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Old 06-04-2014, 03:45 AM
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Dear Lord, why do they keep on doing things separately from the Royal Palace? Philippe firing their spoke person wasn't enough? Let's hope this won't effect badly on the family image again.
It was really moving anyway, the bit where he talks about Baudouin's death

Uhm... while Pardoen was fired, Paola and Albert re-hired him in May in a job with a different function-title, but with the same tasks. He has been working for them for over 20 years of course.

Ontslagen raadgever Albert en Paola blijft in dienst - De Standaard

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I don't see how this will reflect on anybody btw, I am sure it will be mainly a sentimental interview, telling about memories and such. And since he is able to give an interview for the first time since 1993, I am happy that he does actually. Still, this could also have been arranged wíth the palace knowledge and cooperation.

BTW, the Flemish commercial broadcaster VTM is also involved in the interview, but it was decided to do it completely in French.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:58 PM
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Queen Paola handed out the Queen Paola Education Award 2013-2014 (Prijs Koningin Paola - Prix Reine Paola), at the Royal Castle in Laken today, June 4:




** belga gallery ** facetoface ** Prix Reine Paola : Entr’aide et l’école d’Awan récompensés ** translation **
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Old 06-04-2014, 03:26 PM
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[QUOTE=Marengo;1672028]Uhm... while Pardoen was fired, Paola and Albert re-hired him in May in a job with a different function-title, but with the same tasks. He has been working for them for over 20 years of course.

I am sure it will be mainly a sentimental interview, telling about memories and such. And since he is able to give an interview for the first time since 1993, I am happy that he does actually. Still, this could also have been arranged wíth the palace knowledge and cooperation. UNQUOTE


I think all this controversies and rivalry between king Philip and his father are most regrettable!! and give a vey poor image of the RF. I find it regrettable that most difficulties of the king come from his parents!! Sorry, Albert and Paola should now become discreet, under the current circumstances... I wonder whether it is not simply a money business since Albert is complaining about insufficient income.


I hope my next comment can fit here: I kooked again at the pictures taken at the Church on the occasion of the "communion" of the kids of Laurent & Claire: no picture shows greetings or conversation between Philip and the rest of the family.... sure photographers would not have missed that, if there had been some courtesy between them.
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:16 AM
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IMHO abdicating while retaining the title of King and Queen is a recipie for disaster. They abdicate the hard yards and yank the rug out from under the actual monarch, their own son. Who does that?

This sort of behavior does them no favours and certainly cements the poor opinion many people gained of them and the the way they treat their children which arose during the hospitalisation of Prince Laurent.

All in all it leaves one wondering exactly what they are about. It can't be their country - their behavior is sending confusing messages about who is the real King and who holds the real power and, it certainly isn't their children since it is their son King Phillipe who is left looking stupid.

In the photos of them voting they look such a sweet and benign couple. Whoever would imagine the machiavellian machinations of those two?

Perhaps there might have to be some further legislation regarding those who abdicate . . .
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:29 AM
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IMHO abdicating while retaining the title of King and Queen is a recipie for disaster. They abdicate the hard yards and yank the rug out from under the actual monarch, their own son. Who does that?

This sort of behavior does them no favours and certainly cements the poor opinion many people gained of them and the the way they treat their children which arose during the hospitalisation of Prince Laurent.

All in all it leaves one wondering exactly what they are about. It can't be their country - their behavior is sending confusing messages about who is the real King and who holds the real power and, it certainly isn't their children since it is their son King Phillipe who is left looking stupid.

In the photos of them voting they look such a sweet and benign couple. Whoever would imagine the machiavellian machinations of those two?

Perhaps there might have to be some further legislation regarding those who abdicate . . .
I agree with you. And also I find the timing of this interview badly chosen. Philippe is going through a tough moment now. Elio Di Rupo just gave his resignation after the elections, and the King gave Bart De Wever the assignement to try and make a new government by making alliances with other parties...and this can take quite a long time. Last time Belgium spent 500 days without a government. Showing himself this way, Albert risks to put his son Phillippe in a vulnerable position, when he needs to be at his best in the eyes of his subjects
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Old 06-05-2014, 11:57 AM
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King Albert II's private interview is for His 80th birthday !
If He has to wait more than 500 days until we will have a new government... he will be more than 81 years.
I wrote him a letter with my wishes for His Birthday .
In Belgium if you write to the Royal Family you may not send a printed letter from your PC !
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An interview completely in French, now that’s a very clever idea to boost the image of the RF in Flanders. NOT.

I feel so bad for Philippe. The press made the most of the situation, it’s been all over the place and it is reflecting badly on the RF, highlighting again how dysfunctional this family is. For ex. the journalists wonder why the Belgians should have trust in Philippe when his own parents clearly haven’t. Much can be said about Philippe’s role as crown prince but he was loyal, accepted the rules even if they had a negative impact on his image and didn’t mention the bad relationship with his parents in public. What has he done all these decades to deserve the treatment he gets?

I also wonder what happens when the interview is aired. Sybille de Selys Longchamps already commented on it and surely will do again when the interview is aired. And what if Laurent is next to sit down in front of a tv camera and talk about his childhood and all.
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News regarding Vincent Pardoen: his official successor Degraer asked to be dismissed last week (before he knew about the interview) since Vincent Pardoen was doing all the work anyway. Degraer is appointed as new head of Philippe`s military department. Pardoen was also the one who coordinated this interview, it is seen as his revenge. Last Saturday they had a preview with Albert’s lawyer to make sure that the part on Delphine wouldn’t be used against him in court. They also had two passages removed from the interview, one of them is supposed to be about the dotation. This Saturday an exhibition on Albert will be inaugurated in the presence of the whole RF. I hope Pardoen doesn’t show up there.
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:35 PM
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While I agree that Albert and Paola's decision not to inform the King prior to this interview is pretty deplorable, it also demonstrates that Philippe is clearly lacking in authority in his new position. He needs to assert himself and demonstrate once and for all that there is only one monarch in Belgium and it is not his father. That his parents seemingly disrespect and undermine their son at will suggests that they think they can get away with it.

Proof were it needed that the recent phenomenon of abdications is not the unalloyed positive for monarchy that some seem to think it is.
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Old 06-06-2014, 03:38 AM
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While I agree that Albert and Paola's decision not to inform the King prior to this interview is pretty deplorable, it also demonstrates that Philippe is clearly lacking in authority in his new position. He needs to assert himself and demonstrate once and for all that there is only one monarch in Belgium and it is not his father. That his parents seemingly disrespect and undermine their son at will suggests that they think they can get away with it.

Proof were it needed that the recent phenomenon of abdications is not the unalloyed positive for monarchy that some seem to think it is.
The abdication may be a good thing that can give new life to the monarchy but there's a condition: the old monarch should not interfere with the work of the new one and especially with his reforms. I think Philippe is in an incredible delicate position. You can't blame him if he's not too tough with his parents. Can you imagine the reaction of the press if says to his father to shut up?!

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The interview itself would be fine if they had cleared it with the court first, but as usual, Albert and Paola have to do things their own way and go over their son to try to clean up their image (badly impacted by the Laurent issue, I've heard many belgians saying all kind of things about that, none positive).

Philippe has far bigger things on his plate than to scold his parents for their behavior, the formation of the new government is (as it should be) his number one priority, they are old enough to behave like adults but if they want to behave like spoiled teenagers, there's nothing he can do to avoid that.

Is Pardoen still a diplomat? if he is, then Philippe should send him away from Belgium, it is clear that he wants nothing but diminish the King's authority.
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Old 06-07-2014, 08:36 AM
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He did an interview in Dutch.
No word in our newspaper about his 80th birthday. Will he have a family Celebration ?
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Old 06-07-2014, 11:25 AM
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He did an interview in Dutch.
No word in our newspaper about his 80th birthday. Will he have a family Celebration ?
In the Nieuwsblad they said he will have dinner with only Paola, then open a gallery in the BoZar
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Old 06-07-2014, 11:37 AM
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He did an interview in Dutch.
No word in our newspaper about his 80th birthday. Will he have a family Celebration ?
I don't mean to sound harsh but ... what family? Clearly the relationship with their two boys are quite cold ...
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I don't think that either KA and QP are ready to give up the throne to their son just yet even though they did. Going behind his back and doing this type of thing shows that they have no respect for him, his family, the heir and the people. They are looking to be very selfish, arrogant and backhanded people and someone really needs to have a strong talk with them. They aren't the most important people in the world even when they held that position of being king and queen, they were just in the news. They way they are behaving right now shows how insecure they are. They still have a very great lifestyle and can come and go as they please, so they should just enjoy the life they have and have fun..............don't we all wish we could live like them now............they need a reality check big time!
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Pics and videos of the family attending the inauguration of the exhibition on the occasion of King Albert's 80th birthday can be found at the family's current events thread:



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Old 06-08-2014, 10:45 AM
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another sneek peak from the interview. King Albert and Paola talk about themselves as parents, and admitted they made their children suffer because of their behaviour but they don't consider themselves guilty of anything because there's no point in it, plus they did the best they could with their children, considering what their upbringing was.
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I don't think that either KA and QP are ready to give up the throne to their son just yet even though they did. Going behind his back and doing this type of thing shows that they have no respect for him, his family, the heir and the people. They are looking to be very selfish, arrogant and backhanded people and someone really needs to have a strong talk with them. They aren't the most important people in the world even when they held that position of being king and queen, they were just in the news. They way they are behaving right now shows how insecure they are. They still have a very great lifestyle and can come and go as they please, so they should just enjoy the life they have and have fun..............don't we all wish we could live like them now............they need a reality check big time!
Yes most people in Belgium are quite critical about them. Basically they need to learn how to "retire", and accept the conséquences of retirement. In Belgium for most citizens it means less money. First thing they have to accept. Incidentally the interveiews (in FR and the shorter one in Dutch) were given to commercial TV channels. We could imagine he was paid for giving them...
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Oh, do you think he was paid for giving these interviews? If so, that in itself is pretty underhanded. His he trying to sell himself as a king still in control to make money? Good grief, he isn't poor and still lives like a king, what is his problem and hers? They have servants, cars, castles or wherever they live, money, jewels, connections to powerful people and they still are acting this way............time to put them both in chains and deep in a dungeon I say and lock the door...............lolololo.
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Thanks for loving my country SElisabeth.
The interview is Banco for RTL and his Journalist Pascal Vrebos.
Normally this evening we will have first in french and after in Dutch..
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