Royal House of Georgia

[Erivam]

Illa II, Prince David

http://www.czipm.org/Grafika/Foto/patr-bagr.jpg

[Benjamin]

David Bagrationi: I would like my child to be Georgian in heart and soul
19 Jan 2008

On 8 February 2009 the Royal wedding of H.R.H. Davit Bagrationi Mukhran Batonishvili and H.R.H. Anna Bagrationi-Gruzinsky Batonishvili will be celebrated at Holy Trinity Cathedral of Tbilisi by H.H. Catholicos-Patriarch Illa II. The President of Georgia will attend the ceremony.

The wedding service will begin at 4 P.M. Afterwards a cocktail party and dinner gala will take place in a building near the Cathedral.

Rest of article: The Georgian Times

[principessa]

Will the wedding be attended by European Royals?

[Regina]

They are all invited Can't wait to see who will be present or not.

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by Regina

They are all invited Can't wait to see who will be present or not.

I can't imagine they will all send a high representation though, if they send anything at all. I don't expect the European governments will allow a crownprince to go there at the moment f.e.. That the president sends invitations is understandable though, considering Georgia's position at the moment they can use any Western gesture of support, esp. the president since his reputation has gone down the drain (his Dutch wife Sandra Roelofs didn't appear in the press here anymore either).

[Al_bina]

You are correct. Given Mr. Saakashvili's odd performances, European governments will be hesitant to send Crown Princely couples as country representatives. Diplomats will be enough to save the face. As I have mentioned earlier, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna is in a really awkward situation. On one side, she is a relative of some kind. On the other, (1) Russia, where Grand Duchess has been laying claim to the throne, has got strained relationships with Georgia; and (2)she fully supported Russian government during the operation in August 2008. That makes me wonder whether she is going to attend or just send some else to represent the Russian Imperial House. It appears to me that this union may be viewed as a necessity to unite two branches of the Georgian Royal family that stems from a favourable opportunity to restore the monarchy in Georgia. At the same time, I am not against this arranged marriage and hope that it will works out to the benefit of the parties concerned and usual Georgians.

[reginalix]

Very very interesting dynasty. What a pity it's not a love marriage ! I can't believe the Church will bless this because only love is a God favor. But Georgian Catholic Orthodox Church is a very strict, proud and political Church, don't take part in ecumenical Assembly and wants Great Georgia's ressurection (when Georgian Kingdom ruled over Caucasus and had conquests and "colonies").

I would like to know who and where are the heirs of Ossetian/ Alan Kings (many were famous, King Respendial, Mary of Ossetia daughter-in-law of Grand-Prince of Kiev ,Princess Borena married with Georgian Prince, King David Soslan) and Abkhazian Kings Аҧсны? And the heirs of ancient and modern Armenian dynasties?

[amedea]

but who said they don't love themselves? we are not sure of that, isn'it?

[Al_bina]

I would say that amedea is correct noting that we do not know if the couple in question has got any romantic feelings for each other. At the same time, considering all information about Georgia and its current state of affairs, it might be assumed that the two branches of the Bagrations decided to unite because this marriage raises chances of the restoration. However, the situations is not as simple as it seems.

There appears to be a family dispute among members of the Georgian royal family. Prince David, whose engagement to Princess Anna Bagration was recently, is considered by many to be the legitimate heir to the Georgian throne. Anna's father, Nuzgar, is the senior male line descendant from Georgia's last king. Thus, this marriage unites both lines, thus clearing up confusion over the line of succession. But does it. ...

Royal Musings: Bagration dispute It remains to be seen whether the restoration takes place in Georgia in the end.
I do not think that an arranged marriage is totally a bad thing. Arranged marriages are widely accepted in the Caucasus (Caucasus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and are nothing exceptional in among royalty/nobility. Futhermore, marriages based on the mutual understanding, respect, and realitisc expectations have got a fair chance to last ... in personal opinion.

[reginalix]

I hope for love or simple and real affection. But in press the family and fiancé said the reason to be delighted for them and of course for georgian people (they asked?) it's the next royal unity.
No ITW about love, bride's personnal qualities....Never. No David but the Crown Prince, no Anna but the Crown Princess, no future babies but future heirs. Strange. No feelings but ambitions.
I don't believe it's shyness. It seems to me David is a good and grandiloquent orator.

[Al_bina]

Given your words, it might be noted that my assumptions about the nature of this marriage are accurate.

[amedea]

yes, if he said that it means that we know: it's not love :)
and Al bina knowledge of caucasus culture explain why they even don't try to deny, as would be normal in europe
the hope so, is they will try and learn to love themselves
best wishes

[Marcus]

I think it is very very sad thay we are speaking about an arranged marriage in an European country in the 21st Century.

[reginalix]

Originally Posted by Marcus

I think it is very very sad thay we are speaking about an arranged marriage in an European country in the 21st Century.

Try to console oneself. It's a semi European 'transcontinental" country near eastern Turkey, Iran ..., with no indo-european language, archaic customs ...
Or refer to ECtHR or Court of Strasbourg.

And maybe the lady is more ambitious than romantic and loving.

[Regina]

Originally Posted by reginalix

And maybe the lady is more ambitious than romantic and loving.

Or maybe the lady is ambitious AND romantic and loving.

I will only try to guess their feelings for each other after the wedding, when pictures and video of the couple will be available. Before that, I prefer to see this wedding as a combination of love and interest, not only interest. I really believe that most of the royal weddings of this XXI century were combinations of love and power... so nothing new here.

[Marcus]

Are there any photos of the bride? And for those living in Georgia, are there any kind of attention from the media to this wedding? I mean, like those other Royal Weddings in Spain, Denmark etc, or the whole thing is going unnoticed, except for us royal geeks here in the Royal Forums... Can we expect crowds waving the couple outside the cathedral? I am kind of curious on that matter.

[Al_bina]

I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to find a single photo of the bride. If fortunate, we shall see photos of the wedding ceremony. I am sure the Georgian government will find some amount of obligatory well-wishers to sugar-coat the whole situation. It is the wedding after all. When compared to other European royal houses, the Georgian royal house tends to attract less attention.

[selminha]

I wait that it has left the list the guests?

[Benjamin]

Does the wedding ceremony signal Georgia’s return to a monarchy?
21 Jan 2009

On 8th February, the Remembrance Day for the great Tsar David the Builder from the House of Bagrationi, who unified Georgia in the 12th century, members of two royal dynasties will be getting married - Prince David Bagrationi-Mukhraneli and Anna Mukhraneli. Where exactly the ceremony will take place - in Tbilisi or in the ancient capital Mtskheta - has not yet been decided...

Full article: Georgia Times

[Erivam]

Boda de S.A.R. Davit Bagrationi Mukhran con S.A.R. Anna Bagrationi Gruzinsky.
El 8 de Febrero de 2009 se celebrará en la Catedral de Sameba, Tbilisi, Georgia el enlace matrimonial entre SS.AA.RR. Davit Bagrationi Mukhran y Anna Bagrationi Gruzinsky. La ceremonia será oficiada por el Patriarca de la Iglesia Ortodoxa Georgiana S.S. Catholicos Illa II.

Invitación Oficial enlace matrimonial.

Comunicado Oficial:

SS.AA.RR. no desean recibir regalos con motivo de su enlace matrimonial. Sin embargo, todo el que quiera colaborar con el pueblo georgiano, puede hacerlo a través de las embajadas de Georgia, destinándolo a la ayuda Humanitaria y Asistencial que desarrollan las ONG y Fundaciones que colaboran con los refugiados de las provincias de Abjasia y Osetia.
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Wedding S.A.R. Davit Bagrationi Mukhran with S.A.R. Anna Bagrationi Gruzinsky.

On February 8, 2009 will be held at the Cathedral of Sameba, Tbilisi, Georgia the link between marital SS.AA.RR. Davit Bagrationi and Mukhran Anna Bagrationi Gruzinsky. The ceremony will be officiated by the Patriarch of the Georgian Orthodox Church SS Illa II Catholicos.

Communiqué:

SS.AA.RR. do not want to receive gifts on his matrimonial connection. However, anyone who wants to work with the Georgian people, it can be done through the embassies of Georgia for humanitarian aid and assistance to develop the foundations and NGOs working with refugees from the provinces of Abkhazia and Ossetia.

Orden del Águila de Georgia