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Old 07-19-2011, 04:45 PM
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Belgium won't be split into two ..... if anything, it might be a four way split :-))
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:23 PM
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So the split is within the realms of possibility.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:43 AM
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Discussions are still underway, but there were one or two glimpses of hope...

However, while the political wrangling is underway, the ultra-right French politician Marine Le Pen is intervening in the Belgians' problems !

She suggests that, if Flanders wants to become independent, the French Republic would be honoured to "swallow up" Wallonia ....

http://www.lesoir.be/actualite/franc...nce-852254.php
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:29 AM
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Sorry - took a bit of time out of the Belgian Politics thread :-)

The Formateur, Elio di Rupo, is still in negotiations: "This wasn't easy for anyone" (Ce n'était facile pour personne").

Nothing's decided, but at least they're talking......

http://www.lesoir.be/actualite/belgique/elections_2010/
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:36 AM
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Whilst Elio Di Rupo carries on with his discussions, I've been looking at some of the "vox pop" and forums.

Here's an example - in translation:
"The French-speaking community of Belgium shall from now on be called the Fédération Wallonie-Bruxelles....."

...but at the same time, "the Flemish Minister-President wants to keep Bruxelles as a sub-region....."

I'm losing the will to live..... :-(
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Old 08-05-2011, 03:10 PM
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Hopefully the powers that be will reach an amicable solution.
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:30 PM
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Well, they have to. I can understand only too well that each of the party-political and linguistic groupings have genuine reasons for their stances.
But there has to come a cut-off point, I think...
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:52 PM
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Sssssssh .... they're still cogitating, and Elio di Rupo is still Formateur....

...but the Presidents of the eight parties ready to form a government have brought forward the date for their next meeting (and first full meeting) - to August 19th.
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Another newsflash from lesoir.be, confirming that Di Rupo will begin talks again with Yves Leterme on the 16th, and three days later with The Eight.

That's very good news, but one can't count one's chickens before they're hatched.....
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Thanks Renata for keeping us informed!
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:00 AM
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Just a quick rundown of the Belgian situation:

THESE ARE THE EIGHT:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kartel - an electoral alliance between 2 or more parties in Belgium.
(The word Kartel is Flemish ...)

Current Belgian Kartels:


Socialistische Partij Anders
Socialistische Partij Anders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Sociaal-Liberale Partij Sociaal-Liberale Partij - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Open VLD Vlaamse Liberalen en Democraten
(composed of VLD, Vivant (Vivant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia , and Liberal Appeal (Liberal Appeal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Mouvement Réformateur (Reformist Movement), francophone, liberal
Mouvement Réformateur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
with PRL (Parti Réformateur Libéral) Liberal Reformist Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and MCC - Mouvement des Citoyens pour le Changement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and FDF (Fédéralistes Démocrates Francophones) Fédéralistes Démocrates Francophones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and PFF (Partei für Freiheit und Fortschritt) Partei für Freiheit und Fortschritt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Christen-Democratisch en Vlaams (CD&V)
Christen-Democratisch en Vlaams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Nieuw-Vlaamse Alliantie
New Flemish Alliance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Vlaams Belang
Vlaams Belang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


VLOTT - Vlaams Liberaal Onafhankelijk Tolerant Transparant
VLOTT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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In the last two weeks or so, nothing much has occurred, although there was supposed to be a meeting on the 19th.

The word "conclave" has been mentioned, though it has nothing to do with popes and cardinals !

I suppose lots of people have been on their holidays, so let's hope we can make a bit more progress, now that we're in September.

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Elio di Rupo's elder brother has died.

But the negociations continue...
http://bl156w.blu156.mail.live.com/d...264c2433c&fv=1
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French-speaking socialist party (PS) President Elio Di Rupo with King Albert II
after their meeting at Laeken Royal Palace in Brussels September 12, 2011.



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Special editions on all tv channels... our King has come back in emergency from his holidays... discussions are interrupted.
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Old 09-14-2011, 07:49 AM
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Interim Prime minister Leterme announced that he will leave his post by the end of the year so he can start a new job. Informateur DiRupo is about ready to call it a day and give the task back to the king, who in turn can look for another informateur. Really too idiotic.

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King Albert: "Hurry up and strike a deal on state reforms"

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Tue 13/09/2011 - 10:59 King Albert has asked the representatives of the eight parties struggling to form a new Federal Government to increase their efforts to reach an agreement on state reforms. The king spoke with the Francophone socialist leader Elio Di Rupo, who is leading the talks, on Monday evening.
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King Albert has the patience of a Saint...

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King Albert has the patience of a Saint...

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I quite agree. I admire him very much.
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Maybe the King should take control of the govt. and run the country himself
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The BHV problem that stopped everything else is now solved.
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