The Royal Forums Coat of Arms

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Reigning Houses > Royal House of Sweden > King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia

Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #21  
Old 06-13-2007, 12:59 PM
Marengo's Avatar
Administrator
Royal Blogger, TRF Author
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 13,881
Thanks a lot Yennie. Did Walter sr. stay in Brazil untill his death? And does anybody know a website with some more information about Queen Sylvia's anscestors, her grandparents to start with for example?

So the Alice went from the Copacabana to the black forest, that must have been quite a change!
__________________

__________________
TRF Rules and FAQ
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 06-13-2007, 01:51 PM
RachelD's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: My Home, United States
Posts: 699
Ok. This is what I found. It's from Wikipedia, so I don't know how accurate this info is, but it's something.

Queen Silvia's Father:

Walther Sommerlath - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I couldn't find any info on the Queen's Mother...
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 06-13-2007, 02:08 PM
Stefan's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Esslingen, Germany
Posts: 2,265
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yennie
Walter and Alice met at Copacabana around the year of 1925. They were very young, Alice was only 17 I belive. Walther was a bussness man who had a factory in Germany during WWII. During the war his factory made some war-related material so he did not serve and lived with his family in Heidelberg. I think his factory in Berlin was bombed and possibly destroyed.
After the war the Sommelath family left Germany for Brazil, where Sylvia was born, and they lived in a villa in Sao Paolo and Walther worked for the swedish company Uddeholm
Silvia was born in Heidelberg, Germany not in Brazil.
__________________
Stefan

Royal Travel and Events

Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 06-13-2007, 02:10 PM
Stefan's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Esslingen, Germany
Posts: 2,265
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marengo
Thanks a lot Yennie. Did Walter sr. stay in Brazil untill his death? And does anybody know a website with some more information about Queen Sylvia's anscestors, her grandparents to start with for example?

So the Alice went from the Copacabana to the black forest, that must have been quite a change!
The returned to Germany around 1950 i think because Silvia went to School in Germany. Both her parents lived in heidelberg in their later years where Walter Sommerlath also died.
__________________
Stefan

Royal Travel and Events

Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06-13-2007, 02:37 PM
Yennie's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Skåne, Sweden
Posts: 2,601
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefan
Silvia was born in Heidelberg, Germany not in Brazil.
sorry, mixed up the names It should be where ALICE was born
__________________
Life is like a box of chocolates... you'll never know what you're gonna get
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 06-13-2007, 02:41 PM
Yennie's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Skåne, Sweden
Posts: 2,601
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marengo
Thanks a lot Yennie. Did Walter sr. stay in Brazil untill his death? And does anybody know a website with some more information about Queen Sylvia's anscestors, her grandparents to start with for example?

So the Alice went from the Copacabana to the black forest, that must have been quite a change!
No the Sommerlath family returned to Europe and Germany. Walther Sr lived in Heidelberg until his death in 1990. His wife Alice moved to Sweden to live with her daughter in mid-90s and had an apartment at Drottningholm. She died at Drottningholm in march 1997
__________________
Life is like a box of chocolates... you'll never know what you're gonna get
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 06-14-2007, 05:11 AM
Marengo's Avatar
Administrator
Royal Blogger, TRF Author
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 13,881
Thanks everybody for the information. The wikipedia link was interesting too, especially as it described that Walter did become a member of the Nazi party, and stayed one untill it was abolished. I believe it was rather common to become a member though, especially for those who were in business. Or did Walter sr. become a member out of idealistic principles?
Did his wife get a German passport btw or did she stick to the Brazilian nationality?

And another question, did they stay in Germany, move to Brazil..etc?
__________________
TRF Rules and FAQ
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 06-14-2007, 05:59 AM
Jo of Palatine's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Munich, Germany
Posts: 3,325
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marengo
Thanks a lot Yennie. Did Walter sr. stay in Brazil untill his death? And does anybody know a website with some more information about Queen Sylvia's anscestors, her grandparents to start with for example?

So the Alice went from the Copacabana to the black forest, that must have been quite a change!
Heidelberg is not at the border of the Schwarzwald ("Black Forest") but of the Odenwald (Old germanic "Odin's Forest", where Siegfried of the Nibelung Saga was killed by Hagen). South of the Odenwald comes a picturesque landscape with softly rolling hills called the "Kraichgau" and only south of Kraichgau the first hills of the Black Forest start, leading down to the Swiss Border.

Heidelberg is at the end of a road called "Bergstraße", that starts in the Frankfort area and is famous for it's warm and sunny climate and the abundance of fruit and wine which is grown here. So it was not that much of a change in climate as Heidelberg nights are famous for being "tropic" and very hot in summer - one has to get used to them when studying in Heidelberg...
__________________
'To dare is to lose one step for but a moment, not to dare is to lose oneself forever' - Crown Prince Frederick of Denmark in a letter to Miss Mary Donaldson as stated by them on their official engagement interview.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 12-05-2007, 01:26 PM
Silvia❦CarlGustaf's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: somewhere in the nowhere, Germany
Posts: 246
Hey! I've a question!
The mother of queen silvia was called Alice de Toledo! Is the family of the queens mother from spain?
There is a town or village called Toledo!

Does someone now more about this?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 12-05-2007, 05:39 PM
Hanna Regina's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Umeå, Sweden
Posts: 138
Queen Silvia's mother was Brazilian, there are several posts above about the Sommerlath family living in Brazil for some years.
__________________
The best place for royal news, history, information and pictures, they call it The Royal Forums...
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 12-06-2007, 12:11 PM
Silvia❦CarlGustaf's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: somewhere in the nowhere, Germany
Posts: 246
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanna Regina View Post
Queen Silvia's mother was Brazilian, there are several posts above about the Sommerlath family living in Brazil for some years.
Yes, I know, but maybe the relatives of the queens mother came from spain!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 12-06-2007, 08:24 PM
Gentry
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Kivarnath, Antarctica
Posts: 59
Here's more on the Queen's family:

Alice Soares de Toledo

Ancestry of Queen Silvia of Sweden (b. 1943)

All of her mother's family (even her great-grandparents) were born in Brazil.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 12-07-2007, 05:05 AM
Boris's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Los Angeles, United States
Posts: 2,202
Thanks a lot for the links, PrincessKoreen! Exhaustive information, very much appreciated.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 09-12-2008, 10:32 AM
Helen88's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bremen, Germany
Posts: 277
Patrick Sommerlath's girlfriend has twins

Patrick Sommerlath och Maline fick tvillingar - Svensk Damtidning

I didn't know Patrick still lived in Sweden. I only know he lived with the Royal Family when he was younger?
__________________
Whatever comes, she said, cannot alter one thing. If I am a princess in rags and tatters, I can be a princess inside. It would be easy to be a princess if I were dressed in cloth of gold, but it is a great deal more of a triumpf to be one all the time when no one knows it. (F.Hogdson Burnett)
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 09-12-2008, 03:13 PM
HMTLove23's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: bethlehem, United States
Posts: 445
can anyone translate the article?

how is he related to the queen??
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 09-12-2008, 03:24 PM
jinigirl's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Bayreuth, Germany
Posts: 308
Quote:
Originally Posted by HMTLove23 View Post
can anyone translate the article?

how is he related to the queen??
Patrick is the son of one of Queen Silvias brother, but I'm not sure of which
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 09-12-2008, 04:00 PM
magnik's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,681
Doesn't his girlfriend looks similar to Countesses of Bernadotte?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 10-03-2008, 01:17 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 8
Patrik sommerlath is wery nice boy i have wrote to him on Facebook. hi i som to silivias brother. his twins is wery nice i have se pictur on it on Patriks facebook.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 12-18-2008, 03:12 PM
Andy R's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dallas, United States
Posts: 661
I just had lunch with my Mom and she was telling me about her trip to Sweden last week. She had coffee with her friend who happens to be the Mother of Patrick's girlfriend Maline. She got to meet Maline and the twins and showed me some photos of them, they are VERY cute!
__________________
The Royal Forums rules and FAQ.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 03-26-2009, 12:22 PM
Josefine's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: , Sweden
Posts: 9,138
how many of her family live in sweden now i know one of her brothers sons live here
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
birth, family, queen silvia, silvia sommerlath, sommerlath


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Queen Silvia's Fashion and Style Part 2: December 2009 - January 2012 dazzling Archives 398 01-15-2012 02:58 AM
Queen Silvia's Education and Career iowabelle King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia 6 11-18-2011 01:23 AM
Queen Silvia's 60th Birthday Celebrations - December 2003 Yennie King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia 120 03-24-2011 05:37 AM
Queen Silvia's Official Visit to Colombia; November 5-9, 2007 LadyFinn King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia 20 12-02-2007 10:40 AM
Queen Silvia's Official Visit to Brazil; November 2003 Alexandria King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia 8 11-15-2004 01:47 PM




Additional Links
Popular Tags
abdication birth birthday bourbon-parma camilla chris o'neill crown prince frederik crown prince haakon crown princess letizia crown princess mary crown princess mette-marit crown princess victoria danish royals engagement fashion genealogy grand duchess maria teresa grand duke henri habsburg hereditary grand duchess stéphanie hereditary grand duke guillaume hohenzollern infanta elena king abdullah king abdullah ii king albert ii king carl xvi gustav king juan carlos king philippe king willem-alexander norway palace picture thread pom pregnancy prince constantijn prince felipe prince felix prince frederik prince henrik prince joachim prince laurent princess princess alexia (2005 -) princess annette princess ariane princess beatrix princess catharina-amalia princess charlene princess haya princess laurentien princess letizia princess mabel princess madeleine princess marie princess marilene princess mary princess maxima queen mathilde queen maxima queen rania queen silvia queen sofia royal russia sheikh state visit wedding willem-alexander william


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:34 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014
Jelsoft Enterprises

Royal News Delivered to your Email!

You can get the latest Royal News right in your inbox.

unsusbcribe at anytime with one click

Close [X]