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Well, I donīt like so much Dephine Boel. I can understand her anger if it is true that her biological father rejected her just at the rough times when her mother was suffering a heart disease. Maybe she hoped her father might be supportive to a woman who had been his mistress for decades and, also, a woman who had borne him a daughter. The way Albert refused to hear anything from her daughter is really painful...the words "never dare to say you resembles my mother, how you dare to say this?" sounds very cruel to my ears. So, I feel sympathetic to his daughter at this point.
But the question is that if your biological father donīt loves you and donīt cares for you, thereīs nothing you can do to change this. I donīt think, really, that king Albert rejected her daughter as a proof of love and respect to his queen Paola. If he wanted to show love and, I say more, respect to his wife, he never had fathered a children out of wedlock after a relationship which was strong enough to endure eighteen years. I can understand the mistress was banished from his heart and he made all that he could to safe his marriage with Paola, but I donīt understand why Albert and Paola never tried to have a fair relationship with Delphine. I mean...you can banish a lover from your life, but if you have a heart and a concience, you canīt banish a son/daughter from your life just because he/she was conceived out of wedlock.
The truth is that I donīt like Delphine behaviour...but I donīt like Albert behaviour, neither.

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Old 04-14-2008, 02:58 PM
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By the way Miss Boel will be the guest tonight of the french TV show "Vie privée, vie puplique" on France 3.
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Nico,
What is this show about?
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Old 04-14-2008, 03:09 PM
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Tonight's thema is about father/son/daughter relationships in celebrity circles. Miss Boel is here of course about what you know.....
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There is no surprise that Miss Boel truly enjoys basking in the attention of people who feel compassion for her "sad" situation. I am curious how long this hysteria will last ...
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Old 04-14-2008, 03:42 PM
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There is no surprise that Miss Boel truly enjoys basking in the attention of people who feel compassion for her "sad" situation. I am curious how long this hysteria will last ...
As long as these people will be alive or just will be...
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Well, in Delphine's defence, she kept quiet for very long times, until a few years ago actually. And she has every right to be angry, he is her fatehr and that gives the King some obligations (esp. considering the King and Baroness Sybille had a relationship of 16 years), painfull as they may be for him, his wife and his family at the moment.

Delphine has every right to be angry and even to publish her side of the story. She seems to be very bitter and angry IMO. I think it would have been wiser if the king would have come to some sort of relationship with his daughter, in a discrete way of course. It would have been less damaging for the monarchy and I can not imagine that King Albert can be very happy with the present rift with a daugher that he saw secretly for one and a half decades or so.
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Old 04-15-2008, 04:14 AM
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I used the title, because she was referred to as Delphine, Baroness Boel on the photos provided by Paty (see post#89, click on a photo).
sorry,if you are offended in any way......in all the articles that i've read about her she has always been referred to as miss boel.... maybe some of the belgian members could clear the confusion?
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:21 AM
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I am not Belgian but I can help out too, Delhine is not a baroness, just Miss Delphine Boël, but her mother is a baroness by birth, Baroness Sybille de Selys-Longchamps.
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:53 PM
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Marengo,
Thanks for explanations!
The more I read about Ms. Boel, the more I am inclined to think that King Albert was not exactly thrilled by prospects of having a child with Baroness Sybille de Selys-Longchamps. It seems to me that King Albert wanted and wants to have nothing to do with his illegitimate daughter. All this rude communication between King Albert and Ms. Boel as well as the way he has treated her might serve as a clear indication that he did wish to have an affair, but without complications such as a child.
Well, I might be wrong...
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:58 AM
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Well, he had a relationship for 16 years with the Baroness, and he saw Delphine frequently and for quite some years too. I guess now things have been mended with Paola and he has become King he doesn't like to be remmebered about the affair or the child, but IMO he should take responsibility for his actions instead of walking away from them.
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:31 AM
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I fully agree with your opinion. It was rather short-sighted on King Albert's side to brew a controversy, which cast the shadow on the reputation of the Royal family during such uneasy times for the monarchy. Yes, Ms. Boel has got a full right to be furious, but at this moment she just capitalizes on her sad situation: PR campaign for art, which I do not understand or appreciate. Let her enjoy the life as her sufferings will soon be replaced with more exciting news... Still the way King Albert treated and treats Delphine signals me that he did want this child. Well ... I might be wrong in my assumptions...
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Allright, I had typed up a post for this thread a few days ago, but then decided not to post it, but now I feel like I need to clear up some things.

I learned about Delphine Boel being king Albert's illegitimate daughter in 1999, when a book was published about Queen Paola's life by a young Royalty-fan, Mario Danneels (no family of Godfried kardinaal Danneels as far as I know). After publication of that book it became clear that it was a hidden secret in the Wetstraat among politicians and that rumours about such a love-child had been going around for quite some time now. That was around the same time as the announcement of Philippe's engagement to jonkvrouw Mathilde d'Udekem d'Acoz.

In his Christmas speech of December 1999 king Albert admitted that he and his wife had had problems at one point in their marriage. That was no surprise, it had been known for quite some time that the couple had grown apart at one point and that they got together again in the early 1980's.
The way it was said and the timing so close to the revalation of Delphine Boel being the daughter of Albert made it clear that she was and is his daughter.

Albert and Sybille (Delphine's mother) were both married to someone else when they started an affair in 1966. Two years later Dephine was born. Delphine has stated that Albert offered her mother to divorce twice, one time in the 60's and once in the 70's. Sybille refused that, because by then it was known what offers Albert would have to make before he would be allowed the divorce.

Albert's brother, king Boudouin told Albert that if he got a divorce then he would lose his title as Prince of Belgium as well as his place in the order of succession (he was first in line) and that he would lose costody of his three children Philippe, Astrid and Laurent. He would also have to promise that Sybille would never have access to either Philippe, Astrid or Laurent. Sybille didn't want that and moved to London with her daughter.

Delphine only got publicity with her work after the fact that she was Albert's daughter became public knowledge. It has been stated in an interview on VTM's Royalty with an art journalist that Delphine's work isn't top of the arts but that her connection with Albert makes the press go wild.

Yes her art is a way of wanting to connect with her father, but it's clear that she hasn't heard the Dutch expression "you can catch more bees with honey than vinegar" (je vangt meer vliegen met honing dan azijn). Otherwisely said: you can get more done with friendliness and politeness than with anger and publicity.

Legally she hasn't got anything to stand on, Albert can't acknowledge her anymore! It's stated in Belgian civil law that a child born in a marriage that that child is fathered by the woman's spouse unless that spouse claims he's not the father. Jacques Boel never filed a claim that he suspected Delphine not to be his, so therefore Delphine legally is Jacques Boel's daughter.

Besides that there were only two people who could have forced an opening in all of this: and that are Sybille and Delphine themselves!
After Delphine's birth Sybille could have filed a claim stating that her husband wasn't her daughter's biological father. At that point Delphine's birth records would have shown father unknown. Delphine would have been fatherless at that point, but later on claims could have been made or Sybille could have ordered bloodtests. But Sybille decided against it and didn't do anything...

Delphine knew at a very early age that her legal father wasn't her biological father and before she turned 18 in 1986 she could have taken legal action herself in order to get her birth certificate changed, but she didn't do that.

Unfortunatly that are the only times when legally the paternaty can be changed under Belgian law.

As far as I can remember the birth certificate of Alexandre Coste claimed "Father unknown". His mother wasn't married at the time of his birth and no one claimed to be his father, so therefore it was pretty simple for Albert of Monaco to step up and acknowledge him as his son. Don't remember the facts with Jazmin so...

My conclusion: yes she looks like Queen Astrid, but legally she can't do a thing. It's too late for action so now it might be better to stop causing a stirr and keep a low profile. It's always possible that a reaction from the Palace might occur, but for now, all doors are shut.
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She claims to be King Abert 2nd of belguim Illegitimate Daughter
She doesn't claim it, she IS his daughter
Just look at the pictures, she looks sooooooooooo much like him
I like her
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Are there any news about giving birth to her second child?
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She doesn't claim it, she IS his daughter
Just look at the pictures, she looks sooooooooooo much like him
I like her
That's the sad and embarrassing part(for Albert, that is) She looks so much like Alberts mother it's just amazing. There is no way to deny that she is his daughter and he would be wise not to try.
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Hier is an article about Delphine on an arabic magazine "Lahamagazine" page 1

I can't translate because I'm not goed in english.

They speak about the book en about the relationship between Delphine en her father.
http://pdf.lahamag.com/pages/04-2008/396People02.pdf
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Hi there Fie...I donīt agree with you...how can you demand such things of a young girl!! Itīs normal that she now...at an age of 40 years have the strength to deal with this matter. She had been treated real bad...she hasnīt got the LOVE and CARE that a child has RIGHT to get from her real father! Itīs very, very bad to act like Albert had done!

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While it is very sad that Delphine does not have a relationship with her father....she needs to stop acting out (i.e. talking about the lack of relationship with the press) because in my opinion its not going to make Albert seek a relationship with her. I do feel for Paola, to be constantly reminded of your husbands infidelity due to the presence of a child...but its not the child's fault. Delphine didn't ask to be here.

Say what you want about Albert and Bernhard at least they acknolwedged their children (in some form of fashion) and had some type of relationship with them.
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