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Old 07-31-2016, 11:16 AM
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Thank you, Tatiana Maria. I am not very familiar with the Japanese constitution. Could you please elaborate on why it would be technically difficult to enable an abdication without violating the constitution ?
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Old 07-31-2016, 11:24 AM
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I think if the Emperor feel it's time for him to step down over health reasons and due to him wanting to pass on his responsibilities to his son, I think the Japanese Government and people should allow him to do so.

Abdication is no longer a bad thing. It's becoming acceptable for Monarchs to step down when they feel it's time to do so.
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:12 PM
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Thank you, Tatiana Maria. I am not very familiar with the Japanese constitution. Could you please elaborate on why it would be technically difficult to enable an abdication without violating the constitution ?
I believe this to be a good summary:

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Article 4 of the Constitution stipulates, "The Emperor shall perform only such acts in matters of state as are provided for in this Constitution and he shall not have powers related to government." [...] If the Emperor were to publicly express his intention to abdicate and if the government were to move to revise the Imperial House Law and relevant rules by complying with his intention, questions could be raised over whether the Emperor had in fact influenced politics.
Gov't carefully handling Emperor abdication issue out of consideration for Constitution - The Mainichi


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Old 07-31-2016, 01:04 PM
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I think that it depends on the particular country. In the UK, for example, the monarch anointed as well as crowned. As such, it's literally a sacred obligation to reign for life, which is something Her Majesty understood and accepted at the time. In Japan's case, I'd expect that the idea of the Emperor's divinity, while no longer constitutional, would still have quite an effect on the way people perceive him. Plus, if his abdication requires a change in the post-war constitution, that's a huge thing.


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Abdication is no longer a bad thing. It's becoming acceptable for Monarchs to step down when they feel it's time to do so.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:18 PM
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Changing the Constitution will not be necessary. The only constitutional article that bears on the imperial succession is:

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Article 2. The Imperial Throne shall be dynastic and succeeded to in accordance with the Imperial House Law passed by the Diet.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:23 PM
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So it's just a matter of the Diet making a change in the law? Seems simple enough.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:54 PM
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It seems to me it's more a question of the willingness to make a change. Any change...
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Old 07-31-2016, 02:24 PM
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I think that it depends on the particular country. In the UK, for example, the monarch anointed as well as crowned. As such, it's literally a sacred obligation to reign for life, which is something Her Majesty understood and accepted at the time. In Japan's case, I'd expect that the idea of the Emperor's divinity, while no longer constitutional, would still have quite an effect on the way people perceive him. Plus, if his abdication requires a change in the post-war constitution, that's a huge thing.
We all know about a Monarchs dedication to duty and the people, but the reality of life really don't care much a person's dedication to anything. If health and well being becomes an issue, then the person have no other choice but to step aside or completely step down from their jobs.

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Japan's emperor 'may speak about his future as early as Aug 8', East Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times
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‘Graceful Exit’: Japan’s Emperor Wants to Abdicate, But It’s Not That Easy
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It seems to me it's more a question of the willingness to make a change. Any change...
That would be very accurate.
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Old 08-03-2016, 02:30 PM
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I guess Emperor Akihito is planning to announce his retirement.
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Old 08-05-2016, 05:24 AM
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Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is considering releasing some comments after Emperor Akihito’s widely expected video message Monday, as speculation grows about his potential abdication, sources close to the plan said.

The comments, most likely to take the form of a statement, will reflect Abe’s personal feelings about the Emperor’s thoughts and will not have Cabinet approval, they said Thursday. The Imperial Household Agency announced on Friday that the Emperor will deliver a video message on Monday.
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In addition to TV and radio, the Emperor’s video will be made available on the agency’s website together with the full Japanese text and an English translation, as the Emperor has been keen to deliver messages to people overseas as well, they said.
Full article: Abe may release comments after Emperor's video message | The Japan Times

ETA: According to Asahi, the video message will delivered at 3pm on August 8th.
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Old 08-06-2016, 06:46 AM
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In a two-day telephone survey from Wednesday to Thursday, 85.7 percent of respondents said they would accept the Emperors abdication, 10.8 percent said they favored the status quo and 3.5 percent said they did not know or gave no answer.
Asked whether the Emperor has too many official duties, 89.5 percent agreed, 6.1 percent disagreed and 4.4 percent said they did not know or gave no answer.
67% want review of Imperial Household system to allow Emperor to abdicate: poll - The Mainichi
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Some 67 percent of respondents in a recent Mainichi Shimbun opinion poll called for a review of the Imperial Household system to allow the Emperor to abdicate, well above the 22 percent who answered that the matter should be approached with caution.
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When asked in a previous survey in July how the government should respond to the wishes of the Emperor about abdication, 45 percent called for swift reform of the system and 30 percent answered that the issue should be cautiously considered.
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:30 PM
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Thanks! It's good to know there's public support for the change.

A Nikkei poll reports 80% of respondents do not believe abdication is unconstitutional. Also, 77% believe abdication should be allowed.


I looked around briefly and while the Dutch constitution has abdication provisions, I couldn't find anything about abdication in Luxembourg's constitution. Certainly, Japan is different with the Imperial Household Law.
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:54 PM
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We all know about a Monarchs dedication to duty and the people, but the reality of life really don't care much a person's dedication to anything. If health and well being becomes an issue, then the person have no other choice but to step aside or completely step down from their jobs.

Laws must reflect reality.
its not a job, it is a role that many royals believe is for life. The queen does not believe that she could ever give up being queen. if she's unable to fulfil the duties, she could have a regent to do so, but she will be queen as long as she's alive.
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Old 08-07-2016, 10:57 AM
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If the pope can retire, why can't Japan's elderly emperor? The Asahi Shimbun

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Conservatives have already raised objections to changing the law to let Akihito step down, citing problems ranging from his title and possible strife with a new emperor, to worry the next step would be letting women succeed and pass on the throne, anathema to traditionalists.

Even more, conservatives fear that a debate over the imperial family's future would divert political energy from Abe's push to revise the postwar, pacifist Constitution, which they see as a symbol of defeat, but admirers consider the guarantor of Japan's democracy.

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Still, public opinion in favor of letting him abdicate could sway the debate if the emperor's appeal is emotionally moving, some experts said, noting that while many Japanese find the royals irrelevant, others are fond of Akihito himself.

"Depending on how the TV appeal is done, it could stir up public opinion," said Naotaka Kimizuka, an expert in European monarchies at Kanto Gakuin University. "Or, people could lose interest and things will go as Abe's administration prefers."
Emperor to speak 10 minutes in message - The Japan News
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In addition to discussing himself, the Emperor is likely to address the long history of the system in which an emperor symbolizes the state. According to sources, the Emperor asked Imperial Household Agency officials to study not only reigning emperors but also how joko, or retired emperors, spent their time after relinquishing the throne.
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If the Emperor abdicate as will be its title?
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If the Emperor abdicate as will be its title?
If the government and the Diet allow the Emperor to abdicate, they will decide on his title. Historically, abdicated emperors took the title of 太上天皇 (daijō tennō) or 上皇 (jōkō), which is translated as Grand Emperor in the media.

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But the characters 太上 actually imply something more like higher or senior. Ti 太 is found in the titles of the Empress Dowager Kōtaigō and Grand Empress Dowager Tai-Kōtaigō and comes from the Chinese radical 大 d - big, great (D Qīng The Great Qing was the name of the last dynasty to rule China).
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The Japan Times ‏@japantimes: BREAKING: Emperor Akihito implies will to abdicate, citing concerns over his age, though avoids direct reference in video address.
Japan's Emperor Akihito to make rare public address

Japan's Emperor Akihito is set to deliver his second ever televised address to the public.
Last month, Japanese media reported that the emperor wanted to step down in coming years, which would be unprecedented in modern Japan.
He is not expected to use the word "abdicate" because he is barred from political involvement.
The palace said on Friday he would be speaking about his "feelings regarding his duties as a symbol of the nation".
There is no legal provision for abdication in Japanese law, which would mean a law change would be required.
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