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That is arguably one of the most absurd thing I have read here. The idea JC is so shallow and spiteful that she would chide people who have problem with their weight especially to people within her own family. There were frictions between MT and JC; I doubt weight problems were it. As for Alexandra and Guillaume's weight problems, I doubt she'll make a big fuss as do some people on royal boards since from all accounts I have read she loved and was very devoted to her grandchildren.
I agree. J-C was crazy about her grandchildren, and seemed particularly proud of Guillaume. I think if she was alive today she would be bursting with pride, especially considering the conduct of some of the other young Royals in comparison.
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Being overweight is no crime however if you love and care much for a relative or friend who is overweight you will be honest and let them know how they look and how you feel about it. I have never had a weight issue but some of the younger members of my family have. Weight is something if not worked on at an early stage will get worse. Women who have given birth several times it is natural for them to get the (spread). Princess Mary of Denmark who have given birth to twins and her sister-in-law Pr. Marie also Pr. Letiza of Spain have done very well to keep their weight down. Can you immagine when Princess Alexandra of Luxemberg give birth to her first child what she will look like?. Look at the picture of her in the gold dress at her brother's wedding (viewing her from the back her body looked like a matured woman) while her mother appeared youthful) Now I know what the Magazine Paris Match or another Mag. was referring to.

Overweight is beyond one's controll while others can work on it and be successful. Grand Duchess Charlotte would not be dirty and spiteful to discuss with her dear and beautiful grand children about their weight, she woulld have done the criticising in a loving way afterall she raised her own children and knew when to put the lock on the refrigerator door. She would have been appalled to hear Reportors of a Magazine having to do this.
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I think JC would be more appalled at the amount of criticism a young woman (or in this case her granddaughter) faced from random strangers simply because she isn't stick thin. So Alexandra isn't skinny like she had in the past, who gives a crap. She isn't a young teen anymore, but, a young woman whose body is changing as a results.

And people wonder why so many young women or women have serious eating and self-image problems. It is because people feels the need comments/criticized when someone has gained a little bit of weight or isn't as skinny as she used to be.
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I agree with what you say, I just like to add a small caveat. Stephanie's pedigree is not "somewhat like Princess Diana's," Stephanie leaves Diana in the dust! Remember, Diana's family--while impressive---was ennobled in 1603, while Stephanie's dates back to the 13th century if I'm not mistaken. That is to say, she have four centuries of nobility over Diana!!!
I thought Diana was a descendant of Charles II and therefore from a royal pedigree going back at least to 1066
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Diana was indeed a descendant of Charles II...through one of his many, many mistresses. Ditto for Sarah Ferguson, btw. In other words not a legitimate line of descent. And though the Spencers had Royal connections, they did not enter the peerage until relatively late.
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Comparing Diana is this thread has nothing to do with.
Grand Duchess Josephine Charlotte should have been delighted with the de Lannoy wedding.
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maria-olivia, something tells me J-C would have been over the moon with the wedding.
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Comparing Diana is this thread has nothing to do with.
Grand Duchess Josephine Charlotte should have been delighted with the de Lannoy wedding.
I agree. To illustrate how high the standing of the De Lannoy family was, already in mediaeval times, with the following members being Knights of the most prestigious Order of all, the Golden Fleece:
- Hugues de Lannoy (1384-1456), Lord of Santes
- Guilbert de Lannoy (1386-1462), Lord of Villerval and of Tronchiennes
- Baudouin de Lannoy (1388-1474), Lord of Molembaix
- Jean III de Lannoy (1410-1493), stadtholder of Holland and Zealand
- Baudouin II de Lannoy (1436-1501), Lord of Molembaix, of Solre and of Tourcoing
- Pierre de Lannoy (1445-1510), Lord of Fresnoy, Grand Chamberlain of Emperor Maximilian of Austria
- Charles de Lannoy (1482-1527), Lord of Senzeille, Prince of Sulmona, Count of Asti
- Philippe I de Lannoy (1487-1543), Lord of Molembaix and of Tourcoing, Anserœul and Solre

Etc. Etc. Etc.

Taking in mind that the Order was restricted to a limited number of knights, initially 24 but increased to 30 until 1516, already 8 De Lannoys having designated with this most prestigious Order, before 1500, it shows how respected the family De Lannoy already was, more than 500 years ago.

Another illustrative example: in 1551 Willem I of Nassau, Prince of Orange (the founder of the Netherlands) married with Anne d'Egmont, Countess of Buren, the sole heiress of her immensely rich father, Maximilien d'Egmont and her most noble mother Françoise de Lannoy. So William of Orange had a De Lannoy as his mother-in-law.

461 years after that another Nassau married a De Lannoy. Maria Olivia is right: Grand Duchess Joséphine-Charlotte, born a Princess of Belgium, would be most delighted with a De Lannoy, belonging to the most respected noble families in the Low Countries.

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I suppose (and hope) that apart from pedigree, which in the Lannoy's case is interesting indeed, there are other qualities in the future GDss that GDss JC may have found positive. If pedigree alone was a requirement she would have had easy relationships with some of her children(-in-law). However, it is known that she was difficult to all of them. Recently a poster at the BRMB said that since the early 90-ties JC was suffering from pains and ills as she underwent various surgeries, chemotherapy and radiation. This may have influenced her mood and behavior.
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. Recently a poster at the BRMB said that since the early 90-ties JC was suffering from pains and ills as she underwent various surgeries, chemotherapy and radiation.
And that she sometimes also had difficulties with Marie Astrid who according to the poster had to endure a lot during that time.
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What with Marie-Astrid ????
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Yes, what about problems with Marie-Astrid?
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