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Old 06-22-2013, 08:19 PM
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I have no idea how she feels, I was loved by my father and family. Some "adopted" children seek their biological fathers, mothers, families. They can tell you why, I can't. She is, obviously, a hurt human being. Albert should say aye or nay. It is a very long time ago. Paola isn't going anywhere at this point and I think they rectified the problems.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:35 PM
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In paternity suits, the (alleged) mother, father and child might be required to submit DNA samples. But, I don't believe that another child (who is not a party to the matter) can be compelled to do so.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:42 PM
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In paternity suits, the (alleged) mother, father and child might be required to submit DNA samples. But, I don't believe that another child (who is not a party to the matter) can be compelled to do so.
You are, probably, right. It is hard to be an "alleged mother". It is like the blonde joke...when the blonde lady is giving birth, she asks the doctor, does he think the baby is hers. Not a good joke, but...it is a terrible situation for all.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:54 PM
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What king of relationship can you get when you oblige someone to acknowledge you ? So it must be related to money....now the word "pride" comes in my mind, if you have nothing in life there is always pride to maintain. She's forgetting it.
So Pride comes from hiding from the truth? So Pride comes from helping someone more powerful covering up the truth? How can anyone feel pride when a parent ignores you and pretend you don't exist? This woman has every right to have the King acknowledge her or submit to a DNA test if he does not agree. King or not, basic integrity is still the same.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:58 PM
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I'm with my fingers crossed for that woman not being His Majesty's daughter. She's just an awful gold digger, who deserves nothing from the Royal Family.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:37 AM
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Delphine's mother reacts: article
Thank you for the article. I wonder what would have happened if she didn't respect what the king and queen have found again together.
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Old 06-23-2013, 04:46 AM
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In paternity suits, the (alleged) mother, father and child might be required to submit DNA samples. But, I don't believe that another child (who is not a party to the matter) can be compelled to do so.
Yes, but i think that her problem is that her alleged father is the king and the king cannot be taken to court...
If, as she is saying, she only wants to find out the truth and isn't after money or attention, then they should all have tried as much as possible to settle this in private (maybe Laurent could have been the intermediate)... this action is not helping her case in any way, shape or form IMO
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:41 AM
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I think all of us have dealt badly with sitations when we've been angry, sad or upset. I don't think that ms Boel is any different. This might not be the best way to take it from here, but the situation has deteriorated and taken turns for the worse over a long period of years.

Both parts have acted in a strange and sometimes bad way. But the heart of the matter is that the king has the upper hand. If he had recognized Delphine back in -99 and simply told people even if things were really hard between him and the queen back then, they are fine today, and that he loves and cares for all his children - how big could the damage be? Not as big as the one we're seeing today, no matter what the result will be of the lawsuit.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:30 AM
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I am getting crazy about what the press say, the stupidities.
In this present state it is impossible for the King to recognize her. For that the official father (who has already recognized her) would have to bring an action in justice to deny officially his paternity. And if he is successful, then the King would be able to recognize her. Even if the King wanted it, in this present state of things it is impossible !!!!!
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:32 AM
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This is really bad timing of Delphine. King Albert is to celebrate his 20 years on the throne but this will cast a huge shadow on the festivities. I agree it would have been better that he recognized her when the speculations began, but it must have been a really difficult matter to handle. I can imagine he didn't want to hurt queen Paola even more with admitting publicly he has a child that is not hers.

About Laurent ... Newspapers have reported that the king had provided, voluntarily, a DNA sample to prove Laurent is his son. Apparently the prince doubted about his legitimacy himself. Don't know if it's true, but then again, I think Laurent has to many similarities with Albert to not be his son.

Also, it was stated in the news that no one has to deliver a DNA sample if they don't want to. However, the judge can then say that person is the real father based on him not wanting to provide a sample.

Even if it's proven that the king is Delphines father, she could not inherit the throne because she isn't a legitimate descendant of King Leopold I. And Albert couldn't be her father, because she already has (a legal) one, Jacques BoŽl. One can have only one father.

Here the article with the information:
"Kans op succes is miniem voor Delphine BoŽl" - Binnenland - De Morgen
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:47 AM
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It may be bad timing on the part of this young woman but perhaps other things have gone on and she has tried without success to find out and this was a last resort.

The king knows if he was unfaithful with the mother of this young woman, if there is a chance he is the father (he may have known for a long time) he should be responsible now and do what needs to be done. It's not this girls fault she was conceived.

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Old 06-23-2013, 10:20 AM
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Number 1 on TV this evening . Why now and not before ??
HM the King never goes to Court but what about his children and why not Prince Laurent ?

Why now and not before!!???Because she was recently desinherited by the man who's name she bears,that's why...and as "Double W's "do,they go to any length to get it their way...well..she's not going to get far,or better..she's not going to go anywhere..Everyone shrugs their shoulders for this...well...what shal I call her...Don't feel sorry for her,she's a cheap trick,nothing else.
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:16 AM
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When Sybille met Albert, why did she not suggest that things couldn't go farther intimately, since they both were married to others at the time? She is just as guilty as he in that regard. I wonder if Albert's sister, Josephine-Charlotte knew of the affair and its coverup? She didn't like it when her son, Henri, married a commoner. One can only guess how she would have reacted to it.
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Old 06-23-2013, 02:59 PM
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Her place in the line of belgian succession will never be a matter.
Of course it's not delphine's fault to be there and the first people to be pointed as guilty are the king( the alleged father ) and her mother. But what makes many of us to think bad about her is in my opinion her lack of understanding of her alleged father's political, social and personal life's situation. I don't His Majesty has ever been able to recognise her without hurting people around him.
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Old 06-23-2013, 03:39 PM
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Gosh, what a bad Situation.
Whereas - if it is really your child (and I was really shocked reading, that the relationship dated 18 YEARS), then the king should recognize her.

He can take a lesson from Albert of Monaco -- whereas I know, that there has been a difference - during this time he was not married.

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Old 06-23-2013, 07:19 PM
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Gosh, what a bad Situation.
Whereas - if it is really your child (and I was really shocked reading, that the relationship dated 18 YEARS), then the king should recognize her.

He can take a lesson from Albert of Monaco -- whereas I know, that there has been a difference - during this time he was not married.

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I agree. Albert of Monaco has acknowledged his illegitimate children. Albert of Belgium needs to do the same.

I get that a lot of personal pride may be involved, but it would be best if he just owned up to it or voluntarily provided a DNA sample if he is so convinced he is not the father. It's not going to go away and stuff like this just chips away at what popularity is left of the Belgian monarchy. HM must do what's best for the monarchy -- not himself.

Like I said, I don't see how he can't be the father. The similarities between Boel and the late Queen Astrid (along with the rest of the family, particularly the king's late sister, Josephine-Charlotte) are far too great in my opinion.

Just for the sake of comparison:

Astrid (supposed grandmother) & Delphine
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...e/Royal/57.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...FqW5deJv1ZCWGs

Josephine-Charlotte (supposed aunt) & Delphine
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3...2128o1_500.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...GwupnErxH81wjA

Phillippe (supposed half-brother) & Delphine
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/P...Ws8wayZLBl.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-u0Eh4ImE-...rop%5B1%5D.jpg
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:38 PM
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I expect it will be tossed out of court since the King cannot be sued. I cannot see how a court could compel Philippe or Astrid to give a DNA sample for an alleged sibling.
Her motive seems pretty clear to me, She has been disinherited by her legal father because of her repeated and public statements that she is not his daughter. Her business is bankrupt. Voila, lets sue the King!!
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Gosh, what a bad Situation.
Whereas - if it is really your child (and I was really shocked reading, that the relationship dated 18 YEARS), then the king should recognize her.

He can take a lesson from Albert of Monaco -- whereas I know, that there has been a difference - during this time he was not married.

Bye Bine
There are two more differences, and quite relevant IMO:
firstly, Albert of Monaco was open to have a relationship with his illegitimate children; King Albert instead clearly doesn't want to have anything to do with Delphine. In the first case, the recognition of the child can have some good effect, in the second case I don't think that any positive thing will happen.
Secondly, the children of Albert of Monaco didn't have - before he recognized them as his children - legally a putative father. Delphine instead legally has a father, Mr. Jacques BoŽl, and unless he officially disowns Delphine as his daughter nobody else can be officially declared to be her father (granted that, if he wanted to do that, it would still be possible for Mr. BoŽl to disown Delphine).
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Old 06-24-2013, 06:56 AM
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Isn't Mr BoŽl dead ????
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No, he is still alive, AFAIK.
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