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Old 11-04-2007, 12:06 PM
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Ceuta and Melilla, of red and yellow

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Old 11-04-2007, 02:10 PM
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Los Reyes completan el mapa de España en Ceuta y Melilla

The Kings, who tomorrow Monday will travel to Ceuta and Tuesday to Melilla, complete with these visits the map of Spain, when they are on the verge of turning his 32 years of reign, and with them one of the periods of the more lasting parliamentary democracy of the history of the country.
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:14 PM
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thanks everyone for the articles & info. very useful reading to before the trip. Im looking forward to this, seems it'll be a nice visit for the King & Queen.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:13 PM
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shares with this one many cultural aspects.
with all respect that I have for every membersof this forum I will not comment.but I will said it again I am not against this visit and I hope the king found a big and warm welcome there.becouse it doesn't mean at all they are not occupied .
I hope that you do not bother but when I read your post I see that you are extremely resentful
With all my respect for you, I understand that moroccans like you feel resentful but it is known by all that Ceuta and Melilla are Spanish, and I think that it is time to accept this dear shrifia.
People in Ceuta and Melilla are Spanish with moroccan influences and the kings of Spain tomorrow will visit two spanish cities, and that is the reality.
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:05 PM
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I hope that you do not bother but when I read your post I see that you are extremely resentful
With all my respect for you, I understand that moroccans like you feel resentful but it is known by all that Ceuta and Melilla are Spanish, and I think that it is time to accept this dear shrifia.
People in Ceuta and Melilla are Spanish with moroccan influences and the kings of Spain tomorrow will visit two spanish cities, and that is the reality.
I am Portuguese and I don't have much to say about this controversial issue but I don' think anyone here is extremely resentful. I can tell you I found the argument between lula and shrifia very important to understand what is going on with this trip.
Let's enjoy the royal visit and be Friends
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:42 AM
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:01 AM
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AFP: Spain confirms controversial royal visit to Ceuta, Melilla

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Old 11-05-2007, 07:03 AM
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Los Reyes llegan a Ceuta y son recibidos por miles de ciudadanos en sus calles · ELPAÍS.com

The Kings come to Ceuta and are got by thousands of citizens in its streets

The King Juan Carlos, in his speech before the authorities of the city of Ceuta has admitted that " he had a hanging commitment " with the city. Thousands of persons waving the Spanish flag in their hands and shouting vítores the Kings and such phrases as " Ceuta is Spain " they received little before in the Plaza of Africa Don Juan Carlos and Dona Sofía in their first visit to the autonomous city in their 32 years of reign.
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In the lounge of the Plenary session, the King has admitted that " he had a hanging commitment " with this city, " with the natives of Ceuta and with its authorities, but also with us themselves as Kings who owe to themselves, first of all, all the Spanish ".

The King Juan Carlos has underlined also his speech the " spirit of integration and living together " of Ceuta, which looks at the future with confidence. After assuring that he has followed always very closely the thousand-year-old evolution of this city of history and culture, the King has demonstrated his satisfaction for being able to verify the modernity of Ceuta, " that it has could grow and prosper in the frame of pluralism and democracy that defines Spain ".

The Kings will support the first meeting with approximately 80 persons, before going up to the Inn of the Wall, where they will preside at a luncheon, after greet one one to more than 300 guests, between whom the different sectors of the society will be represented native of Ceuta, included the religious communities it christens, muslim, hebrew and hindu.
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Morocco: Fresh protest ahead of Spanish royal visit - article

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Thanks for the background and the video. What an amazing turnout.
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those cities are in Africa,how could they be spanish?
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those cities are in Africa,how could they be spanish?
In the same way that many countries have islands in seas and oceans, or that Russia and Turkey are between two continents.

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those cities are in Africa,how could they be spanish?
In 1415 Ceuta was occupied by John I of Portugal, in 1580 the crowns of Portugal and Spain were united so it became part of the Spanish empire too. After Portugal became independant from Spain, Ceuta sided with Spain and in 1668 Alphonso VI of Portugal ceded the city to Carlos II of Spain.

Melilla was conquered in 1497 by the 3rd Duke lof Medina Sidonia and became part of the crown of Castille.

Neither city was ever Maroccan as Marocco didn´t exsist yet, the belonged to the Kingdom of Fez.
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:19 AM
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Marengo Tanks for your imformation.!! wonderful imformaion I have to say!
What a wonderful visit, The people of Ceuta and Melilla seems to be very exciting for the visit!
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El Rey expresa su 'gran emoción y alegría' al cumplir 'un compromiso pendiente' | elmundo.es videos

The King expresses his "grand emotion and happiness ' on having expired ' a commitment ' Miles of persons waving the Spanish flag in their hans,houting vítores the Kings and such phrases as " Ceuta is Spain " they received Don Juan Carlos and Dona Sofía in their visit to the autonomous city in 32 years of reign
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:31 AM
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In 1415 Ceuta was occupied by John I of Portugal, in 1580 the crowns of Portugal and Spain were united so it became part of the Spanish empire too. After Portugal became independant from Spain, Ceuta sided with Spain and in 1668 Alphonso VI of Portugal ceded the city to Carlos II of Spain.

Melilla was conquered in 1497 by the 3rd Duke lof Medina Sidonia and became part of the crown of Castille.

Neither city was ever Maroccan as Marocco didn´t exsist yet, the belonged to the Kingdom of Fez.
And before they had been linked to the Moslem Kingdoms of the Peninsula Iberica, or to civilizations as the Byzantine one and Carthage.

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