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Old 05-28-2008, 04:16 PM
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The palace is no longer available to the former King, which will now be turned into a museum for the people. I'm on the fence about this. On the one hand, this situation may be the best for the country. On the other hand, Communism (Maoists) isn't the greatest system in the world either.
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Old 05-28-2008, 06:54 PM
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They have not been removed since Gyanendra was seen driving himself and his wife. The probably went to the private residence in Khatmandu. Hopefully the rest of the family is all packed and ready to go. They need to leave Nepal immediately.
I agree that the family should leave for now. I just have a "feeling" that the situation could become dangerous for them.
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Old 05-28-2008, 09:21 PM
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I do agree that they need to go ahead and leave; I read he is worth a great deal of money personally so they should be fine.
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Old 05-28-2008, 09:41 PM
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Wow, I never thought a monarchy would be abolished during my lifetime.
But it's for the good of Nepal that their monarchy is done away with.
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Old 05-29-2008, 01:34 AM
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According to the latest reports the Maoists have warned that it could (and most likely will) forcefully throw King Gyanendra out of his palace only if he refuses to leave voluntarily. Furthermore, all three parties in the new government have agreed that all of the king's privileges would be cut off, including his allowances as well as his official security. Second, the former King will be able to continue his business ventures. Whether the ex-king decides to stay in Nepal remains to be seen though it would be in his best interest to leave his country forever for his own safety.

You can read more of here. A profile about the ex-king and another very interesting article.
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:20 AM
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I'm very very sad about the situation in Nepal. Its the last hindu monarchy to go. I wish crown prince deependra hadn't killed his family(we're not quite sure about that either) but whatever has happened wouldn't have happened with king birendra alive. I just feel bad for the family's trouble (though GOD knows they've contributed) the crown princess is so young and her children barely of age.
There was some talk about her and the crown prince and the family returning to India to live with his wife's family but I don't think thats a good option. They'll never be away from nepal and I have a suspicion Prachanda won't leave the royal family alone. Nepal has changed beyond recognition since the massacre.Its very sad indeed
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:01 AM
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The Moaists wanted the monarchy ended for more than a decade. I am sure that it would have never happened if King Biendra and Queen Aishwayra were still there; they were beloved. The deposed king was nothing more than a despot (who had a big hand in the Palace massacare if some sources are to be believed). He and his son Paras needed to go- no if, whens and buts about it.

BTW, should'nt this thread be moved into the non-reigning houses subcategory?
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Old 05-29-2008, 03:20 PM
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I know the communists won big time in the recent elections, but I can't help but feel that the people are going to regret their decision in the years to come when the communists start to dig in politically. I just have this feeling.
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Old 05-29-2008, 03:36 PM
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I believe you are right, AdmiralSteven. On the other hand, the former king wasn't exactly the most honorable nor were the people of Nepal his first priority. Furhermore, his son, the Crown Prince, wasn't exactly loved by the people either.

Will Nepal be better off? Will this tiny country, which is one of the poorest on Earth, finally have a chance? Who knows what the future holds, but I do have hope for the people.
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Old 05-29-2008, 03:51 PM
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I believe you are right, AdmiralSteven. On the other hand, the former king wasn't exactly the most honorable nor were the people of Nepal his first priority. Furhermore, his son, the Crown Prince, wasn't exactly loved by the people either.

Will Nepal be better off? Will this tiny country, which is one of the poorest on Earth, finally have a chance? Who knows what the future holds, but I do have hope for the people.
I believe that we will ultimately see that the communists will not have the people of Napal as their first priority as well, and by then it will be to late as they will have gained the political power they need to stay in power.
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:40 AM
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Hi guys! First post!

As a new member I dont want to ruffle feathers but I'd like to point out that almost no nation has ever been "better off" after abolishing their monarchy.

Take for example, Iran. The shah was certainly a despot but he was nothing compared to the islamic republic to come. And France as well, after King Louis was killed the "reign of terror" began. Also remember the russian revolution that murdered the czar and his family and the millions that died thanks to Lenin and Stalin. Actually one can name almost every nation that abolished their monarchs and the tragedies that followed from Germany to England despots that would follow far overshadowed the sometimes inept ruling of their rightful monarch.

I guess we will see how kind and gentle Maoists that carry on decade long terrorist campaigns can be... Good luck Nepal. If any country deserves and needs it, it would be you.

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Old 05-30-2008, 06:10 AM
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Wow, I never thought a monarchy would be abolished during my lifetime.
But it's for the good of Nepal that their monarchy is done away with.

How can it be for the good of Nepal? The Maoists claim the monarchy is undemocratic yet abolish it without any referendum allowing the people to have their say. There is not, and never has been, a democratic communist society.
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Well anything's better than Gyanendra.
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Old 05-30-2008, 10:13 AM
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Anyone know what the royal family future plan?
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As China turns economically capitalist, Nepal now has a government dominated by those with a discredited Maoist ideology. Hardly a step into the modern era.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:29 AM
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Maoism didn't do the Chinese much harm though. Economically I mean. Maybe Nepal needs a dose of maoism and everyone being equal to bring them furthur on than they were. Which was what? 1800 or so?
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:09 PM
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Well,, BeatrixFan, you have completely ignored -or not known in the first place-all of the facts of history. Maoism was and is an unmitigated disaster for China. It shattered the economy and kept an immensely tallented people in a concrete body cast for decades. Its heirs, the current inept leadership, propoganda aside, has also proven monumentally inept in really dealing with a time bonb that may well explode with catastrophic results for the whole world. Ever heard of the "Great Leap Forward" and fifty million Chinese citizens starving to death. And how about the cultural revolution with its total disruption of everything, including of course, the economy. Then there is the minor fact of 50-100 MILLION deaths attributable to this madness, not to mention all the horror, torture, "re-education", prison, and the suffering and exile and all the rest of it for those still living. Talk to some of the Chinese who got out of China and then make the totally irresponsible statement lacking in understanding and compassion you have just made. Go read "Bones of the Master" if you want to get a feel of what it was to live in those times and what the Communists did to anybody who tried to live a life of religious devotion.

Nobody needs a dose of Maoism. That is nothing but blood, torture, prison, death and madness. And Nepal is a fragile and desperately poor country where a large portion of the population have been duped by those same fantasies and lies that have fooled so many. Maoism is a monstrous system that cannot be called an improvement on anything. The king was a man, a brutal man who was totally out of place but the situation in Nepal today, if history is any indication, is the beginning of a nightmare and human tragedy of appalling proportions. Go read a good history of the French Revolution and Louis XVI, another king, but a decent man, who was in way over his head in a situation he never understood nor could control.
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Well said, sir.
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:30 PM
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Nepal panel seeks royal properties and assets
30 May 2008
A government panel began collecting details of assets and properties of Nepal's deposed King Gyanendra on Friday, two days after the Himalayan nation's monarchy was abolished, a top minister said...
Rest of article: Reuters India

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Royal confusion over Gyanendra's new residence
30 May 2008
...Palace sources indicated the Gyanendra has not vacated. In fact, his mother, wife of the late King Mahendra, is still in the palace and reportedly firm that she will not leave...
Rest of article: CNN-IBN
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:11 AM
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This is getting interesting. Mr. Gyanendra and Mrs. Komal Shadev are no longer entitled to live in the Royal Palace. Does anyone know if Paras Shahdev lives in a state owned property or is it private? I don't understand why they are not leaving Nepal; it is more than evident that they are no longer welcome there.
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