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Old 06-13-2007, 12:59 PM
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Thanks a lot Yennie. Did Walter sr. stay in Brazil untill his death? And does anybody know a website with some more information about Queen Sylvia's anscestors, her grandparents to start with for example?

So the Alice went from the Copacabana to the black forest, that must have been quite a change!
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:51 PM
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Ok. This is what I found. It's from Wikipedia, so I don't know how accurate this info is, but it's something.

Queen Silvia's Father:

Walther Sommerlath - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I couldn't find any info on the Queen's Mother...
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:08 PM
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Walter and Alice met at Copacabana around the year of 1925. They were very young, Alice was only 17 I belive. Walther was a bussness man who had a factory in Germany during WWII. During the war his factory made some war-related material so he did not serve and lived with his family in Heidelberg. I think his factory in Berlin was bombed and possibly destroyed.
After the war the Sommelath family left Germany for Brazil, where Sylvia was born, and they lived in a villa in Sao Paolo and Walther worked for the swedish company Uddeholm
Silvia was born in Heidelberg, Germany not in Brazil.
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:10 PM
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Thanks a lot Yennie. Did Walter sr. stay in Brazil untill his death? And does anybody know a website with some more information about Queen Sylvia's anscestors, her grandparents to start with for example?

So the Alice went from the Copacabana to the black forest, that must have been quite a change!
The returned to Germany around 1950 i think because Silvia went to School in Germany. Both her parents lived in heidelberg in their later years where Walter Sommerlath also died.
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:37 PM
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Silvia was born in Heidelberg, Germany not in Brazil.
sorry, mixed up the names It should be where ALICE was born
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:41 PM
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Thanks a lot Yennie. Did Walter sr. stay in Brazil untill his death? And does anybody know a website with some more information about Queen Sylvia's anscestors, her grandparents to start with for example?

So the Alice went from the Copacabana to the black forest, that must have been quite a change!
No the Sommerlath family returned to Europe and Germany. Walther Sr lived in Heidelberg until his death in 1990. His wife Alice moved to Sweden to live with her daughter in mid-90s and had an apartment at Drottningholm. She died at Drottningholm in march 1997
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Old 06-14-2007, 05:11 AM
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Thanks everybody for the information. The wikipedia link was interesting too, especially as it described that Walter did become a member of the Nazi party, and stayed one untill it was abolished. I believe it was rather common to become a member though, especially for those who were in business. Or did Walter sr. become a member out of idealistic principles?
Did his wife get a German passport btw or did she stick to the Brazilian nationality?

And another question, did they stay in Germany, move to Brazil..etc?
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Thanks a lot Yennie. Did Walter sr. stay in Brazil untill his death? And does anybody know a website with some more information about Queen Sylvia's anscestors, her grandparents to start with for example?

So the Alice went from the Copacabana to the black forest, that must have been quite a change!
Heidelberg is not at the border of the Schwarzwald ("Black Forest") but of the Odenwald (Old germanic "Odin's Forest", where Siegfried of the Nibelung Saga was killed by Hagen). South of the Odenwald comes a picturesque landscape with softly rolling hills called the "Kraichgau" and only south of Kraichgau the first hills of the Black Forest start, leading down to the Swiss Border.

Heidelberg is at the end of a road called "Bergstraße", that starts in the Frankfort area and is famous for it's warm and sunny climate and the abundance of fruit and wine which is grown here. So it was not that much of a change in climate as Heidelberg nights are famous for being "tropic" and very hot in summer - one has to get used to them when studying in Heidelberg...
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Hey! I've a question!
The mother of queen silvia was called Alice de Toledo! Is the family of the queens mother from spain?
There is a town or village called Toledo!

Does someone now more about this?
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Old 12-05-2007, 06:39 PM
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Queen Silvia's mother was Brazilian, there are several posts above about the Sommerlath family living in Brazil for some years.
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Queen Silvia's mother was Brazilian, there are several posts above about the Sommerlath family living in Brazil for some years.
Yes, I know, but maybe the relatives of the queens mother came from spain!
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Here's more on the Queen's family:

Alice Soares de Toledo

Ancestry of Queen Silvia of Sweden (b. 1943)

All of her mother's family (even her great-grandparents) were born in Brazil.
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Old 12-07-2007, 06:05 AM
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Thanks a lot for the links, PrincessKoreen! Exhaustive information, very much appreciated.
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Patrick Sommerlath's girlfriend has twins

Patrick Sommerlath och Maline fick tvillingar - Svensk Damtidning

I didn't know Patrick still lived in Sweden. I only know he lived with the Royal Family when he was younger?
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can anyone translate the article?

how is he related to the queen??
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can anyone translate the article?

how is he related to the queen??
Patrick is the son of one of Queen Silvias brother, but I'm not sure of which
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Doesn't his girlfriend looks similar to Countesses of Bernadotte?
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Patrik sommerlath is wery nice boy i have wrote to him on Facebook. hi i som to silivias brother. his twins is wery nice i have se pictur on it on Patriks facebook.
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I just had lunch with my Mom and she was telling me about her trip to Sweden last week. She had coffee with her friend who happens to be the Mother of Patrick's girlfriend Maline. She got to meet Maline and the twins and showed me some photos of them, they are VERY cute!
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how many of her family live in sweden now i know one of her brothers sons live here
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