King Carl Gustaf & Queen Silvia - Current Events Part 3 (December 2003 - June 2004)

[Alexandria]

Welcome to Part III of News on the King and Queen of Sweden.

Follow this link for the previous thread of News and Pictures:

King Carl Gustaf & Queen Silvia - Current Events Part 2 (August - December 2003)

[Dennism]

Nice photos from tonight.

[hrhcp]

could you deliver on the nice photo's of tonight (Dec. 15)?

[Dennism]

" could you deliver on the nice photo's of tonight (Dec. 15)?"




Previous News thread:

http://www.lestribunesroyales.com/forums/i...pic=2446&st=200

[Dennism]

Queen Silvia had saved the monarchy. Article from December 21st in the Aftonbladet. Not to toot my own horn...



Drottning Silvia har räddat monarkin
I övermorgon fyller drottning Silvia 60 år. Få drottningar har varit så populär som hon och knappast någon av de 71 drottningar Sverige haft sedan Erik Segersälls dagar på 900-talet har betytt så mycket för den svenska monarkin som hon - ändå är hon en av de ytterst få av våra drottningar som inte var kunglig från början, ja inte ens adlig då hon föddes. Det fanns bara två sådana före henne och det var Karin Månsdotter ( 1550-1612) gift med Erik XIV och Désirée Clary (1777-1860) gift med Karl XIV Johan. Bara 21 av alla drottningarna har varit svenska kvinnor, den stora majoriteten har alltså kommit från utlandet, de flesta (20) från tysktalande furstendömen.

Sveriges drottningars historia är en dramatisk, ofta sorglig och ibland till och med blodig historia. Vi vet ganska lite om de allra första drottningarna ja i vissa fall vet man inte ens vad de hette, men många blev legender och några av de medeltida drottningarna blev till och med lokala helgon, som Elin av Skövde en stormansdotter från Västergötland som enligt traditionen skulle ha varit gift med kung Inge den yngre. Elin kallades Sankta Helena. Hemkommen efter en pilgrimsfärd till Rom ska hon ha mördats. Inge gifte då om sig med en annan from kvinna, som också hon reste till Rom, kom hem och avled, varpå hon blev lokalt helgon, Ragnhild av Tälje (1075-1117).

Nu hade Inge uppenbarligen fått nog av heliga kvinnor, för han gifte sig med en norsk stormansdotter Ulfhild Håkansdotter( 1095-1148), som visade sig vara en verklig farlig kvinna, giftmörderska och intrigmakerska av rent Skakespeareanska mått, uppenbarligen utan den minsta ambition att resa till Rom. Enligt krönikorna var det hon som kort efter bröllopet fick sin man att döda samregenten och äldre brodern Filip. En tid därefter föll Inge själv död ner, efter att ha inmundigat en "ond dryck". Då gifte hon om sig med Danmarks kung Niels Svendsson, som han också kort därefter avled under oklara omständigheter, varpå hon gifte sig för tredje gången. Nu med den nye svenske kungen Sverker, som hon gav en son, den blivande kung Karl Sverkersson. Vid den här tiden hade hennes dåliga samvete antagligen hunnit i fatt henne, varför hon grundade Alvastra kloster, senare även det som skulle bli Nydala kloster. Hon avled 1148, saknad av få.

Drottningödet har varit en tung börda för många unga flickor som av politiska och dynastiska skäl skickades upp till Sverige, till ett land de aldrig varit i, för att gifta sig med en man de aldrig sett och leva med ett språk de aldrig hört.
Så snart de kommit till Sverige måste de glömma sitt hemland, de flesta fick aldrig åka hem igen och de träffade aldrig mer någon av sina släktingar. Deras enda uppgift var att så snart som möjligt föda sin man en, helst flera söner, så att tronföljden var tryggad. Ända fram till 1800-talet var det ovanligt att drottningen hade mött sin blivande man innan hon kom till Sverige. Hon fick gärna vara rik, vacker och klok, men inte rikare än mannen och absolut inte klokare. I alla fall inte så det märktes.
Många av drottningarna var mycket unga, Filippa av England var bara 13 år då hon giftes bort med kungen Erik av Pommern. Femtonåriga drottningar var ganska vanligt och inte bara under medeltiden utan även senare. Gustav Vasa var en tandlös, dreglande femtiotreåring då han gifte sig med Katarina Stenbock 16 år. Karin Månsdotter var 15 år då Erik XIV slog klorna i henne. Johan III var själv en sjuklig, nedbruten gubbe då han tog Gunilla Bielke (1568-1597) till hustru. Hon var 15 år, lika gammal var den blivande drottning Josefina (1807-1876) då hon trolovades med den blivande Oscar I.

Då den tyska fröken Silvia Sommerlath år 1976 gifte sig med den levnadsglade kung Carl Gustav, var monarkins ställning svag i Sverige. Det blåste radikala vänstervindar i politiken. Hovet sköttes i stort sett av äldre herrar som gjorde som de gjort på gamle kungens tid. Risken var mycket stor att det svenska kungahuset kunde ha blivit en nordisk variant av huset Windsor, med alla dess skandaler. I så fall hade vi haft republik i Sverige redan för tjugo år sedan. Drottning Silvia visade sig vara en mycket målmedveten och ambitiös kvinna som med sitt leende och sin karisma blåste nytt liv i den halvdöda svenska monarkin. Hennes energi gjorde att kungahuset blev ett kungahus "För Sverige i tiden".

[Dennism]

Here I go again. Good practice:

Queen Silvia has saved the monarchy(Good start)

In two days time, Queen Silvia will be turning 60 years old. Few queens have ever been as popular as her and hardly 1 of the 71 queens Sweden has had since the day that Eric Segersälls in the 9th century(900 tal) started the Swedish monarchy, but she is still is in the upper echelon of queens as the most royal of queens since the beginning despite her not being born a royal.(Something like that). There were only(just, merely) two such before her and they were Karin Månsdotter ( 1550-1612) married to Erik XIV and Désirée Clary (1777-1860) married to Karl XIV Johan.(stupid service used the other meaning of gift; poison! Wait a minute. I thought she married Oskar 1) Just 21 of the queens have been Swedish women, the large majority(majoriteten!) have come from abroad with the most(20) coming from German principalities.

The history of the Swedish queens is dramatic, often mournful, and sometimes a bloody history as well. We know few of the early queens and in certain cases the man didn't say her name or let it be known and many became myths and some of the medieval queens became(lost) up to and including the local saint, Elin of Skövde, the tempestous(from the wind) daughter from Västergötland who according to tradition was married to king Inge in her youth. She was called Saint Helena. Coming home after a pilgrimage from Rome, she was murdered.(Helig dynga!) Inge then married another pious woman. who also travelled to Rome, came home and died whereupon she became the local saint Ragnhild of Tälje (1075-1117).

After all of this, Inge got tired of religious women(such a man) and got married to the tempestous Norwegian called Ulfhild Håkansdotter( 1095-1148). who showed herself to be a really dangerous woman!, a murderess by poison, and the intriguing spouse that Shakespeared measured(sized up, wrote about) and obviously without the smallest ambition to travel to Rome.(Technically, that doesn't make sense. So she wasn't religious. Still Rome had a lot of power. Anyway.) According to the crown or chronology of events, she was stupid or short after the wedding she received her man and killed(!!!) the same king(! or the swimming king!) and his older brother Filip. In time, Inge(must have been the Lappish king then) died too(Died down. Odd. I saw that coming), after he had consumed the "wicked drink"(Good grief). Then she married the Danish King Niels Svendsson and he was also stupid(and maybe short) and thereafter he died under obscure circumstances whereupon she married for the 3rd time. This time was with a new Swede, King Sverker who gave her a son who became Karl Sverkersson.(Sverker's son. Really original). From this time forward, she had a bad conscience(Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!) and probably managed herself(to get a hold of), founded Alvastra monastery and later founded Nydala monastery. She died in 1148 with few regrets?


The destiny of the queen? has been a heavy burden for many a young girl of political and dynastic cause(reason,) to be sent up to Sweden, to a country they have never seen, to a husband they have never seen, and to speak a language they have never heard. So they come to Sweden and they must forget their homeland, and must never meet again any of their relatives. She ends the task as soon as possible so that the man will gladly get several sons! so that the order of succession is secured.(Foda. Food?) Up to the 19th century, it was unusual for the queen and her husband to meet prior to her coming to Sweden. She was easily very rich, beautiul and sensible but not too wise as to be unwise or wiser than the king? In any case, it was a mark or noticeable.

Many queens were quite young. Flippa of England was only 13 when she married King Erik from Pommern. 15 year old queens was somewhat normal not only in medieval times but later as well. Gustav Vasa was a toothless, drooling 15 year old teenager when he married Katarina Stenbock who was 16. Karin Månsdotter was 15 when Erik XIV either fell into her clutches or fought tooth and nail for her. Johan III, himself a sickly man, became an old man after he took Gunilla Bielke (1568-1597) for his wife.(I'm sure there's a compliment in there somewhere) When she was 15 like past queens and queens-to-be(blivande a something to be), Queen Josefina (1807-1876 appealed to the future king, Oscar 1.

Then when in the year 1976, the German Miss(Fraulein, if you will) Silvia Sommerlath married life-happy(happy-go-lucky) King Carl Gustav, the monarchy was weak. This was a radical shift in policy.(Blew the winds of policy?) The royal court operated by and large as others did what they wanted to do as in the days of the past kings. Risking a very great part, the Royal house became a Nordic version of the House of Windsor with all of its scandals. In this case, we have had a republic already for 20 years or so. Queen Silvia showed(guided) herself(to be) the most goal-oriented(ambitious but in a nice way) and ambitious(O, well) women with her smile and her breezy charisma in the half-dead life of the Swedish monarchy.(She blew new life into it). Her energy made the royal family become a royal house for
"Sweden in our time"(Sweden for now).

[Dennism]

It has been announced that King Carl Gustaf and Queen Silvia will pay state visits to Vietnam and Brunei in February 2004.

They have been invited by President Tran Duc Luong to visit in Vietnam 2-7 Feb and will go to Hanoi, Hué and Ho Chi Minh City.
Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah of Brunei has invited the royal couple to visit Bandar Seri Begawan and the national park in Temburon 7-9 Feb.

[hrhcp]

My hat off to Sylvia.

It would be nice if some-one could do a comparative study between (on one hand) Sylvia, Carl Gustaf's mother and grandmother and (on the other hand) the common touch to the populace. Perhaps there is a review out there ?

[hrhcp]

Dennism  Posted on Dec 26th, 2003 - 9:54 pm
It has been announced that King Carl Gustaf and Queen Silvia will pay state visits ... 2004.

Too bad, its not a high priority for them to visit BC. I could show them all the 'best kept secrets' skiing venues.
- let's leave Whistler for 'high snobiety'.
- there is ____ Alpine for good downhill.
- ____ Star for a lot of 'wagon trails'.
- ____ Mountain to test your mettle.
- ____ for powder.
- a couple of others .... but I will reveal those to CG and S. :)

[Alexandria]

(Imagine Scandinavia) Queen Silvia of Sweden showed her great interest in flowers today when she opened a conference in the town of Enköping in Sweden, "Dutch perennials." She also was the first guest speaker, talking about a visit she paid some years ago together with queen Beatrix of Holland to the beautiful gardens of Enköping. Other prominent guests at the conference were the Dutch ambassador to Sweden, Rudolf S. Bekink and the Governor of the county, Anders Björk. 350 people took part in the conference. The day chosen for the conference coincided with "The day of the Tulip," celebrated each year on January 15.

(Imagine Scandinavia) Queen Silvia of Sweden showed her great interest in flowers today when she opened a conference in the town of Enköping in Sweden, "Dutch perennials." She also was the first guest speaker, talking about a visit she paid some years ago together with queen Beatrix of Holland to the beautiful gardens of Enköping. Other prominent guests at the conference were the Dutch ambassador to Sweden, Rudolf S. Bekink and the Governor of the county, Anders Björk. 350 people took part in the conference. The day chosen for the conference coincided with "The day of the Tulip," celebrated each year on January 15.

(Imagine Scandinavia) Queen Silvia of Sweden showed her great interest in flowers today when she opened a conference in the town of Enköping in Sweden, "Dutch perennials." She also was the first guest speaker, talking about a visit she paid some years ago together with queen Beatrix of Holland to the beautiful gardens of Enköping. Other prominent guests at the conference were the Dutch ambassador to Sweden, Rudolf S. Bekink and the Governor of the county, Anders Björk. 350 people took part in the conference. The day chosen for the conference coincided with "The day of the Tulip," celebrated each year on January 15.

(Imagine Scandinavia) Queen Silvia of Sweden showed her great interest in flowers today when she opened a conference in the town of Enköping in Sweden, "Dutch perennials." She also was the first guest speaker, talking about a visit she paid some years ago together with queen Beatrix of Holland to the beautiful gardens of Enköping. Other prominent guests at the conference were the Dutch ambassador to Sweden, Rudolf S. Bekink and the Governor of the county, Anders Björk. 350 people took part in the conference. The day chosen for the conference coincided with "The day of the Tulip," celebrated each year on January 15.

[Lena]

I can´t help, but in the newest pics Silvia looks much older...maybe some wrinkles grew, exactly on the day, on which she became 60 :P ( Or Victoria said "mummy, Daniel and me, we are engaged...what would that be in swedish..."Mamma, Daniel och jag/mej, vi är förlovad"??)

[Dennism]

What a sharp scarf Silvia is wearing. I like it.

[Lena]

Originally posted by Dennism@Jan 15th, 2004 - 7:22 pm
What a sharp scarf Silvia is wearing. I like it.

Victoria has (had?) a similar one...

[Dennism]

Yes, it would appear to be the same one or at least very similar. It looks "royal" if that means any sense.

[Fireweaver]

Victoria borrows her mom's jewellery, why not the other type of accessories? It makes sense, the Queen can't wear them all at the same time.
Well, ok, in theory she could, but she'd look really funny :)

[Lena]

Originally posted by Fireweaver@Jan 15th, 2004 - 8:20 pm

Well, ok, in theory she could, but she'd look really funny :)

That would be modern art then :)
And it would be interesting, if Victoria would lend her mother accessoires and dresses/clothes of her

[Fireweaver]

Ooh, picture Her Majesty in that pretty red dress Victoria wore recently!

[Dennism]

Or the Nobel gown from 2003. That would be interesting.

[Dennism]

18 Feb 2004

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