin people fell, and Aedhan's descendants, i.e. Rigullan son of Conaing and Faelbhe son of Eochaid and Oric son of Albirit, heir designate of Saxan, with a great slaughter of their followers.
  • CS673, The killing of Domangart son of Domnall Brec, king of Dál Riata.
  • U691, The Dál Riata despoiled the Cruithin and the Ulaid.
  • For 698, Fianamhail Ua Dunchadha, chief of Dal Riada.
  • FA700, Fiannamail grandson of Dúnchad, king of Dál Riata, died.
  • U700, Fiannamail grandson of Dúnchad, king of Dál Riata, and Flann son of Cenn Faelad son of Suibne, were killed.
  • CS704, Destruction of the Dál Riata in Linn Limniae.
  • U704, Destruction of the Dál Riata in Glenn Limnae.
  • U711, An encounter of Britons and the Dál Riata at Lorg Ecclet, in which the Britons were defeated.
  • CS717, An encounter between the Dál Riata and the Britons at the rock called Minuirce, and the Britons were defeated.
  • For 719, Sealbhach, Lord of Dal Riada, went into holy orders.
  • For 727, Eochaidh, son of Eochaidh, chief of Dal Riada, died.
  • U731, A battle between the Cruithin and the Dál Riata of In Muirbolg, in which the Cruithin were defeated.
  • U736, Aengus son of Fergus, king of the Picts, laid waste the territory of Dál Riata and seized Dún At and burned Creic and bound in chains two sons of Selbach, i.e. Donngal and Feradach; and shortly afterwards Bruide son of Aengus son of Fergus died.
  • U736, The battle of Cnoc Cairpri in Calathros at Etarlinde between Dál Riata and Foirtriu...
  • U741, The battle of Druim Cathmail between the Cruithin and the Dál Riata against Indrechtach. The smiting of the Dál Riata by Aengus son of Forgus.
  • For 771, Aedh Finn, lord of Dal Riada, died.
  • For 776, Fearghus, son of Eochaidh, lord of Dal Riada, died.
  • U778, Aed Finn son of Echaid, king of Dál Riata, died.
  • U781, Fergus son of Eochu, king of Dál Riata, died.
  • For 787/92, Donncoirche (Donn Corci), lord of Dal Riatai.
  • For 910, Diarmaid, mac Sealbhaich, tighearna Dail Riatta.
  • CS914, Diarmaid son of Selbach king of Dál Riata, fell.
  • U986, The Danes arrived on the coast of Dál Riata, that is, with three ships, and seven score of them were executed and others sold.
  • CS989, Gothfrith son of Aralt, king of Inse Gall, fell by the Dál Riata.
  • CS1176, Cú Muighe Ó Floinn, king of Uí Thuirtre, Fir Lí, Dál Riada, and Dál nAraidhe, was treacherously killed by his brother Cú Midhe Ó Floinn and by the Fir Lí.
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Royal Ancient Hill Castle of Dunadd of Pictish Kings

Dunadd, (Scottish Gaelic Dún Add, 'fort on the River) , is an Iron Age and later hillfort near Kilmartin in Argyll and Bute, Scotland and believed to be the capital of the ancient kingdom of Dál Riata.

Dunadd is a rocky crag that may have been one time an island and now lies inland near the River Add, from which it takes its name, a little north of Lochgilphead (NR 836 936). The surrounding land, now largely reclaimed, was formerly boggy and known as the Mòine Mhòr 'Great Moss' in Gaelic. This no doubt increased the defensive potential of the site.

Originally occupied in the Iron Age, the site later became a seat of the kings of Dál Riata. It is known for its unique stone carvings below the upper enclosure, including a footprint and basin thought to have formed part of Dál Riata's coronation ritual. On the same flat outcrop of rock is an incised boar in Pictish style, and an inscription in the ogham script. The inscription is read as referring to a Finn Manach and is dated to the late 8th century or after. It was about in this time that a direct ancestor King Locene Macfhingone of Picts is recorded in the the historical book, The Memoirs of Clan Fingon pg. 2 stateing,"Tigernach also makes mention of the fact Locene the son of Fhingon/Fingon/Fingen/Kinnon, King of the Cruithne or Picts, died 645 AD, that Kenneth, son of Alpin, King of Picts, died AD 858, and that Donald (his only brother) son of Alpin, King of Picts, died AD 862 (this Donald is a direct ancestor of MacKinnons).


Dunadd is mentioned twice in early sources. In 683 the Annals of Ulster record: 'The siege of Dún At and the siege of Dún Duirn' without further comment on the outcome or participants. In the same chronicle the entry for 736 states: 'Aengus son of Fergus, king of the Picts, laid waste the territory of Dál Riata and seized Dún At and burned Creic and bound in chains two sons of Selbach, i.e. Donngal and Feradach.

The site was occupied after 736, at least into the 9th century. It is mentioned twice in later sources, suggesting that it retained some importance. In June 1506, commissioners appointed by James IV, including the earl and bishop of Argyll, met at Dunadd to collect rents and resolve feuds. The site is an Ancient Monument, and is under the care of Historic Scotland


Because Dunadd is mentioned in early sources, and is readily identifiable, it has been excavated on several occasions (1904-05, 1929, 1980) and has one of the most important ensembles of finds from any early medieval site in Scotland. Finds range from the 6th to the 8th centuries AD. These include tools, weapons, quernstones, imported pottery and motif-pieces and moulds for the manufacture of fine metalwork (especially jewellery).


  • A View Of The River From The Summit Of Dunaad



  • A View From Atop Dunadd



  • Dunadd Hillfort - A View From The Summit



  • Carved footprint, Dunadd Hillfort

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King Locene MacFhingon of Picts to King Alpin to MacFhingon genealogy

King Locene MacFhingone of Cruithne of Picts b. d.645 AD
Princess Nim of Picts married Ard Righ King Eochaidh II of Lorn
King Eochaidh III of Lorn of Picts b 665 Pictavia, Alba d 721 buried at Reilig Oghran
King Aodh Hugh Fionn of Lorn of Picts b 695 Pictavia, Alba d 778 buried Reilig Odhran
married Ugaria Fergussa of Picts
King Eochaid b 735 d buried at Reilig Odhran Iona
King Alpin of Kintrye b. 784 Kintrye, Alba d. 20 July 841 buried at Reilig Odhran Iona
married to Princess Unuistic of n'Gabran
King Donald of Alpin b 811 Iona d 13 April 863 buried at Reilig Odhran Iona
married to Princess Malvina of Picts
Prince Girig b 835 Skye d 933 buried at Reilig Odhran Iona (not Giric)
married to Princess Dorgvigellia
Prince Doungallus b 900 Skye d buried at Reilig Odhran Iona
married to Princess Spontana of Crimthann of Ireland of Ard Righ King Flann Sinna of Meath Ireland
Prince & Chief Findanus MacFhingone b 930 Skye d 976 buried at Reilig Odhran Iona
married Princess Mary Haakonsdatter of Norway and daughter of King Haakon IV of
Norway.
Prince MacFindanus MacFingon/MacKinnon b 947 Dunnakin Castle d 1020 buried Reilig
Odhran Iona
Donald MacFingon/MacKinnon b Mull 964 d 1033
Cormac MacFingon/MacKinnon b 983 Mull d 1066
Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1031 Mull d 1096
Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1052 Mull d 1126
Kenneth MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1082 Mull d 1156 Strathardill, Skye
Donald MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1099 Strathardill, Skye d 1186
Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1126 Strathardill, Skye d 1216
Eowin MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1149 Strathardill, Skye d 1246
Alpin MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1166 Mull d 1252
Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1198 Mull d 1294
Donald MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1224 Mull d 1315
Eobhan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1261 Mulld 1351 Hanged
Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1328 Mull d 1392 buried Reilig
Odhran Iona
Lachlan Na Thiomlaidh MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1345 Mull d 1442 buried
Reilig Odhran Iona
Nial Budh MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1365 Mull d 1460
Lachlan Bhan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1402 Mull d 1501 Strathardill, Skye
Nial Bhan MacFingon/MacKinnon b. 1500 Strathardill, Skye d 1572
Ewen Rudh nan Cath MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1517 Strathardill, Skye d 1565 (Aug 5 1545 at Castle Fergus Carta Eugeni MacFhingone)
Lachlan Dubh Blackhaired MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1545 Mull d 1634 buried at Cill
Chriosod Iona.
Sir Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1562 Mull d 1634 buried at Cill Chriosod Iona. He was Knighted by King Charles I Jan 15 1628.
Ian Balbhan of Kilmorie MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1579 Mull d 1642 Kilmorie Estate Strathardill, Skye buried at Dunara Castle. Married Catherine of Coll McLean
Sir Lachlan Mor MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1631 Kilmorie Estate Strathardill, Skye d Strathardill, Skye buried at Cill Chrisod. First marriage Mary McLean second marriage Moir of Uilnish McLeod.
Ian Na Mishnish MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1657 Erray House Mishnish Estate Mull d 1750 buried at Cill Chrisod. First wife Anne McDonald second wife Margaret McKenzie.
Lt. John MacKinnon b 1735 Erray House Mishnish Estate Mull d 7 Jan 1771 Tusket Island Sluice. buried at Townpoint Cemetery Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Canada.
Major John MacKinnon b 1752 Erray House Mishnish Estate Mull d 1841 buried Cill Chriosod. Married Dame Margaret Burgess Smithies Affleck. Marriage date Aug 15 1792 at Marylebone Church officiated by Rev John Harley.
Hugh I of Mishnish MacKinnon b Apr 5 1803 Glasgow, Scotland d 25 July 1885 lot 33 Prince Edward Island and buried Highfield Cemetery. Married Anna Elizabeth McDonald of lot 33.
William Alexander MacKinnon b 1822 Glasgow, Scotland d 1912 lot 23 Buried Highfield Cemetery. Married Mary McLean.
William Edwin MacKinnon b 8 July 1864 lot 23 Prince Edward Island Canada d 19 Sept 1951 Bellingham, Washington United States. Married Maude Iva Richards. Maude a descendent of King Richard I of England. Buried at Bayview Cemetery in Bellingham Washington.
William Clarence MacKinnon b 9 May 1889 Bellingham, Washington United States d 18 Oct 1959 Bellingham, Washington United States. Married Esther Hamilton of Hamiltons of New York. Esther's mother was Marjorie Matilda Burdick direct descendnet of Robert Burdick of Rhode Island that was a direct descendent of Plantaganet ancestry.
Ardra Raye McKinnon b 6 Apr 1937 Bellingham, Washington United States. Married Jack Edward Kabela of Austrian descent.


The main sources used:The family (MacFhingon/MacKinnon) bible, Annuls of Ulster, Annuls of the Four Masters, Pictish King History,Poppleton Manuscripts,Book of Deer,Genealogy of St Columba, Memoirs of Clan Fhingon,Book of Durrough,History of Skye, History of Canada, History of Bellingham, History of Midi Kings of Ireland,Annuals of Albania. Castles of the MacKinnons that dated back to the Royal house of Alpin, Dun Ringill, Dunnakin

Let the Clan of Gray Fingon, whose offspring has given such hero's to earth, and such martyres to heaven, Unite with the race of renowned Rori Mor, To Launch the long galley, and the stretch to the oar.
The Gatherings of the Clans, at Glenfinnan 1745 AD

*Note Giric that killed Aed was a stepson to Malvina of Kenneths line and is not of Alpin blood, Giric should not be confused with Girig son of King Donald. BBC History of Scotland Last of the Free with Historian and Archialogist verified this.

* King Kenneth of Alpin (King Donald of Alpins brother) moved his seat of power from Skye ( Western Highlands) to Scone in Perthshire, then later moved again to Dunfermline and lastly Edinburgh. King Fergus Mor ( son of King Erc) established a earlier Kingdom of Dalraiida before King Alpin of Kintyres sons in Skye and Mull. You will find the Isles of Skye and Mull are of original Pictish Stock. The MacKinnon lands consisted of Mull, Skye, Arran, Tiree, Perth, Ross.

* The First of the Grandsons and Great Grandsons (MacFhingon/MacFingon/MacKinnon) were given these grants of lands because they were of Royal Stock. Close enough to gain the throne back in that time.
* This genealogy was done by a experienced genealogist, verified by a attorney and posted on ancestry.com and myspace as well as this site. The owner did not use rootsweb or a public genealogical site to do this genealogy due to incorrect information or a chance a sour line would have attached itself to the clean line.


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Sorry to disappoint the owner of this tree BUT

If you look close at Ian Na Mishnish Mackinnon b 1657 and died 1750 , he was the father of Lt John Mackinnon b 1735 and died in Nova Scotia 1771. It does not compute. Do the math!The genealogist is way off! There is no way that Ian Na Mackinnon could have fathered Lt John Mackinnon at the age of 78 and his wife was close to the same age. They had other children too and if they are going by this information they would have conceived children well into their eighties. How can they explain this.??

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As I posted earlier the last generations can't be correct.

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Ard Righ King Gabran I Cenel Lorne of Ireland*** (454 - 534)
is your 41rst great grandfather to Ardra Raye McKinnon (Kilmorie Mishnish)

Ard Righ King Gabran II of Lorn of Ireland*** (470 - )
Son of Ard Righ King Gabran I Cenel Lorne
&
Eithne of Cenel Connail
Had two sons:
1 Gabhran II of Lorn
2 Crimthann or Colum Cill (St Columba)

Ard Righ King Aedan of Lorn of Ireland*** (495 - 585)
Son of Ard Righ King Gabran II of Lorn

Ard Righ King Eochu Buide of Lorn of Ireland*** (565 - 630)
Son of Ard Righ King Aedan of Lorn

Ard Righ King Domnall I Brecc of Lorn of Ireland*** (588 - 642)
Son of Ard Righ King Eochu Buide of Lorn

Ard Righ King Domangart II of Lorn of Ireland*** (600 - 673)
Son of Ard Righ King Domnall I Brecc of Lorn

Ard Righ King Eochaid II of Lorn of Ireland*** (635 - 697)
Son of Ard Righ King Domangart II of Lorn

King Eochaidh III of Lorn of Pictish Dalraida*** (665 - 721)
Son of Ard Righ King Eochaid II of Lorn

King Aodh Hugh Fionn of Lorn of Pictish Alba*** (695 - 778)
Son of King Eochaidh III of Lorn

King Eochaidh IV 73rd King or Eochy of Lorn of Pictish Alba*** (739 - 839)
Son of King Aodh Hugh Fionn of Lorn

King Alpin of Lorn Royal of Pictish Alba*** (784 - 841)
Son of King Eochaidh IV 73rd King or Eochy of Lorn

King Donald or Dungal I 75th King Royal of Alpin*** (811 - 863)
is your 32rd great grandfather to Ardra Raye McKinnon. The Line is a straight descent of all elder males till Ardra. Kenneth I of Alpins line to Ardra switchs back and forth to older and younger siblings (male and female) and stops at MacBeth in which his stepson Lulach (not of original Alpin bloodline) takes the crown by force.

Prince Girig Royal of Alpin*** (835 - 889)
Son of King Donald or Dungal I 75th King Royal

Prince Doungallus Royal of Alpin*** (875 - )
Son of Prince Girig Royal

Chief Finguine/Findanus Royal MacFhingone/MacKinnon*** (933 - 976)
Son of Prince Doungallus Royal

Chief MacFindanus/Finleac Royal MacFhingone/MacKinnon*** (950 - 1020)
Son of Chief Finguine/Findanus Royal

Chief Donald Royal MacFhingone/MacKinnon*** (967 - 1033)
Son of Chief MacFindanus/Finleac Royal

Chief Cormac Royal MacKinnon*** (983 - 1066)
Son of Chief Donald Royal

Chief Lachlan Royal MacKinnon*** (1031 - 1096)
Son of Chief Cormac Royal

Chief Lachlan Royal MacKinnon*** (1052 - 1126)
Son of Chief Lachlan Royal

Chief Kenneth Royal MacKinnon*** (1082 - 1156)
Son of Chief Lachlan Royal

Chief Donald Royal MacKinnon*** (1099 - 1186)
Son of Chief Kenneth Royal

Chief Lachlan Royal MacKinnon*** (1126 - 1216)
Son of Chief Donald Royal

Chief Eowin Royal MacKinnon*** (1149 - 1246)
Son of Chief Lachlan Royal

Chief Alpin Royal MacKinnon*** (1166 - 1252)
Son of Chief Eowin Royal

Chief Lachlan Royal MacKinnon*** (1198 - 1294)
Son of Chief Alpin Royal

Chief Donald Royal MacKinnon*** (1224 - 1315)
Son of Chief Lachlan Royal

Chief Eobhan Royal MacKinnon*** (1261 - 1351)
Son of Chief Donald Royal

Chief Lachlan or John ,"Sa Gartach" Royal MacKinnon*** (1328 - 1350)
Son of Chief Eobhan Royal

Chief Lachlan Na Thiomlaidh, "Vir Nobilis" Royal MacKinnon*** (1345 - 1442)
Son of Chief Lachlan or John ,"Sa Gartach" Royal

Chief Nial Buidh Royal MacKinnon*** (1365 - 1460)
Son of Chief Lachlan Na Thiomlaidh, "Vir Nobilis"

Chief Lachlan Bhan Royal MacKinnon*** (1402 - 1501)
Son of Chief Nial Buidh Royal

Chief Nial Bhan Royal MacKinnon*** (1500 - 1572)
Son of Chief Lachlan Bhan Royal

Chief Ewen or Eoghan Rudh nan Cath Royal MacKinnon*** (1517 - 1557)
Son of Chief Nial Bhan Royal

Chief Lachlan Dhu The Black Hair MacKinnon*** (1545 - 1634)
Son of Chief Ewen or Eoghan Rudh nan Cath Royal

Sir & Chief Lachlan Royal MacKinnon*** (1562 - 1634)
Son of Chief Lachlan Dhu The Black Hair

Chief Ian Balbhan The Dumb Royal Kilmorie MacKinnon*** (1579 - 1642)
Son of Sir & Chief Lachlan Royal

Sir & Chief Lachlan Mor of Kilmorie Line of the Royal older line of Mackinnon*** (1628 - 1706)
Son of Chief Ian Balbhan The Dumb Royal Kilmorie

Chief Ian Na of Mishnish Royal of Kilmorie Mackinnon*** (1659 - 1750)
Son of Sir & Chief Lachlan Mor of Kilmorie Line

Lt John of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie Mackinnon*** (1735 - 1774)
Son of Chief Ian Na of Mishnish Royal

Major John of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie Mackinnon*** (1752 - )
Son of Lt John of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie

Hugh I of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie Mackinnon*** (1803 - 1885)
Son of Major John of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie

William Alexander of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie MacKinnon*** (1822 - 1912)
Son of Hugh I of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie

William Edwin of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie MacKinnon*** (1863 - 1951)
Son of William Alexander of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie

William Clarence of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie MacKinnon*** (1889 - 1959)
Son of William Edwin of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie

Ardra Raye of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie McKinnon*** (1937 - )
Daughter of William Clarence of Mishnish and Royal Kilmorie
He (chief Ian Na Mishnish)cannot possibly be the father of Lt john Mackinnon as he would have been 78 when he fathered him and his wife was about the same age. They also had other children and that would have put them in the 80's conceiving children.Therefore from Ian NA Mishnish down is all wrong.
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I find I am bored by this mans tedious and uneducated opinion on this matter of Ian Na Mishnish being too old to father a child. If you go to the Offical Historical Book, "Memoirs of Clan Fingon written by Donald D MacKinnon" and look at page 51 second paragraph it states he died at his home in Kilmorie with his children about him and his SECOND wife (which was much younger). This is accepted not only by me but is accepted by the Offical Clan MacKinnon Organization, The Lord Lyon Courts (as when the Antigua Line applied for the Chiefship all this information had to be included at that time), Past Chieftain Charles of Dunnakin. From Ian Na Mishnish son Lt John MacKinnon of Chebogue Nova Scotia down to Ardra Ray of Mishnish Line of MacKinnon is being examined because from Findanus MacKinnon to Ian Na Mishnish has already been examined many years ago. You Sir, have neither the wit to exaggerate nor the genius to convince. When one insults ones work, you should really do your homework first...you do read don't you? Best Regards, Ancient Princess
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Memoirs of Clan Fingon pg 36 and the Strathaird MacKinnon Estate

By Ian Na Mishnish MacKinnons second wife there was sons and one daughter. Lt John MacKinnon of Chebogue that immigrated to Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Col Ranald of Argyle Nova Scotia, Rev Donald that went to the American Colonies never to be heard of again and a daughter that married Alexander Campbell. Ian Na Mishnish had these children late in life with a younger wife.

Memoirs of Clan Fingon


stmt. resp.:by Donald D. MacKinnonauthors:MacKinnon, Donald D. b. 1848, (Main Author)format:Books/Monographslanguage:Englishpublications:Morgantown, West Virginia : Scotpress, 1984ISBN:0912951117subject class:929.241 M216Notes

Reprint of revision published in 1899 by Lewis Hepworth & Co.--the revision was of the original published in 1882.
"Principal works consulted": p. [240]-241.
Family history of the MacKinnon family between about 400 A.D. and 1900 (the clan name in the early years was Fingon or Fingaine--from whom the clan derived). This revision includes genealogical and family data about the family members who colonized in Antigua, Mishnish heirs that settled in Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island Canada. This revision also includes data about the Clan MacKinnon Society, listing its officers in the 1890s; it includes biographical sketches of important MacKinnon individuals, reprints some poetry by clansmen, and gives a bibliography of prose works by clansmen. Included as well is a pedigree chart of the MacKinnon family connections with the royal families of England, Scotland and Wales.
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Ancestry.com site Descendent, a story of all the MacKinnons

I urge you to go to this site on Ancestry.com named "Descendent, a story of all the lines of MacKinnon", It has in proper order all the differant lines of MacKinnon and how they came down with proofs. It is too large to download here. Best Regards to you all, Ancient Descendent
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Further proof of Ian Na Mishnish MacKinnons son Lt John MacKinnon of Chebogue N.S.

Legal Proceedings against Ian Na Mishnish MacKinnons widow. Charles MacKinnon trying to take what belonged to her and her heirs Lt John MacKinnon, Col Ranald MacKinnon, Rev Donald MacKinnon and daughter Eleanor Margaret McKinnon.


Scottish legal tracts: from the library of Ferguson of Raith
Volume Listing
Vol. No.
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Mackinnon, Charles. Information for Charles Mackinnon of Mackinnon, esq;
and John Macleod of Rasay, his tutor, defenders; against Mrs Anne Macdonald,
relict of the deceased John Mackinnon of Mishinish died 1756, pursuer. [Edinburgh, 1765]
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McDonald, Ann. Answers for poor Mrs Ann McDonald, relict of John
McKinnon of Mishinish and his heirs, to the petition of Charles McKinnon of McKinnon,
and his tutor Dative John II Norman of Raasay MacLeod Charles MacKinnons father in law. [Edinburgh, 1765]





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Crown Land Grants given to Ian Na Mishnish MacKinnons son Lt John MacKinnon

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Perkins Documents, recorded Lt John MacKinnons death son of Ian Na Mishnish MacKinnon

Perkins diary news of John Mackinnon's death


THE DIARY OF SIMEON PERKINS
(Extracts)
By
Muriel M. Farquhar Davidson
The following "Extracts" are a combination of research by Lt.Col. Robert Ford Kirkpatrick, USAF (Ret'd) with 1992 research by above writer. The original entries will be marked by ** preceding the date and form of writing has been matched to the diary and original copy. Lt.Col. Robert Ford Kirkpatrick (USAF-Ret'd) published an abbreviated version of the following diary in The Liverpool Advance, with three episodes under the heading : Queen' s County Historical Society. Kirk added a few words of
explanation in the first chapter -- these may also have been reprinted here.
The genealogical data in THE DIARY OF SIMEON PERKINS is very valuable, contains much of the history of the Proprietors who founded the Township of Liverpool, Nova Scotia in 1759. Readers will be familiar with many of the surnames listed in the entries, descendants of the first families of the Township of Liverpool and nearby areas still reside there, but often the surname spelling has changed.
The original books, contained in Volumes I, II, III, IV and V, list many of the schooners and other forms of shipping plus extensive data of weather, tides, encountered hardships and a verbal picture of life in the early days as found by the Proprietors of the Township of Liverpool. Readers are grateful these records were kept.
'OUTBREAK OF REVOLUTION' Chapter III 1774
21 Jan. Fri. : There is a tumult at Boston, occasioned by the East
India Company sending quantities of tea to Boston, and other places in
America. 342 chests of tea, December 18th last, were destroyed by a
number of people dressed as savages.
23 Jan. Sun. : The wife of Nathaniel Freeman delivered of two sons
this morning.

**11 Mar. Fri. : Vessell from Yarmouth brings news of drowning of Lt John McKinnon Esq eldest son of Ian Na Mishnish MacKinnon.

** 5 Apr. Tues. : Edward Kelley [Kelly] marr. Jane Vance, Rev. Cheever
** 9 May : Zoeth Freeman marr. Jane Harlow, d.o. Robert and
Jane (West) Harlow.
27 May Fri. : Infant son of Simeon Freeman died.
28 May Sat. : An infant child of Joseph Freeman dies this morning.
19 June Sun. : A regiment of soldiers are encamped on Boston Common. There are 13 men of war at Boston.
**16 July Sat. : Arthur Vance deceased a few days ago.
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Verification of Lt John MacKinnon Land Grants Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Archives

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Ian Na Mishnish MacKinnons second son...Col Ranald MacKinnon

The MacKinnons of Argyle
Jackson Ricker, in his book, ‘Historical Sketches of Glenwood and the Argyles', gives numerous references to the MacKinnons [which he variably spells ‘McKinnon'] of Argyle, and describes "the tallest figure" in their ranks as Colonel Ranald MacKinnon, who was born on the Isle of Skye in Scotland. In his early years, Ricker relates, he came to America as Ensign in a Highland Regiment, serving in the West Indies and in the Colonies. He fought in the war between the English and the French, and later - as a Lieutenant - in the war against the Indians, at which time he was wounded. In 1766, with peace restored between England and France, he was posted to Halifax and first visited the Argyles in a surveying party. There he discovered a land similar to his Scottish home and he opted to transfer to the militia and settle there. In consideration of his military service, he was given "extended areas of land making up what was later to be known as Argyle." In fact, it was he who changed its name from the Indian Abuptic to the Scottish Argyle.
MacKinnon's land grants, as outlined by Ricker, included "all of MacKinnon's Neck, Roberts Island and lands as far north as the former Eel Brook, now Ste. Anne du Ruisseau." as well as many of the larger islands offshore. He built his home "on what has for many years been known as Sargent's Hill but at first was MacKinnon's Hill" and he established a successful working farm. When Ricker was writing, almost 200 years later, the cellar of the house and fruit trees still survived, including a pear tree still bearing.
Some of MacKinnon's land was leased to other settlers. Ricker quotes a copy of such a lease taken from the Registry of Deeds in Yarmouth. Note the spelling inconsistencies (from the present day) of MacKinnon's surname and, indeed, those of Pothier or Pottier, Burke, Babine, and Surette, as well as other misspelled words and place names.
"LEASE, Ranald McKinnon to Dominique Potier, John Burk, John Babin, Paul Surat, Peter Surat, dated August 16, 1775. Eight Spanish Mill Dollars to be paid to the Sd. McKinnon yearly forever, that is to say the first payment of 8$ to commense Michelmas Day next ensueing. The said Ranald McKinnon did Demise, Grant and to Farm Lett, 230 acres, beginning the place comonly called the carring place on the Eastly side of Goose Bay extending North and bounded by Goose Bay and Eal Lake until you come to Eal Brook. Especially the Eal Fishery to be by them enjoyed in every particular."
Ricker also copied "an instrument [eleven years prior to the above] conveying certain lands from Ranald MacKinnon to Joseph Moulaison as follows:
Yarmouth, June 27th, 1764
"KNOW all men by these presents that I Ranald McKinnon do hereby give and bequeath unto Joseph Mollisiong two hundred and fifty acres of the land he now possesseth, marsh in proportion for his proper use and benefit, including in the said one half of my cleared land, so long as he or his continue to live on the same, as witness my hand."
Ricker explains that the land thus conveyed to Joseph Moulaison was land he and his people occupied before the Scottish settlers came to Abuptic/Argyle and were given their land grants by the Provincial Government under British authority. "The fact," says Ricker, "that Ranald McKinnon gave Moulaison legal possession would indicate an act of friendliness on his part. This seems to be a gift to Moulaison" since no amount of money was mentioned in the document.
Ricker documents Ranald's rise through the ranks in a somewhat confusing manner. He states in one section of the book (p. 111) that: "In 1775 he received a Captain's Commission and in the following year was appointed Lieutenant-Colonel in the Militia." And yet, (on p. 87) he quotes a record "taken from the provincial ‘Commission Book' for 1793-1796", as follows:
"By His Excellency The Right Honorable Lord William Campbell,
To Ranald McKinnon, Esq., Greeting:
By virtue of the Power and Authority to me given and granted by His Majesty's Commission I do hereby constitute and appoint you to be Major of Militia for the Township of Yarmouth, Barrington and Argyle, in the Province of Nova Scotia, during pleasure, You are therefore to take the said Militia into your care and charge and to duly exercise as well the Officers as men thereof in arms, and to use your utmost endeavours in pursuance of the trust in you reposed, to keep them in good order and discipline; and I do hereby command them to obey you as their Major. And you are to observe and follow such orders and instructions as you shall from time to time receive from Myself Your Colonel or any other your Superior Officer according to the Laws and Regulations already made or what shall be made for the Militia of this Province. Given under My Hand and Seal at Halifax this Seventeenth day of July 1771 and the Eleventh year of His Majesty's Reign, WILLIAM CAMPBELL "
Again, the records used by Ricker in his research seem to confuse the chronology of events leading from Ranald MacKinnon's appearance as a Lieutenant in his Highland Regiment to his ultimate rank as Lieutenant-Colonel in the Militia. On p. 88 of his book, Ricker refers to "A sentiment against Britain on the part of the Captain [Jeremiah Frost] of the Militia in the Township of Argyle. The Governor and Council decided to dismiss Capt. Frost and to improve the Militia by appointing Ranald McKinnon, Esq., who had already a Lieutenant's Commission, as Lieut. Colonel, and to have under his command all of the Militia of Queens County.
"The Governor proposed further that Col. McKinnon ‘do without loss of time, proceed to Argyle with twenty men of the recruits now raising here for the King's service, and be furnished with four barrels of gunpowder and ball in proportion, to be by him accounted for.'
"And the Governor also proposed to the Council that he thought it would be proper to recommend Mr. McKinnon for the rank of Captain in the army." This was dated August 25t, 1775.
An explanation of such seemingly sharp rises in rank may be that an officer could hold one rank in His Majesty's Army at the same time that he held another, and higher, rank in the local Militia. Ricker explained that the "Militia in the British Colonies and under British laws was a body in reserve, especially for home defence." and that "Earlier in Britain it was made up of retainers who under the feudal system rendered military service in tenure of property." Thus, MacKinnon's land grants may have accrued from the service in the Militia.
Col. Ranald MacKinnon married a Miss Piggott of Halifax and they had a family of eight daughters and five sons. He died at Shelburne in 1805. One of his sons, John, inherited the part of his father's estate known as MacKinnon's Neck, where he built a home and farmed the land. He was the first man from Argyle to represent the former County of Shelburne in the Provincial House of Assembly. He served for three terms, covering the years from 1820 to 1832. He remained active in politics, with documents showing him nominating various candidates to stand for office as late as 1855. He was also a Major in the Militia, a Magistrate, and a Customs Officer. (It is interesting to note that his officer's rank was not acquired through military service, but was bought for him by his father.) Major MacKinnon married Elizabeth Frost and they raised ten children. After Elizabeth's death, he married a widow, Mrs. Martha Chandler. At the time of Ricker's history, none of these children settled in Argyle; one daughter lived in Newburyport, Mass., a son in Prince Edward Island, and the others around Yarmouth County. Another son of Col. Ranald MacKinnon, Robert Colin, married Rhoda Kenney of Barrington and they had ten daughters and fours sons. Two of these, Elizabeth (wife of Matthew Jeffery) and Emily (wife of William H. Nickerson) were the only members of the family to settle in Argyle and, in Ricker's words: "Many years ago the name disappeared." It is amazing to think that so prolific a family left no trace other than the name of landmarks in the area.
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Dear ANCIENT princess,

You were quite nasty and rude with your response.

Yes I do read and that is why I found discrepencies in the tree!!!!
You are wrong about Ian Na Mishnish fathering children in his eighties. Yes his family and children were by his side when he died but there is no proof of their ages . The information on Ian Na Mishnish here states he was born 1657-1750.
I rechecked ancestry.com and checked out this person's tree and low and behold the information has now conveniently changed in the past weeks. Ian Na Mishnish dates are now 1682-1756 . Wow what a difference. A 25 year difference. Seems more plausable for him to father children in his fifties rather than in his eighties, don't you think?.
I find it rather hard to believe that the information about Ian Na Mishnish being born 1657-1750(by yor chart) was already accepted as you say by the Lyons court. Now that there has been a change in Ian NA Mishnish's birthdate and death was that change submitted?

How could you think that it is insulting to correct important information that might change a person's tree.?

I think that you too should check your homework and I see that you CAN READ so don't think that people here are giving uneducated opinions as you say I have given because I DID FIND INACCURACIES!!!!!!!!!

Happy searching!!!

Oh by the way Ancient Princess, either you are the owner of the tree on Ancestry.com or are directly connected to this person because the last 3 articles you have posted are mine. I added this to ancestry a few weeks ago .so in effect you are trying to tell me that this information has come from a person that gave an uneducated opinion and can't read etc. (I can prove that this genealogical information)belongs to me. In the future I would appreciate appropriate comments and communication concerning the Ian Na Mishnish research

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This information that you claim is from you is from a book available to buy...

Hester, I do not know who you are but one thing I do know is you are going out of your way to insult someone that you do not know and I and others here are not here for that. You do not own the information, unless you are the arthur of the book this information is from (That you are able to buy for research anywhere online) so you might be careful claiming that and as far as the rest of th information is from other sources that anyone can obtain online. A person that goes out of their way to insult someone and stalks them online is out of line in my opinion and is a bit disturbing to say the least. I would appreciate you leaving me alone and that is the last time I will ask. Thank you, Is that nice enough for you? You have been reported to the Royal Forum Owner. Ancient Princess
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You claim the last three documents are yours...I beg to differ.

Hester, I received these records from the owner of the site on ancestry and I know for a fact this information was purchased as part of the research on the Mishnish line of MacKinnons along with a Family Bible that dates back to the time of Mishnish. Any person that is on ancestry can obtain all sorts of information or from other sources online. You Sir, are splitting hairs and it is a waste of my time. The records that the owner of the site on ancestry used was also helpful with the Attorney they obtained in Nova Scotia. So like I said you might want to calm down. It is not up to you what is right and what is wrong, it is not your place to do so. It will be up to the Honorable Lord Lyon Courts to decide this matter. When you insult someones efforts it is not in good form and you know it. I for one applaud the efforts of the heirs of the Mishnish line of MacKinnons. And as you may know from your own research of Mishnish MacKinnons their lineage should have been observed legally long ago. The changes in dates, times locations is part of getting a genealogy correct before it is submitted to the Lord Lyons and it is not up to you to demand it be done in a certain way because every person does their research in their own style. You Sir, need to let the Lord Lyons decide this matter and get on with your life. I bid you Peace but will not put up with your insults.
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Ancestry.com site Descendent, a story of all the lines of MacKinnon

- Ancestry.com will get you to this informative site. The Mishnish line of the MacKinnons as it turns out is the eldest in line left. Noted Historian, Sir Arthur Tuner Thomas VC, GC, KG (Wales), KCB, KGMG that is the Offical Royal Historian and approved Genealogist of HRH Queen Elizabeth is a current memeber of this site. The genealogy of the elder heirs left of Mishnish MacKinnons are on this site also.
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