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Old 09-10-2011, 12:51 PM
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Tanist Succession starting in Ireland then migrating to Scotland, but; the Picts...?

Now I realize the the law of Ireland on Tanistry came to Scotland around the 5th century, however what are the ancient rules of Pictish Ard Righ Kings? This is where I for one have a question. The monarchy, chiefship, land and titles were passed to the eldest male, but; the Pictish rules were all together differant.
The Tanist (or Tannist) is an interesting concept, and not much has been written about it. In its simplest terms, a Tanist was a royal successor. Tanistry seems to be Celtic in origin, and appears to have been imported into Scotland from Ireland in the fifth century. In the earliest days, the Tanist was not necessarily directly related to the king, or even the same branch of the royal family; however they would share a common ancestor. In fact, during the early middle ages, the King was elected by the noble princely families, and the Tanist was elected as well. It was a lifetime post. The Pictish rules of succession were differant and this is my point.
In theory, the Tanist would have been an ambitious and capable successor, “without blemish”, able to take on the rulership in a time when a chieftain’s life expectancy often did not allow for his sons to achieve manhood. The Tanist Succession would encourage rotation between branches of a family, and was considered a fair way to keep balance. However, more often than not, it led to dynastic infighting.
Malcolm II, in 1005, was the first (since King Kenneth and King Donald time) Scottish monarch to introduce hereditary monarchy and female-line succession at the same time (as the Ard Righ Kings of Dalraida had done till Kenneth I of Alpin and his brother Donald I of Alpin), since his heir, Duncan II, was descended from his eldest daughter. This innovation caused great conflict and he had to spend many years clearing the way to the throne for his grandson.
So the concepts of Tanist Succession and Patrilinear Succession bumped into each other and wreaked havoc for centuries until Tanistry was abolished by James VI (James VI of Scotland). The system lingered in a diminished form in Ireland until the mid-19th century. The key word here is abolished by James VI of Scotland...and to conclude my point how will all these rules effect a direct descent from a original royal line of the House of Alpin...?

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The Laws of Succession from the Pictish Kings list...

The list of kings does verify one area which is the largest obstacle to those who seek the Celtification of the Picts - The list delivers clear evidence that the Picts were a matrilinear society - that is: the bloodlines passed through the mother, and rarely did a son succeed a father to the crown of Pictland. This is rare enough in western society and not recorded in any Celtic society (although the Scots, once they assumed the Pictish throne, curiously kept a matrilinear descent of the crown, but within the Alpin dynasty). This Pictish matrilinear evidence is confirmed by Bede, who wrote that the Pictish succession went through the female line. Bede also re- affirms the existence (at least at the time of his writing in the mid 700's) of the Kingdom or Queendom if you will...

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The last High King of Ireland,Ruaidrí Ua Conchobair also King of Connacht.

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Ruaidri Ua Conchabair or known as Rory Conner O'Conner

King of Dublin

Ruaidri Ua Conchobair was later anglisized as Rory Conner O'Conner served as Tanaiste of Connacht 1126-1144. Conchobair was over twenty sons sired by Tairidelbach Ua Conchobair and his first chosen heir. An army was led by Toirdhealbhach Ua Conchobhair, and he gave the kingdom of Ath-cliath and Leinster to his own son, Conchobhar; he afterwards proceeded to the South, and defeated Cormac Mac Carthaigh, and burned his camp at Sliabh-an-Caithligh.

King of Mide

Following Tairrdelbach's kidnapping of the king of Mide in 1143, "the kingdom of Meath was given by Toirdhealbhach to his own son, Conchobhar." However, the strtagey backfired as the annals fo 1144 record:
Conchobhar, son of Toirdhealbhach Ua Conchobhair, heir apparent to the monarchy of Ireland, was killed at Bealach Muine-na-Siride, by Ua Dubhlaich, lord of Feara-Tulach, for he considered him as a stranger in sovereignty over the men of Meath. Toirdhealbhach Ua Conchobhair gave West Meath to Donnchadh, son of Muircheartach Ua Maeleachlainn; and he divided East Meath equally between Tighearnan Ua Ruairc, lord of Breifne, and Diarmaid Mac Murchadha, King of Leinster, and they remained thus under the protection of the Connaughtmen.
Later that year, "four hundred cows were given by the men of Meath to Toirdhealbhach Ua Conchobhair, as eric for his son, Conchobhar."
Conchobair's death resulted in the released of his half-brother, Ruaidhri, who would eventually insinuate himself as his father's Tánaiste.

Children and descendants

Brian Mainech, son of Conchobhar, son of Toirrdhelbach was killed at the battle of Ath na caisberna in 1159, a significant defeat of Connacht by Aileach.

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Tairrdelbach Ua Conchobair anglicized to Turlough Mor O'Conner

Family background

Toirhealbach Ua Conchobair 1088-1156 was King of Connacht 1106-1156 and High King 1120-1156. The youngest son of Ruaidrí na Saide Buide (died 1118), his mother was Mór, daughter of Toirdelbach Ua Briain (1009–14 July 1086). His brothers were Niall (killed 1093), Tadc (killed 1097), Conchobar (murdered 1103), Domnall, King of Connacht (deposed 1106). There was at least one sister, Dubhchobhlaigh Bean Ua hEaghra of Luighne Connacht (died 1131). Ruaidrí was married to four or more women.
In 1092, King Ruaidrí was blinded by Flaithbertaigh Ua Flaithbertaigh, an incident which led to the domination of Connacht by the Dal gCais of Munster, led by Tairrdelbach's uncle, Muirchertach Ua Briain, who possibly took Tairrdelbach into his household to groom him for the day when he would be king of Connacht. (p.471,MIAE 2005)
However this would not occur until 1106; until then, Connacht endured a prolonged period of civil strife between different factions of the Uí Conchobair, Uí Ruairc of Bréifne as well as more minor families of the Uí Briúin and Síol Muireadaigh, including the long-displaced Ui Fiachrach Aidhne. Tairrdelbach's brothers Tadc and Domnall both gaining the kingship at different times, but depended upon the support of Ua Briain.


In 1106, with the support of his uncle Muirchertach Ua Briain, eighteen-year old Tairrdelbach deprived his older brother Domnall of the kingship of Connacht. He would remain king of Connacht for fifty years.
"Tairrdelbach carefully maintained his alliance with Ua Briain, sending troops to aid the high king agains the Ui Ruaric of Bréifne in 1109. But he was also determined to defend his kingdom against predators such as Domnall Mac Lochlainn (d. 1121), king of the north of Ireland." (O'Byrne, p. 471)
Tairrdelbach constructed Dún Bhun na Gaillimhe (“Fort at the Mouth (bottom) of the Gaillimh”) in 1124. A small settlement grew up around this fort and eventually this developed into Galway city.
The Cross of Cong, made at the behest of Tairrdelbach was designed to be placed on top of a religious staff or crosier. It was made for the Cathedral church at Tuam. The cross was subsequently moved to Cong Abbey. He is also believed to have refounded Cong Abbey circa 1135.

Wives and children

Tairrdelbach had the following known wives:
  • Caillech Dé Ní Eidin
  • Órfhlaith Ní Mailshechlainn, died 1115
  • Mór Ní Lochlainn, died 1122
  • Tailltiu Ní Mailshechlainn, sister of Órfhlaith, died 1127
  • Derbforgaill Ní Lochlainn, died 1151.
  • Dubhcobhlach Ní Maíl Ruanaid, died 1168.
Dubhaltach Mac Fhirbhisigh, writing in 1649, wrote the following account of Tairrdelbach's family (219.16 - 220.13, pp. 486–489):
" Toirdehealbach Mor s. Ruaidhri, high-king of Ireland, had many sons; Ruaidhri, king of Ireland also, Cathal Croibhdhearg, king of Connacht, Domhnall Mor, tainst of Connacht (to him was finally granted the hundredfold increase) were his three sons by his wife; Maol Iosa, coarb of Coman, was the eldest of his family (and his heir), and Aodh Dall and Tadhg Alainn and Brian Breifneach and Brian Luighneach, Maghnus and Lochlainn, Muircheartach Muimneach, Donnchadh, Maol Seachlainn, Tadhg of Fiodhnacha, Cathal Mioghran, two [sons named] Conchabhar, Diarmaid, Domhnall, Muirgheas, Tadhg of Dairean, Murchadh Fionn."
  1. - Conchobair Ua Conchobair, fl. 1126-1144
  2. - unnamed daughter, wife of Murchadh Ua hEaghra, murdered 1134
  3. - Aedh Dall Ua Conchobair, fl. 1136-1194
  4. - Ruaidrí Ua Conchobair, fl. 1136-1198
  5. - Tadhg Alainn Ua Conchobair, died 1143/1144
  6. - Cathal Migarán Ua Conchobair, died 1151 or 1152
  7. - Cathal Crobdearg Ua Conchobair, 1152-1224
  8. - Donnell Mor Mideach Ua Conchobair, died 1176
  9. - Brian Breifneach Ua Conchobair, fl. 1156
  10. - Brian Luighnech Ua Conchobhair, fl. 1156-1181
  11. - Maghnus Ua Conchobair, died 1181
  12. - Mór Ní Conchobair, died 1190
  13. - Muirchertach Muimhnech Ua Conchobair, died 1210
  14. - Máel Ísa, Abbot of Roscommon, died 1223
  15. - Muirgheas the Canon, died 1224
  16. - Aedh
  17. - Maghnus
  18. - Lochlann
  19. - Donchadh
  20. - Maol Seachlainn
  21. - Tadhg Fiodhnacha
  22. - Conchobair
  23. - Diarmaid
  24. - Tadhg Dairean
  25. - Murchadh Finn
  26. - Uran
Via his son, Brian Luighnech O Conchobhair, descended the dynasties of O Conchobhair Sligigh, O Conchobhair Ruadh and O Conchobhair Donn (O'Conner Don), respectively.
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The Gaelic Kings and Kingdoms in Ireland...

Gaelic Ireland consisted of as few as five and as many as nine main kingdoms, subdivided into dozens of smaller kingdoms. The primary kingdoms were Connacht, Ailech, Airgíalla, Ulster, Mide, Leinster, Osraige, Munster and Thomond. Until the end of Gaelic Ireland they continued to fluctuate, expand and contract in size, as well as dissolving entirely or being amalgamated into new entities.

The names of Connacht, Ulster, Leinster and Munster are still in use, now applied to the four modern provinces of Ireland. The following is a list of the main Irish kingdoms and their kings.Ri Cocaid: Kings of the Fifths

Ard Ri Cocaid febressa: High-Kings with Opposition

Maire Herbert has noted that Annal evidence from the late eighth century in Ireland suggests that the larger provincial kingships were already accruing power at the expense of smaller political units. Leading kings appear in public roles at church-state proclamations ... and at royal conferences with their peers. (2000,p. 62). Responding to the assumption of the title ri hErenn uile (king of all Ireland) by Mael Sechlainn I in 862, she furthermore states that
... the ninth-century assumption of the title of "ri Erenn" was a first step towards the definition of a national kingship and a territorially-based Irish realm. Yet change only gained ground after the stranglehold of Ui Neill power-structures was broken in the eleventh century. ...The renaming of a kingship ... engendered a new self-perception which shaped the future definition of a kingdom and of its subjects.
Between 846-1022, and again from 1042–1166, kings from the leading Irish kingdoms made greater attempts to compel the rest of the island's polity to their rule, with varying degrees of success, until the inauguration of Ruaidri Ua Conchobair (Rory O'Connor) in 1166,

High-Kings of Ireland 846-1198
Ruaidhri, King of Ireland

Upon the death of Muirchertach Mac Lochlainn in early 1166, Ruaidhri, King of Connacht, proceeded to Dublin where he was inaugurated King of Ireland without opposition. He was arguably the first undisputed full king of Ireland. He was also the only Gaelic one, as the events of the Norman invasion of 1169–1171 brought about the destruction of the high-kingship, and the direct involvement of the Kings of England in Irish politics.
One of Ruaidri's first acts as king was the conquest of Leinster, which resulted in the exile of its king, Dermot MacMurrough. Ruaidri then obtained terms and hostages from all the notable kings and lords. He then celebrated the Oneach Tailtann, a recognised prerogative of the High Kings, and made a number of notable charitable gifts and donations. However, his caput remained in his home territory in central Connacht (County Galway). Ireland's recognised capital, Dublin, was ruled by Hasculf Thorgillsson, who had submitted to Ruaidri.
Only with the arrival of MacMurrough's Anglo-Norman allies in May 1169 did Ruaidri's position begin to weaken. A series of disastrous defeats and ill-judged treaties lost him much of Leinster, and encouraged uprisings by rebel lords. By the time of the arrival of Henry II in 1171, Ruaidri's position as king of Ireland was increasingly untenable.
Ruaidri at first remained aloof from engagement with King Henry, though many of the lesser kings and lords welcomed his arrival as they wished to see him curb the territorial gains made by his vassals. Through the intercession of Archbishop Lorcán Ua Tuathail (Lawrence O'Toole), Ruaidri and Henry came to terms with the Treaty of Windsor in 1175. Ruaidri agreed to recognise Henry as his lord; in return, Ruaidri was allowed to keep all Ireland as his personal kingdom outside the petty kingdoms of Laigin (Leinster) and Mide as well as the city of Waterford.
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Current Chief of MacGregors statement about history

Current Chief of Clan MacGregor statement verifying they are not descended from Alpin
Many sources claim we are descended from Griogar, said to have been the third son of Alpin, King of Scotland, who commenced his reign in 833. Alternatively claims have been made for descent from his eldest brother, Kenneth MacAlpine, but these are both impossible to trace. According to Buchanan of Auchmar, the Clan Gregor were located in Glenorchy as early as the reign of Malcolm Canmore (1057-1093). Hugh of Glenorchy appears to have been the first of the Chiefs who was so styled. Before this the Clan system, as we know it, was not in place.

Major Sir Malcolm MacGregor of MacGregor
7th Baronet, 24th Chief of Clan Gregor
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There were four principal Clan Gregor families descended from Gregor of the Golden Bridles. These were Glenstrae, Glencarnaig, Roro, and Glengyle. The Chiefs originally were of the Glenstrae branch which died out as a result of long persecution. Leadership then often switched from one to the other of the three remaining families.
Rob Roy MacGregor was never a Clan Chief but was considered a "Captain," leading the Clan in battle, and was Tutor to Gregor Macgregor, otherwise called James Graham of Glengyle or Glùn Dubh (Black Knee), after his father died leaving him the Chiefship of the Glengyle branch when he was just 10 years old. In clanship a Captain would be appointed as a military leader when the Chief was a minor or otherwise unsuited for the role.
In 1714 Alexander Drummond (or MacGregor) of Balhaldie (Bohaldy), of the Roro line was elected was Chief. He was succeeded by his son, William before 1743. William was created a baronet in the Jacobite peerage by James the Old Pretender. William's eldest son was Alexander born in 1758 and suceeded his father in 1765. The latter Alexander became a Captain in the 65th Regiment. In 1774, when the Act of Proscription against Clan Gregor was finally repealed, another election was organised and General John Murray Macgregor of Lanrick, descended from the Glencarnaig line, was acclaimed as the new Chief. He was elected while Alexander of Balhaldie was still alive and serving in the army in the West Indies. Alexander of Balhaldie raised an unsuccessful court action against Sir John Murray. [see note below by #18]
The current Chief is descended from the Glencarnaig line.

The following list is only an approximation and is subject to frequent revisions. Most of the dates are estimated. There are a series of obits up to Gregor (John Murray) no. 12 who died in 1629. Thereafter the succession passed to his brother Patrick Roy who was alive in 1651. The records are rather vague about the succession of the descendants of Ewin the tutor which ended with Kilmanan.
  • Griogair of the Golden Bridles, b~1300; d~1360
  • Eoin cam (Ian of the One-Eye), son of Griogair, .b~1325; obit.1390
  • Eoin dubh, son of Eoin cam, b~1350; obit.1415
  • Gille-coluim (Malcolm "the lame lord"), son of Eoin dubh, b~1375; obit.1440
  • Padraig, son of Gille-coluim, b~1405; obit.1461
  • Eoin dubh, son of Padraig, b~1440 obit.1519 (his son Maol-coluim dsp 1498)
  • Eoin MacEoghan, gt-gt-gt-grandson of #3. Eoin dubh, b~1480; obit 1528
  • Alasdair ruadh of Glenstrae (Allister Roy), son of Eoin MacEoghan, b~1515; obit 1547
  • Eoin ruadh, son of Alasdair ruadh, b~1540; obit 1550
  • Griogair ruadh of Glenstrae 'The arrow of Glen Lyon', brother of Eoin ruadh,

    b~1541; executed 1571

  • Alasdair ruadh of Glenstrae, son of Griogair ruadh, b~ 1569; executed 1604
  • Gregor, alias John Murray, nephew of Alasdair ruadh, b ~1599. last recorded 1639 (sold Glenstrae to Glenorchy in 1624)
  • Patrick Roy, brother of Gregor, b~1600; d~1650s
  • James, son of Patrick Roy d~ 1670s (?)
  • Gregor, son of Malcolm, g-son of Ewin the tutor, d~ 1680s
  • Archibald of Kilmanan, cousin of Gregor, d~ 1704
  • Alexander MacGregor or Drummond of Balhaldie (Bohaldy) - Roro - elected in 1714, d.1743
  • William Macgregor Drummond of Balhaldie succeeded his father 1743. d. ~1765
  • [Alexander MacGregor Drummond of Balhaldie, b1758, succeeded 1765.]

    Alexander of Balhaldie was not elected and was living outside Scotland. Had he been more dynamic the opportunity for Sir John to campaign for the chiefship might not have arisen. There were also disputes about the seniority and right of the original Balhaldie in 1714. Alexander unsuccessfully sued Sir John Murray in 1795. Note the numbering suggests that Sir John Murray did not accept the succession of William in 1743.

  1. Sir John Murray (Macgregor) of Lanrick (Glencarnaig branch), elected chief in 1775. Baronetcy created in 1795
  2. Sir Evan John Macgregor 1785-1841, 2nd Baronet of Lanrick, founder of the Clan Gregor Society in 1822 Obtained royal license to resume the name MacGregor in 1822.
  3. Sir John Athole Bannatyne Macgregor of MacGregor, 3rd Baronet, 1810-1851
  4. Sir Malcolm Murray Macgregor of MacGregor, 4th Baronet, b.1834, d.1879
  5. Sir Malcolm MacGregor of MacGregor, RN, 5th Baronet. b.1873
  6. Brigadier Sir Gregor MacGregor of MacGregor, 6th Baronet. b.1925, d.2003
  7. Major Sir Malcolm MacGregor of MacGregor, 7th Baronet.
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The Honorable Standing Council of Highland Chief MacGregor

This was taken from the Official site of the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs and it is current July 2011.

Clan Chiefs

Details of the the current Clan Chiefs who are members of the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs are shown below. Although every care has been taken in the preparation of these details, the accuracy of individual entries cannot be guaranteed. All errors, omissions or corrections should be directed to Mr. Romilly Squire at the office of the Standing Council.
Clicking on the clan crest will take you to the specific clan section where you can learn more about the history of the clan, view its various tartans and discover a great deal of further information.

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Now as far as the MacGregors go they went back as far as Hugh of Glenorchy and before this (according to the Honorable Chief and the Lord Lyons Courts) there was no MacGregor/Gregor/Grigor recorded and no viable evidence to prove their case. There were four main lines of MacGregor; Gregor of Glenstrae, Gregor of Glencarmaig, Gregor of Roro and Gregor of Glengyle. The Eldest line died out being Gregor of Glenstrae. This is from the accepted genealogy of the current Chief of MacGregor and examined and approved by the Lord Lyon Courts. There are many people out in this world today that are related to MacGregors that would like you to think they go back further than they really do. So moral to the story always check any Clan Chiefs lineage with the Lord Lyons Courts and the Council of Irish and Scottish Chiefs as they have the only reliable sources for genealogies. MacGregors did not go back to Fearchar Og. I bid you all a great night, Ancient Princess
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Current Chief of Clan MacKay The Lord Hugh MacKay 14th Lord of Reay

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I did a background check on The Lord Hugh MacKay 14th Lord of Reay of Clan MacKay and found He is in fact a Chief, However; it states on the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs that a Elizabeth Fairbairn of Clan MacKay is we were both right. I went further to find out who she was and found on the MacKay clan site that she serves as the Hon Elizabeth Fairbairn of MacKay Clan. The lineage that Domhangairt had put done is doubtful, but; he was correct in stating the Chief of Clan MacKay is Hugh MacKay. My apologies Domhangairt. If you go the the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs they have Elizabeth down as Chief, so it is the error of the council to post that down. Now as far as the current Clan MacGregor Chief, the information I have is from the Chief himself so you will have to take up your differant version with him. Domhangairt, I bid you peace again, now lets enjoy the site alright?

Here is what the Offical Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs has down for the current Chief of Clan MacKay...this is taken from their site so you can see that this is where I gleaned the information. It states that the current Chief of Clan MacKay is Elizabeth Fairbairn which in turn would make her a Chieftess.

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The Clans of the Scottish Highlands by R.R. McIan published in 1845 page 124 Soil Mhorgan No Clann Aodh - Clan MacKay first paragraph:
The origins of this clan cannot be satisfactorily discovered, but traditionary notices have been collected which carries its descent to Morgan son of Magnus the ancestor of MacKays that flourished from 1315 to 1325 and from him the clan has been calledSiol Mhorgan the race and offspring of Morgan.

Scottish Highlanders by Charles MacKinnon of Dunakin pg 188 published 1984 first paragraph:
The Mackays had a definate record of genealogy as being descended from Alexander alive in 1214 who appears to have been their founder. Walter his son who was a chamberlain to the bishop's daughter. Martin his son. Magnus his son who fought for the Bruce at Bannockburn 1314. Morgan his son and this is where the clan is called at times Morgan. Donald his son married MacNeil of Gigha. Aoidh or Y his son counted as the 3rd chief from whom the clan takes it's name MacKay or Clann Aoidh.

The Norwegian Sagas have a connection to MacKays. The historical record of MacKays are connected with the Donald of Moray which was a younger brother to MacBeth. It also states in the Clans of the Scottish Highlands that the Rt Hon Eric Lord of Reay left no issue so the Chiefship went to the younger brother the Rt Hon Major Alexander MacKay and if his family failed it would go to the family in Holland. MacKay of Auchness is accounted Chief presumptive on failure of the direct elder line.

*This is just some of the differant versions of MacKay.
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The Great Scottish Highland Macquarries are the only Clan related to MacKinnons...

The great MacQuarrie Clan history and it's lost Chief...

The Chiefship of the Clan

The first chief of the name that we have any definite proof of was Iain or John Macquarrie of Ulva, who died around 1473. Histories speak of chiefs leading the clan earlier on as they are from the second son Guirrie of Prince Doungallus and Princess Spontana of Ireland, Hector MacQuarrie of Ulva supported the Bruce at Bannockburn and even earlier, during the reign of Alexander II, in 1249, Cormac Mor, chief of Ulva, supported the king against Norwegian invaders and was killed by Haco of Norway.

The last MacQuarrie chief was Lauchlan MacQuarrie of Ulva who was born in 1715 and died in 1818 at Glenforsa in Mull, at the age of 103.

The status of the chief of any clan must be approved through the Lord Lyon King of Arms in Scotland. Lord Lyon has declared that a clan with a dormant chiefship may install a cean-cath, or Commander of the clan, to rally the clan, convene meetings, etc. All members of the clan would treat him with the respect and honor worthy of his position, as if he had been selected by the chief to act as his representative in his absence. Such a Commander would need to be selected by the armigerous members of the clan and approved by Lord Lyon. The elder line apparently died out. It has been found that the only clan related to MacKinnons was in fact MacQuarrie (as he was the second youngest brother of Findanus) and there were two younger brothers below Quarrie.

A goal for the MacQuarrie clan in the 21st century is to appoint a Commander and search for our hereditary chief.

Lauclan MacQuarrie, last chief of Clan MacQuarrie, d. 181
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King Locene MacFhingone of Cruithne of Picts b. d.645 AD
Princess Nim of Picts married Ard Righ King Eochaidh II of Lorn
King Eochaidh III of Lorn of Picts b 665 Pictavia, Alba d 721 buried at Reilig Oghran
King Aodh Hugh Fionn of Lorn of Picts b 695 Pictavia, Alba d 778 buried Reilig Odhran
married Ugaria Fergussa of Picts
King Eochaid b 735 d buried at Reilig Odhran Iona
King Alpin of Kintrye b. 784 Kintrye, Alba d. 20 July 841 buried at Reilig Odhran Iona
married to Princess Unuistic of n'Gabran
King Donald of Alpin b 811 Iona d 13 April 863 buried at Reilig Odhran Iona
married to Princess Malvina of Picts
Prince Girig b 835 Skye d 933 buried at Reilig Odhran Iona (not Giric)
married to Princess Dorgvigellia
Prince Doungallus b 900 Skye d buried at Reilig Odhran Iona
married to Princess Spontana of Crimthann of Ireland of Ard Righ King Flann Sinna of Meath Ireland
Prince & Chief Findanus MacFhingone b 930 Skye d 976 buried at Reilig Odhran Iona
married Princess Mary Haakonsdatter of Norway and daughter of King Haakon IV of
Prince MacFindanus MacFingon/MacKinnon b 947 Dunnakin Castle d 1020 buried Reilig
Odhran Iona
Donald MacFingon/MacKinnon b Mull 964 d 1033
Cormac MacFingon/MacKinnon b 983 Mull d 1066
Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1031 Mull d 1096
Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1052 Mull d 1126
Kenneth MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1082 Mull d 1156 Strathardill, Skye
Donald MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1099 Strathardill, Skye d 1186
Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1126 Strathardill, Skye d 1216
Eowin MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1149 Strathardill, Skye d 1246
Alpin MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1166 Mull d 1252
Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1198 Mull d 1294
Donald MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1224 Mull d 1315
Eobhan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1261 Mulld 1351 Hanged
Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1328 Mull d 1392 buried Reilig
Odhran Iona
Lachlan Na Thiomlaidh MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1345 Mull d 1442 buried
Reilig Odhran Iona
Nial Budh MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1365 Mull d 1460
Lachlan Bhan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1402 Mull d 1501 Strathardill, Skye
Nial Bhan MacFingon/MacKinnon b. 1500 Strathardill, Skye d 1572
Ewen Rudh nan Cath MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1517 Strathardill, Skye d 1565 (Aug 5 1545 at Castle Fergus Carta Eugeni MacFhingone)
Lachlan Dubh Blackhaired MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1545 Mull d 1634 buried at Cill
Chriosod Iona.
Sir Lachlan MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1562 Mull d 1634 buried at Cill Chriosod Iona. He was Knighted by King Charles I Jan 15 1628.
Ian Balbhan of Kilmorie MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1579 Mull d 1642 Kilmorie Estate Strathardill, Skye buried at Dunara Castle. Married Catherine of Coll McLean
Sir Lachlan Mor MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1631 Kilmorie Estate Strathardill, Skye d Strathardill, Skye buried at Cill Chrisod. First marriage Mary McLean second marriage Moir of Uilnish McLeod.
Ian Na Mishnish MacFingon/MacKinnon b 1657 Erray House Mishnish Estate Mull d 1750 buried at Cill Chrisod. First wife Anne McDonald second wife Margaret McKenzie.
Lt. John MacKinnon b 1735 Erray House Mishnish Estate Mull d 7 Jan 1771 Tusket Island Sluice. buried at Townpoint Cemetery Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Canada.
Major John MacKinnon b 1752 Erray House Mishnish Estate Mull d 1841 buried Cill Chriosod. Married Dame Margaret Burgess Smithies Affleck. Marriage date Aug 15 1792 at Marylebone Church officiated by Rev John Harley.
Hugh I of Mishnish MacKinnon b Apr 5 1803 Glasgow, Scotland d 25 July 1885 lot 33 Prince Edward Island and buried Highfield Cemetery. Married Anna Elizabeth McDonald of lot 33.
William Alexander MacKinnon b 1822 Glasgow, Scotland d 1912 lot 23 Buried Highfield Cemetery. Married Mary McLean.
William Edwin MacKinnon b 8 July 1864 lot 23 Prince Edward Island Canada d 19 Sept 1951 Bellingham, Washington United States. Married Maude Iva Richards. Maude a descendent of King Richard I of England. Buried at Bayview Cemetery in Bellingham Washington.
William Clarence MacKinnon b 9 May 1889 Bellingham, Washington United States d 18 Oct 1959 Bellingham, Washington United States. Married Esther Hamilton of Hamiltons of New York. Esther's mother was Marjorie Matilda Burdick direct descendnet of Robert Burdick of Rhode Island that was a direct descendent of Plantaganet ancestry.
Ardra Raye McKinnon b 6 Apr 1937 Bellingham, Washington United States. Married Jack Edward Kabela of Austrian descent.

The main sources used:The family (MacFhingon/MacKinnon) bible, Annuls of Ulster, Annuls of the Four Masters, Pictish King History,Poppleton Manuscripts,Book of Deer,Genealogy of St Columba, Memoirs of Clan Fhingon,Book of Durrough,History of Skye, History of Canada, History of Bellingham, History of Midi Kings of Ireland,Annuals of Albania. Castles of the MacKinnons that dated back to the Royal house of Alpin, Dun Ringill, Dunnakin

Let the Clan of Gray Fingon, whose offspring has given such hero's to earth, and such martyres to heaven, Unite with the race of renowned Rori Mor, To Launch the long galley, and the stretch to the oar.
The Gatherings of the Clans, at Glenfinnan 1745 AD

*Note Giric that killed Aed was a stepson to Malvina of Kenneths line and is not of Alpin blood, Giric should not be confused with Girig son of King Donald. BBC History of Scotland Last of the Free with Historic verification.

* King Kenneth of Alpin (King Donald of Alpins brother) moved his seat of power from Skye ( Western Highlands) to Scone in Perthshire, then later moved again to Dunfermline and lastly Edinburgh. King Fergus Mor ( son of King Erc) established a earlier Kingdom of Dalraiida before King Alpin of Kintyres sons in Skye and Mull. You will find the Isles of Skye and Mull are of original Pictish Stock. The MacKinnon lands consisted of Mull, Skye, Arran, Tiree, Perth, Ross.

* The First of the Grandsons and Great Grandsons (MacFhingon/MacFingon/MacKinnon) were given these grants of lands because they were of Royal Stock. Close enough to gain the throne back in that time.

* The only clan that can claim a relationship with the MacKinnons are the MacQuarries, however the elder line of them died out and there is a current search for the heir to become Chief of MacQuarrie. The MacQuarries are from Prince Doungallus & Princess Spontana second son Quarrie. There were four (4) sons (in order...Findanus, Quarrie, Gille Crist, Adoman) and Findanus direct ancestors and descendents were MacKinnons. Early on they were known as Fhingon or Fingon or Fhingone and have a direct lineage to original Ard Righ Pictish Kings, Ard Righ Irish Kings dating back to St Columbas brother which was a King and came from a long line of Kings dating back to Heremon. The current legitimate heir of the Kilmorie Mishnish MacKinnons has the right to claim a direct line back up to King Donald I of Alpin (with proof and new evidence) and will have the Honorable Lord Lyon Courts in Edinburgh and the Chief Herald in Ireland examine and approve the lineage. There is a current Honorable Chieftess Anne Gunhield of MacKinnon of the Antigua Branch that is of the line of many MacKinnon Chiefs, however; it has been found their ancestor was not of an elder line. It turned out the Kilmorie Mishnish MacKinnon line due to some other lines dieing out and the other line that was not of an elder line can claim not only the Chiefship but it became clear that the MacKinnons were the Only line or Clan coming straight down from King Donald I of Alpin without interuption with elder males till 1937. Now if you look at King Kenneth I of Alpins line it goes back and forth with younger sons and Bethoc and stops at MacBeth (Lulach is not of Alpin Blood) but on King Donald I of Alpins line it continued straight down. There was confusion with whom this Giric that crowned himself king after killing Aed (Kenneths son), he turned out to be King Kenneth I of Alpins daughter stepson and not of the Alpin line or any other royal line and then there was Girig which is King Donald I of Alpins son (check Burkes Peerage and other historic documentation) that continued down through MacKinnons. King Alpin had two (2) sons Kenneth & Donald and a grandson Girig, Donalds son.
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Offical List of the Original Clans and what date they went back to...

This is the information about the Original Clans and how far back they go and to whom. You shall see why the genealogy of Ardra Raye McKinnon has become so important. I invite you to go to each Chiefs site on the internet and investigate for yourselves where there lines stopped. Without a doubt the line of Kilmorie Mishnish line that Ardra is from is the cleanest I have seen and it dates back to not only the original Alpin Kings but it also has many Royal lines that came into it such as the original Pictish High Kings it also dates back to the original Ard Righ Kings of Ireland.

Sliochd Fhinnon

According to The Clans of the Scottish Highlands The Costumes of the Clans by R.R. McIan written in 1820. This book was dedicated to Queen Victoria. Clan Fhinnon/ MacKinnon/MacFhingone, MacInnon is the only Elder line of the Alpin branch of the tree to date. The line has a detailed proven genealogy, historic documentation, DNA Studies that proves once and for all the exact line of the Ancient High Kings of all Ireland, Ancient High Kings of Pictavia, Ancient Kings of Alba and Scotland before any other Clan. Related only to MacQuarries (which is from Doungallus second son) and MacGregors marrying into Mackinnons much later and seem to be related to Giric a Gael prisioner (BBC Historian and Genealogist History of Scotland Neil Oliver has verified this) that made friends with King Aed and later killed him. It turns out he was the stepson of King Kenneth I of Alpins daughter Malvina and this is whom the MacGregors are connected to and not to the Royal line of Alpin at all as originally thought. Giric (not to be confused with Girig King Donald I of Alpins son) claimed himself King although he had no Royal blood. Clan Grant and MacNabbs coming in much later than MacGregors, MacAulays and MacPhees are not related to the Alpin line nor are they related to Mackinnons by proof of DNA studies and their own histories found on thier Offical Clan websites and verified by their Clan Chiefs. The Only Clan that came close to us in relation is the MacQaurries coming in at the mid 900's and in 1671 when a deed was drawn up at Kilmorie between Lachlan MacFhingone giving James MacGregor of that Ilk recognition as a relation acknowledgeing them as marrying into MacKinnon Clan later and then passed to Malcolm MacGregors Elder line. Here is how all the Original Clans are arranged alphabetically and you will see the dates on all the origins of these clans and whom they are related to:
Clan Buchanan-1240 Gillebrid Earl of Lennox
Clan Cameron-1590 Donald Du
Clan Campbell of Argyle-1266 Gilliespuig Cambel
Clan Campbell of Breadalbane-1300 Sir Collin thrid son of Duncan Campbell
Clan Chisholm-1290 Guthred Thane of Caithness
Clan Colquhons-1329 Conoch
Clan Cummin-1329 of Norman Descent
Clan Davidson-1296 Lachlan Davidson
Clan Drummond-1060 Doncha Drumanach
Clan Farquharson-1670 Findlay Mor Farquharson
Clan Ferguson- 1364 Alexander Ferguson
Clan Forbes- 1442 Lord Forbes
Clan Fraser-1290 Sir Andrew Fraser
Clan Gordon- 1280 Gordon of Berthwithshire
Clan Graeme-1128 William de Graeme of French descent
Clan Grant- 1160 Malcolm the second son of Gregor of the MacGregors. This is a Clan that is related to MacKinnon but comes in later.
Clan Grants of Glenmoriston-1509 John Grant of Glenmoriston
Clan Gunns- 1237 Gunn second son of Ollav the Black and of Norweigen descent
Clan Kennedy- 1290 Black Headed Roland Kennedy
Clan Lamond-1295 Lauman
Clan Logan-1316 John Logan
Clan MacAllister-1263 Angus Mor MacAllister
Clan MacArthur-1249 Branch of Clan Campbell
Clan MacAulay-1390 Aulay brother of Madduin and not related to MacKinnons
Clan MacBeans-1745 Branch of Clan Cameron
Clan MacColl-1338 Branch of MacDonalds
Clan MacCruimins-1600 Proffessional attendant of MacLeod Chief
Clan MacDonlad of Clan Ranald-1337 John MacDonald
Clan MacDonald of Keppach-1337 John MacDonald
Clan MacDonald of Glencoe-1346 Ian Fraoch MacDonald
Clan MacDonald-1338 Donald MacDonald
Clan MacDonnell of Glengarry-1337 Donald of Glengarry
Clan MacDuff- 1056 MacDuff Thane of Fife
Clan MacDugals-1290 Dungal of Somerland
Clan MacDugal-1300 Donalla
Clan MacGillivary-1263 Gabria
Clan MacGregor- Married into Mackinnons much later in 1270's and that is how the connection arose. MacGregors are related to a Gael named Giric (not Girig which is Donald I of Alpins son) which was a (step son) to Malvina daughter of King Kenneth I of Alpin making Giric of Gael no blood relation to the Alpin line.
Clan MacInnes-1645 Hereditary Bowmen to MacKinnon Chiefs and not blood related
Clan MacIntire-1338 Branch of MacDonald
Clan MacIntoshes-1291 son of Thane of Fife
Clan MacIvors-1153 Ivor of Duncan
Clan MacKay- 1325 Morgan of Norway and of Norweigen descent
Clan MacKenzie-1225 Colin Fitzgerald
CLAN MACKINNON- 645 King Locene MacFhingon of Picts, King Alpins second son King Donald I of Alpin (however Kenneths line married into Donalds line later. King Kenneth was they only brother to King Donald I of Alpin) straight down with elder males of MacKinnon/MacFhingon till 1937 when Ardra was born. The Elder Royal Line left is the Kilmorie Mishnish McKinnon Line and the heir is Ardra Raye McKinnon who is alive today in the Pacific Northwest of the United States.
Clan MacLachland of Lochaban-1745 MacLachland
Clan MacLaurin-1781 Laurin of Argyle
Clan MacLean-1255 Gillean MacGillean
Clan MacLennan-1600 Gillie Inain
Clan MacLeod-1300 Torcul of MacLeod
Clan MacMillans-1249 Brother of Chief of the Buchanans
Clan MacNabbs-1306 Abbot of Glendochart
Clan MacNachtans-1267 Gilliechroid MacNachtans
Clan MacNicol-1400 MacGrigul
Clan MacNeil-1400 MacNeils of Barra and is no way related to nor any written record found connecting them to O'Niels of Ireland. Found evidence connecting the current Chief to a third younger line and not the elder line of Argyle which died out. The Argyle line was from Doungallus of Alpins forth youngest son but like I have said this line died out and are not of a clean line nor the elder line.
Clan MacPharlan-1329 Earls of Lennox
Clan MacPhee-1772 Clan Donald of Kintyre
Clan MacPhersons-1153 Catti of Germany or Gauls Murdoch the Elder and is a Germanic Tribe
Clan MacQuarries-950 related to Mackinnons but it is through 2nd son Quarrie of Doungallus as 1rst son was Findanus MacKinnon.
Clan MacRaes-1363 are a branch of MacKenzies
Clan Mathesons-1263 Chief Coinneach
Clan Menzies-1100 Robert Menzies
Clan Munroe-1490 Donald o'Ceann
Clan Murray-1220 de Moravia from France & Lords of Dunmore
Clan Ogilvies-1120 Gillchroid of Angus
Clan Robertson-1360 Duncan Robertson
Clan Roses-1400 Family from Kilravock
Clan Ross-1235 Earl of Ross
Clan Shaw-1056 Related to MacDuff
Clan Sinclair-1513 Dugald of France Comte de Saint Claire
Clan Skene-1360 Branch of the Clan robertson
Clan Stewart/Stuart 1043 are of a Germanic Tribe and have a tie to France and after Bancho Thane of Lochaber killed MacBeth they came into the Kingship.
Clan Sutherland-1197 Related to Catti of Germany or Chattens which is also from a Germanic Tribe coming from Germany in 1197
Clan Urquhart-1306-William Urquhart of Cromartie

For the rest of the Clans they all came in much later. This is a list of the ORIGINAL CLANS. The only ones that can claim Alpin stock are MacKinnon being the most Ancient and the Great MacQuarries from the second son of Doungallus.
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The House of Hamilton

Scottish family named Hamilton who historically held broad territories throughout central and southern Scotland, particularly Ayrshire, Lanarkshire and the Lothians. The Hamiltons' main areas of influence were in the Scottish Lowlands, excepting the Isle of Arran, from which territory, the chief of Hamilton bears the Lymphad of the Isles on his arms.
The family is descended from Walter fitz Gilbert of Cadzow, an Scoto-Norman comrade of Robert the Bruce, and rose in power to be the leading noble family in Scotland, second only to the royal House of Stewart, to whom they were closely related. Members of the family have held a number of titles in the peerages of both Scotland and Great Britain, the principal title being Duke of Hamilton, the duke himself being the senior representative of the House of Hamilton. Chief among the legends still clinging to this important family is that which gives a descent from the House of Beaumont, a branch of which is stated to have held the manor of Hamilton, Leicestershire; and it is argued that the three cinquefoils of the Hamilton shield bear some resemblance to the single cinquefoils of the Beaumonts. In face of this it has been recently shown that the single cinquefoil was also borne by the Umfravilles of Northumberland, who appear to have owned a place called Hamilton in that county. It may be pointed out that Simon de Montfort, the great earl of Leicester, in whose veins flowed the blood of the Beaumonts, obtained about 1245 the wardship of Gilbert de Umfraville, second earl of Angus, and it is conceivable that this name Gilbert may somehow be responsible for the legend of the Beaumont descent, seeing that the first authentic ancestor of the Hamiltons is one Walter FitzGilbert. He first appears in 1294–1295 as one of the witnesses to a charter by James, the high steward of Scotland, to the monks of Paisley; and in 1296 his name appears in the Homage Roll as Walter FitzGilbert of "Hameldone." Who this Gilbert of "Hameldone" may have been is uncertain.
Chisholm, Hugh, ed (1911). "Hamilton (family)". Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press.
The Hamiltons' new lands lay at the interface between the Britons of Strathclyde (a recently defunct Brythonic kingdom), the Kingdom of Scotland (predominantly Gaelic), as well as the Germanic lands of Northumbria.
In the early period, the chieftaincy of the FitzGilberts probably alternated between septs. However, seemingly in the mid 14th century, one primogeniture line appears to have consolidated its position of chiefs of the Hamilton to the extent that James Hamilton, 1st Lord Hamilton married a daughter of King James II, Princess Mary Stewart. From that lineage, the heads of the House of Hamilton descend. During the 16th century the Hamiltons made their home on the Island of Arran in 1503 and for most of that century a Hamilton was close to inheriting the Crown. The 2nd Earl of Arran was heir to the throne both of King James IV of Scotland and Mary, Queen of Scots. As Mary's regent he enjoyed her wealth and was bribed into allegiance with both England and France. Arran's third son John was made Marquess of Hamilton in 1599 and was keeper of Edinburgh and Stirling Castles. His son James succeeded in 1604 to his father's titles, and in 1609 to his uncle's. Previously, in 1587 Arran's brother Claud had been made first Lord Paisley. His son James had been created Baron Abercorn in 1603, and in 1606 Earl of Abercorn, Lord Paisley, Hamilton, Mountcashell and Kilpatrick for his assistance to King James VI at the Union of the Crowns. Abercorn predeceased his father, and his son James, Master of Abercorn succeeded to his fathers titles in 1618. He had already been made Baron Hamilton of Strabane in the Peerage of Ireland in 1617. Claud, Lord Paisley died in or around 1621 and his grandson inherited his Lordship of Parliament. The Irish title came with significant property in Co. Tyrone, Ulster, and this branch of the family is now represented by James Hamilton, 5th Duke of Abercorn. The Abercorns, although a junior branch of the family, are the heirs male to the chieftancy.

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MacDonald Chiefs

Clan Donald is one of the largest Scottish clans. There are numerous branches to the clan. Several of these have chiefs recognised by the Lord Lyon King of Arms; these are: Clan Macdonald of Sleat, Clan Macdonald of Clanranald, Clan MacDonell of Glengarry, Clan MacDonald of Keppoch, and Clan MacAlister. Notable branches without chiefs so-recognised are: the MacDonalds of Dunnyveg, MacDonalds of Lochalsh, the MacDonalds of Glencoe, and the MacDonalds of Ardnamurchan. The Norse Clan Donald traces its descent from Dòmhnall Mac Raghnuill (d. circa 1250). Clan Donald shares a descent from Somerled with Clan MacDougall, who trace their lineage from his son, Dugall mac Somhairle.Their dynasties are together commonly referred to as the Clann Somhairle. Furthermore they are descended maternally from both the House of Godred Crovan and the Earls of Orkney, through Somerled's wife Ragnhildis Ólafsdóttir, daughter of Olaf I Godredsson, King of Mann and the Isles and Ingeborg Haakonsdottir daughter of Haakon Paulsson, Earl of Orkney. It remains uncertain if the Clann Somhairle are also descendants in some manner, through one or another of the above dynasts, of the House of Ivar, but this is commonly argued. A recent DNA study has shown that Somerled was of Norse descent in his male line.By testing the Y-DNA of males bearing the surnames MacDonald, MacDougall, MacAlister, and their variants it was found that a substantial proportion of men tested shared the same Y-DNA and a direct paternal ancestor. This distinct Y-chromosome R1a1 haplotype found in Scotland has been regarded as often showing Norse descent in the British Isles.According to the Clan Donald USA DNA Project about 22% of tested participants have this signature, most importantly including the chiefs,but despite the sensational claims it remains clear that Somerled himself was of paternal Norse ancestry. The MacDonalds had always supported Norway. However, this alliance broke when the Norwegians were defeated at the Battle of Largs in 1263 by Scottish forces. Norway's King Haakon was defeated and his fleet was wrecked by the skilled manoeuvres of King Alexander III of Scotland and the Clan MacDougall.The clan takes its name 'Donald' from Donald who was the grandson of Somerled who lived until 1269. In 1947, the Lord Lyon King of Arms granted the undifferenced arms of Macdonald of Macdonald to Alexander Godfrey Macdonald, 7th Lord Macdonald, making him the first High Chief of Clan Donald. After his death in 1970, he was succeeded by his son Godfrey James Macdonald of Macdonald, 8th Lord Macdonald, who is the current high chief of Clan Donald.
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The Song of Amairgin by Lisa Gerrard (it is about Royalty in Ireland) beautiful!

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The Beautiful Song,"Amergins Invocation" meaning...

Amergin Glúingel ("white knees") or Glúnmar ("big knee") is a druid, bard and judge for the Milesians in Irish history. He was appointed Chief Ollam of Ireland by his two brothers Heremon and Eber the kings of Ireland. A number of poems attributed to Amergin are part of the Milesian history.
One of the three sons of Míl Espáine that survived out of seven that drowned off the coast of Ireland, he took part along with his brothers Eremon and Eber in the Milesian conquest of Ireland from the Tuatha Dé Danann, in revenge for their great-uncle Íth, who had been treacherously killed by the three kings of the Tuatha Dé, Mac Cuill, Mac Cecht and Mac Gréine. They landed at the estuary of Inber Scéne, named after Amergin's wife Scéne, who had died at sea. Ériu is the origin of the modern name Éire, while Banba and Fódla are used as poetic names for Ireland, much as Albannia is for Scotland.
The Milesians had to win the island by engaging in battle with the tribes, their druids and warriors. Amergin acted as an impartial judge for the parties, setting the rules of engagement. The Milesians agreed to leave the island and retreat a short distance back into the ocean beyond the ninth wave. Upon a signal, they moved toward the beach, but the druids of the Dé Danann raised a magical storm to keep them from reaching land and the boat over turned drowning four of their brothers and their mother Scota. Amergin sang an invocation calling upon the spirit of Ireland that has come to be known as The Song of Amergin, and he and his two brothers Heremon and Eber were able to part the storm and swim safely to land. There were heavy losses on all sides, with more than one major battle, but the Milesians carried the day. The three tribes of the Tuatha Dé Danann were each killed in single combat by three of the surviving sons of Míl, Eber Finn, Éremón and Amergin.
Amergin then divided the land between his two brothers, Eber taking the southern half of Ireland, Eremon the north. Within the year Éremón defeated Éber in battle and gained the kingship of the whole island, and two years later killed Amergin in another battle became Ard Ri King of all Ireland.
Some of the early medieval Welsh poems on attributed to the 6th century poet Taliesin in the Book of Taliesin have similarities to those attributed to Amergin.

Also spelled Amairgin, Amorgen, Aimhirghin
  1. Lebor Gabála Érenn §65-95
  2. Maighréad C. Ní Dobs, "Tochomlad mac Miledh a hEspain i nErind: no Cath Tailten?" Études Celtiques v.II, Paris: Librairie E. Droz, 1937
  3. Geoffrey Keating, Foas Feasa ar Éirinn 1.21, 22,
  4. Annals of the Four Masters M3500-3503
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The Beautiful Song,"Amergins Invocation" translation...

Amergin’s Invocation Of Ireland

I request the land of Ireland (to come forth)

coursed is the wild sea

wild the crying mountains

crying the generous woods

generous in showers (rain/waterfalls)

showers lakes and vast pools

vast pools hosts of well-springs

well-springs of tribes in assembly

assembly of Kings of Tara

Tara host of tribes

tribes of the Sons of Mil

Mil of boats and ships

ships come to Ireland

Ireland high terribly blue

an incantation on the (same) wind

(which was the) wind empty of Bres

Bres of an empty cup

Ireland be mighty

Eremon at the beginning and the end

Amergin, Eber requested

(now it is) We request the land of Ireland!

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