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Old 02-09-2015, 09:16 AM
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Some Australian monarchists have painted themselves into a corner by insisting that the Governor-General is The Head of State, as it begs the question of what then is the Queen? The Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia does not mention a Head of State, so I don't see the point of getting bogged down in establishing beyond doubt who is and who isn't. I prefer to call the Queen the Queen, and the Governor-General the Governor-General. Either of them can be described, if necessary, as functioning as a head of state depending on the circumstances.
There is an argument that the G-G is our Head of State, but I have not wrapped my brain around it fully yet. I need to do so. I think it would be rather nice if it could be decided, and accepted, that the G-G is our Head of State, and that the British Monarch is our ... something else. It would save so much money if we could avoid changing all the paperwork.
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:08 PM
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Why not call the GG something else - like President - and not have anything to do with a woman who lives on the other side of the world? Then we would truly have an Aussie as our Head of State.


Fortunately there will probably be minimal coverage in the mainstream Aussie press as they rarely report on the visits of foreign royals other than the Windsor's and the Danes or even the leaders of any other nation except maybe the US and China.
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The argument that the Governor-General is the head of state, while the Queen is the sovereign, is strongly based on Section 61 of the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia, which states that the "executive power of the Commonwealth is vested in the Queen and is exercisable by the Governor‑General as the Queen's representative". If the Queen moved to Canberra permanently, we would still need a Governor-General to carry out the functions assigned to him by the Constitution, such as his role in the Federal Executive Council.

I like the eccentricity of our odd constitutional set up, it adds a bit of colour to a world dominated by dull republics and even duller presidents. I like colonial relics; the country is full of them (state parliaments, universities, hospitals, railways, sporting clubs, wonderful architecture etc. etc.) If people are fixated on the title Head of State, all it would take is an act of parliament to give it to the Governor-General, but I don't see the point really.

The visit by the King and Queen of Norway probably won't get much coverage in the press, but I can't see what is so fortunate about that. I'm sure the King and Queen will come here with the intention of making a positive contribution to Australian/Norwegian relations. It's a bit of an insult to our guests to say it is fortunate if their visit is ignored.
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:44 AM
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State visit by Their Majesties King Harald V and Queen Sonja of Norway
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Old 02-21-2015, 07:18 PM
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The invitation came from the Governor-General so this sort of official announcement should be made by the Governor-General, not the Prime Minister. It's one of the problems of our system that Prime Ministers, Labor and Liberal alike, will always upstage the Governor-General. Unfortunately I still can't find a detailed itinerary so a day trip to Sydney is not likely.

Here's a funny clip from an interview with the King and Queen in which they discuss their upcoming activities.

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Old 02-22-2015, 04:56 PM
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A report from The Canberra Times with photos:
Norwegian royalty touch down in Canberra

I'm a little disappointed this is all I could find in our newspapers.
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I hope there will be more later today after the official welcome by the Governor-General and, I assume, a visit to the Australian War Memorial. It's a shame a detailed itinerary was not released, and that the Governor-General's website doesn't include upcoming engagements (and is so slow on updating).
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Feb 22 - AUS: King Harald V And Queen Sonja Of Norway Visit Australia - Day 1

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Day 2 of the visit

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A report from The Canberra Times with photos:
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I'm a little disappointed this is all I could find in our newspapers.

I have seen nothing in any of the major papers or on the main news stations - it simply isn't 'news' here.
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No suprise really! Most Australians are only aware of the British Royals and The Danish Royals and have no idea other Monarchies exsit
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His Majesty King Harald V (R) and Queen Sonja of Norway are shown around the Australian National Maritime Museum in Sydney, Australia, 24 February 2015. King Harald and Queen Sonja are on an officials visit to Australia.

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Opened seminar on Antarctica

His Majesty the King opened Antarctica seminar at the Australian National Maritime Museum today. The second day of the King and Queen's state visit takes place in Australia's largest city, Sydney.
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And still no mention of this visit in the major media outlets. This visit simply isn't making the news down here.
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I'm glad TRH have had a chance to have a good look at Sydney Harbour. It's very beautiful.
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And still no mention of this visit in the major media outlets. This visit simply isn't making the news down here.

They are very lovely people, but I doubt they would make news here either. Your Head of State is a foreign person who lives in a different country, so no fancy State Dinners, etc. I think it was a break from the cold.
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The Governor-General hosts fancy State Dinners if they are scheduled as part of a State Visit. It is irrelevant that the Queen does not live here. We dont have a constitutionally or legal defined head of state. I prefer to call the Queen the Queen, and the Governor-General the Governor-General. Either of them can be described, if necessary, as functioning as head of state depending on the circumstances. The Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia does not help clarify the situation by the interesting implications of Section 61, which states that the executive power of the Commonwealth is vested in the Queen and is exercisable by the Governor-General as the Queens representative, and extends to the execution and maintenance of this Constitution, and of the laws of the Commonwealth.

If the Queen moved to Canberra permanently, we would still need a Governor-General to carry out the functions assigned specifically to him by the Constitution, such as his role in the Federal Executive Council. It is this separation between power vested and power exercisable that gives the Governor-General the authority to act without consulting the Queen. But the Queen still has the upper hand because she can sack the Governor-General. It also means that any discussion on Australias head of state is likely to get stuck in a never-ending loop.

Back to our royal visitors. I'm having great difficulty remembering more than a handful of State Visits that made it onto the evening news. The President of Ukraine was here last year, who knew? Not I. Unless it's a State Visit from one the Great Powers, as they used to be called, it will not make the news here. As for Norway, a brief glance at NRK and Aftenposten suggests that the Norwegian media is as indifferent to the visit as is the Australian media, though there is some coverage if you dig deep enough. But media attention is only one aspect of a State Visit. The main point is the personal encounters at the numerous engagements undertaken by the visitors. This is what will help maintain a good relationship between the Kingdom of Norway and the Commonwealth of Australia.

Kongeparet fr kritikk for fremme norsk vpenindustri - Nyheter, tv og radio fra hele verden - NRK.no

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