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Old 01-08-2009, 03:16 PM
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Prince Bagration of Georgian David Mukhrani will marry in February with Anna Bagration-Gruzinsky


Thursday, January 08, 2009

David Prince Bagration of Mukhrani, Chief of the Royal House of Georgia from January 16, 2008, marriage contract next February 8 in the Georgian capital Tbilisi, with Princess Anna Bagration-Gruzinsky. With this link will join the two main houses of reigning Georgia: Mukhrani the descendants of Prince Bakar of Georgia, and Gruzinsky, Bagrat descendants of the prince, son of Jorge XII (1746-1800), the last king of Georgia. David was born in Spain and is the third child of a marriage made up of Mukhrani Jorge Bagration, second cousin of King Juan Carlos and 12-time champion Spain Rally, and Zornoza Mercedes Ponce de Leon.
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David Prince Bagration of Mukhrani, Chief of the Royal House of Georgia from January 16, 2008, marriage contract next February 8 in the Georgian capital Tbilisi, with Princess Anna Bagration-Gruzinsky.
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David was born in Spain but have Georgian citizenship since 2004 - and is the third child of the marriage made by Jorge Bagration of Mukhrani, second cousin of King Juan Carlos and 12-time champion Spain Rally, and his first wife Mercedes Ponce Zornoza Leon.
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Anna Bagration-Gruzinsky, born in 1976, is the eldest daughter of Prince and Leila Kipiani and director of the Theater Arts Tbilisi Nugzar Bagration-Gruzinsky, son of a prince Petre Bagration-Gruzinsky.
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With this link will join the two main houses of reigning Georgia: Mukhrani the descendants of Prince Bakar of Georgia, and Gruzinsky, Bagrat descendants of the prince, son of Jorge XII (1746-1800), the last king of Georgia.
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The Georgian monarchy was abolished by Russia for just over 200 years, but lately, more so after the secessionist attempts of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, is taking its restoration in the family Bagration.

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Old 01-08-2009, 03:19 PM
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thanks...That is going to be some wedding.
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Old 01-08-2009, 03:26 PM
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Marriage will end the dynastic question in Georgia, the princess is heir to one of the suitors to the throne Georgian. The possibility of restoring the monarchy in Georgia is very large, 10 opposition political parties to advocate the restoration of the monarchy. With the marriage increases further.
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Old 01-09-2009, 03:34 AM
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Is the princess actually the heir or does she have brothers/ male cousins who can start another claim later? The Bragation genealogy is difficult to ind on the internet.
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Princess Anna has a sister, Princess Maya.

Her father has 2 sisters, Princess Dali, who married firstly Bruno Babunashvili and secondly Zurab Kurashvili, and Princess Mzevinar, her grandfather had an older brother, Prince Konstantin, who died young so it would have to be another generation back.

Her great-grandfather has an older brother, Prince Ilia, who died without issue. and 2 younger brothers, Prince Giorgi, who died without issue, and Prince Mikeli, who married Princess Sofia Sumbatashvili and has 2 sons, Prince Alexander, who married Princess Mariam Tumanishvili, and Prince Elizbar, and 2 daughters, Princess Elene, who married Prince Iesse Tsereteli, and Princess Nino, who married firstly (and divorced) Prince Peter Mkheidze and married secondly Vano Gvelesiani.

Al 4 children of Prince Mikeli died. No other issue is named.

Ofcourse you can look further then the great-grandfather of Princess Anna.

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Old 01-09-2009, 07:34 AM
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Now ho could I overlook the online Gotha? Thanks Robijn! It seems that part of the family (line VI) does not have any young male members indeed, so that solves the matter.

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Demoralised Georgia may renew itself by restoring its monarchy


As war-torn Georgia struggles to assert its sovereignty and redefine its identity, there is now a growing possibility that the country may have recourse to an option that has been simmering on the political agenda for the past 18 years by restoring its ancient monarchy and recalling the head of the Bagration dynasty to the throne.


Would Georgian identity benefit from a restoration of the monarchy?

Even before the Russian invasion this proposal was being canvassed within the past year. The Bagration dynasty is more than a thousand years old and was forcibly removed from the Georgian throne by Russia in 1801. The Georgian people never consented to the abolition of either their monarchy or their national sovereignty.

When the Soviet Union collapsed and Georgia declared independence, one of the earliest proposals for a constitutional settlement was the restoration of the monarchy. In 1991 the Georgian government and parliament officially recognised Prince George Bagration-Moukhranski, formerly well known as a racing driver, as head of the royal house. The fact that they took the trouble to do so demonstrates that the monarchy was a substantive political issue.

During the civil war and general turbulence that ensued, the monarchic question was sidelined, though it never completely disappeared. Opinion polls showed wildly fluctuating public opinion on a restoration, varying from 2 per cent support to 45 per cent (with only 29 per cent opposed). A succession of authoritarian presidents - Gamsakhurdia, Shevardnadze and Saakashvili - provoked a backlash against the power of the presidency. Lately the opposition parties have adopted the slogan "Georgia without a President."

Democrats have been talking about monarchy on the British model and citing the example of King Juan Carlos in Spain to prove the practicability of a restoration. What brought things back to the boil, however, was a sermon preached by the head of the Georgian Orthodox Church, the Patriarch Illia II, on October 7 last year, in which he publicly called for the restoration of the monarchy as the "desirable dream of the Georgian people". That led to the question being debated in parliament.

Now the situation has been radically transformed. Mikheil Saakashvili is badly discredited. The nation may, for the moment, be rallying around him as a symbol of national identity, but that effect will not last long. His was the only political party in Georgia unambiguously opposed to a restoration, but it has little credibility now. In a time of defeat and suffering people are turning to the church, which is royalist.

Georgia has no military options against Russia, its economy has been devastated, it lacks diplomatic leverage. Yet there is one politico-cultural gesture it could make to renew itself, to reassert its national identity, to unite around a non-partisan symbol, and that is to restore its monarchy. The fact that it was originally abolished by Russia would give added meaning to this act of constitutional renewal.

The acknowledged head of the royal house, the de jure King George XIV, died earlier this year; but his 32-year-old son Prince Davit could be called to the throne of his ancestors as David XIII. This could be the holistic reinvention of itself this unfortunate nation needs.

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Many of the defenders of the monarchy not believe the polls, was made only by the Internet, the majority of the population has no access to this medium.

Talk that the percentage is very high, especially after the support of the Patriarch
Orthodox Church, Illia II.
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Anyone know the status of restoration talks? I've done periodic searches, but I only come up with older stories. Thanks.
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BODA REAL EN GEORGIA: EL PRÍNCIPE DAVID DE BAGRATION, NACIDO EN MADRID, SE CASA CON LA PRINCESA ANNA BAGRATIONI

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I have a question to the discussion about restoring the monarchy: How serious are the reporting magazines? How believable are the reports?
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A new reigning royal house? That would be wonderful! I am very interesting to watch pictures of thos royal wedding. I wonder how many Royal will attend the event.
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Old 01-13-2009, 05:47 PM
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BODA REAL EN GEORGIA: EL PRÍNCIPE DAVID DE BAGRATION, NACIDO EN MADRID, SE CASA CON LA PRINCESA ANNA BAGRATIONI

El novio -aspirante al trono de Georgia- es hijo del príncipe Jorge, que fue trece veces campeón de España de rallyes, y la española Mercedes Zornoza y Ponce de León

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Georgia se prepara para celebrar la primera boda real en doscientos años. La catedral Sameba, en Tbilisi, Georgia, acogerá el próximo ocho de febrero el enlace de S.A.R la princesa Anna Bagrationi Gruzinksy y S.A.R Davit Bagrationi Mukhran, un príncipe también español ya que nació en Madrid en 1976, donde se instaló la Familia Real georgiana durante el exilio.

El Príncipe tiene 32 años y es hijo de Jorge de Bagration al que muchos recordarán ya que fue trece veces campeón de España de rallyes además de piloto de Fórmula 1. Jorge de Bagration, anterior jefe de la Casa Real de Georgia, falleció el pasado 16 de enero heredando su hijo David los derechos dinásticos. La madre del que podría ser futuro Rey de Georgia es también española, Mercedes Zornoza y Ponce de León. David es el tercer hijo del matrimonio y en el 2004 adoptó la nacionalidad georgiana dando un paso más en su objetivo de volver a instaurar la monarquía en Georgia.

Una restauración que podría no estar lejana ya que el Parlamento se pronunció a favor de la monarquía en octubre del 2007 con 102 de los 108 posibles votos, hubo cuatro abstenciones y dos votos en contra. Desde la jefatura de la Casa Real de Georgia que con la boda del príncipe David y la princesa Ana “se acaba definitivamente con cualquier posibilidad de pleito dinástico en Georgia ya que la prometida es una princesa de la Casa Real Bagrationi-Grusinksy, rama de la familia Bagrationi que siempre reinvindicó un hipotético derecho a la Jefatura de la Casa Real de Georgia”. Anna Bagration-Gruzinksy, de la misma edad que su prometidos, es la mayor de las dos hijas del príncipe Nugzar Bagration Gruzinsky y Leila Kipiani. El príncipe Nugzar es el actual director del Teatro de las Artes de Tbilisi.

Al enlace están invitados representantes de todas las Casas Reales, reinantes y no reinantes. Las invitaciones oficiales a todas las Casas Reales Reinantes serán enviadas desde Georgia y las está escribiendo a mano el presidente del país, Mijeíl Saakashvili. El príncipe Jorge de Bragation, padre del príncipe David, asistió a la boda de los Príncipes de Asturias en calidad de jefe de la Casa Real de Georgia. Por su parte, desde los Emiratos Árabes no sólo han confirmado su asistencia al enlace, además han ofrecido a hacer frente a los gastos de este enlace. Las Órdenes de Caballería y Corporaciones Nobiliarias de todo el mundo además de los títulos nobiliarios con Grandeza de España están igualmente convidados. El presidente de Georgia, asimismo, acudirá con todos los miembros de su gabinete. La boda será retransmitida por la Televisión Oficial Georgiana.

La celebración tendrá lugar, como decíamos, el ocho de febrero en la catedral de Sameba, la capital del país, y será oficiada por el Patriarca de la Iglesia Ortodoxa Georgiana S.S. Católicos Illa II a las 16:00h. La invitación especifica frac para los caballeros y traje largo para las damas. Una vez concluida la ceremonia religiosa, los contrayentes celebrarán en un hotel cercano a la Catedral su enlace con sus familiares y demás invitados.


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Al enlace están invitados representantes de todas las Casas Reales, reinantes y no reinantes. Las invitaciones oficiales a todas las Casas Reales Reinantes serán enviadas desde Georgia y las está escribiendo a mano el presidente del país, Mijeíl Saakashvili. El príncipe Jorge de Bragation, padre del príncipe David, asistió a la boda de los Príncipes de Asturias en calidad de jefe de la Casa Real de Georgia. Por su parte, desde los Emiratos Árabes no sólo han confirmado su asistencia al enlace, además han ofrecido a hacer frente a los gastos de este enlace. Las Órdenes de Caballería y Corporaciones Nobiliarias de todo el mundo además de los títulos nobiliarios con Grandeza de España están igualmente convidados. El presidente de Georgia, asimismo, acudirá con todos los miembros de su gabinete. La boda será retransmitida por la Televisión Oficial Georgiana.
Thank you Erivam for the article you posted

This part of the article says that representants of all (reigning and non-reigning) Royal Houses were invited to the wedding. The President of the country, Mijeíl Saakashvili, wrote the invitations himself.
All the members of the Government will be present.

United Arab Emirates representants won't only be present as they offered to cover all the costs of the royal wedding.

Wow, I really want to watch this wedding!
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A restaurant that might not be far as Parliament was in favor of the monarchy in October 2007 with 102 of 108 possible votes, there were four abstentions and two votes against. Since the head of the Royal House of Georgia with the wedding of Prince David and Princess Anne "definitively ends any possibility of a dynastic dispute in Georgia since the bride is a princess of the Royal House Bagrationi-Grusinksy branch of the Bagrationi family reinvindicó always a hypothetical right to the Chief of the Royal House of Georgia. " Anna Bagration-Gruzinksy of the same age as his bride, is the largest of the two daughters of Prince Nugzar Bagration Gruzinsky and Leila Kipiani. Nugzar prince is the current director of the Theater Arts in Tbilisi.

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It remains to be seen whether the restoration in Georgia will take place. In light of the current state of affairs within Georgia(quarreling politicians and controversial President), it seems appropriate to bring back the monarchy as viable means to unite the country and rectify the country's image in the international arena. However, power thirst of some politicians may hinder the process.
It would be interesting to have a look at wedding photos. Given the rocky relationships between the Russian Federation and Georgia, I wonder whether Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna will attend the event.
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Re: Information about the Cathedral where the wedding shall take place next month.

Tbilisi Sameba Cathedral - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Here is the picture of the very imposing Sameba Cathedral in Tbilisi.

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A beautiful Cathedral! Another picture of the tallest church in the Caucasus, at night. Simply amazing...
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