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Old 06-07-2016, 05:12 PM
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Another controversy is coming up.

Trods protester: Dronningen skal sælge Danmark i Tyrkiet

As you may recall M&F's visit to Saudi Arabia in particular caused quite a bit of controversy and still does for that matter. It dented the image of M&F, unfairly.
It doesn't help that the former Foreign Minister, Martin Lidegaard, in the former government has said that he knew nothing about the plans about sending M&F to Arabia. - That despite the serious newspaper Berlingske having revealed that meetings on very high civil-service level regarding M&F's taking part in the visit took place several times and they they discussed that there might be a controversy.
It is next to unthinkable that the Foreign Minister, the Minister for Trade and the Prime Minister were not informed. But politicians are politicians...

Anyway, later this year QMII will go on an official visit to Turkey, where she will naturally meet with President Erdogan.
Amazingly the Parliament in general think that's a great idea, despite the fact the Erdogan is perhaps not the most popular person in Europe right now and his politics and involvement in the Syrian mess is something no one appears to wish to talk about. That he seems intent on turning Turkey away from it's secular core values is another matter, not to mention him opressing journalists and critics, not only in Turkey but outside Turkey as well.
But in the holy name of export, it seems a great idea to embarrass QMII. And the politicians we have are unlikely to support QMII much against the criticism there will come.
I half hope QMII will go down with the "flu", but then they'll probably embarrass M&F instead.

Good grief!

- There have been loads of interesting articles, also in the more serious papers, about the DRF in the past couple of weeks.
I haven't written about here on TRF, partly because I felt burned out and partly because the TRF has changed IMO.
There does not appear to be that much interest among the TRF-readers for hard back-ground info any more. Which has made me wonder whether it is time to move board.
Pictures, clips and fashion is working great here on TRF. And that's fine and fun.
But summaries, translations and background info would perhaps be more of interest elsewhere.
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Old 06-07-2016, 05:43 PM
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thank you Muhler

Was there not a state visit from Turkey to Denmark a couple of years ago?

Hard stance for the DRF if the government keeps arranging these trips. I guess they have to bare it. Although it is getting harder and harder to find countries with little faults
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Old 06-07-2016, 06:23 PM
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There was. An official state visit. That caused some but not too much criticism but President Erdogan is certainly pushing the boundaries at the moment!
Turkey's economy is not that good anymore. Tourism has been reduced with at least 30 % (unofficially more like 50-60%) and that's serious!
And because he personally has p*ssed of the Russians Turkey is now subjected to a trade embargo.
That Erdogan and his family also seem to be involved in the oil-trade with ISIS is not particularly endearing either. But no one is talking about that, least of all USA and NATO.
That Erdogan also oppress free press in Turkey, by imprisoning journalists and critics, while at the same time mingling constantly in what is said and going on in Europe, including insisting on a German satirist being prosecuted in Germany for a satire (admittedly not very funny satire) on German TV against Erdogan is also considered pretty annoying.
That Erdogan is also pushing the limits in regards to an agreement in handling migrant going through Turkey to EU has by no mean endeared him to anyone!

I'd say if it hasn't been for Chancellor Merkel, the EU would very well have torn up that agreement and closed the borders to Turkey. - That can still happen though. And the politicians doing that would have very few problems with the voters about that!
So all in all Erdogan may be steering Turkey towards an economic and political disaster.
So far he has annoyed EU, Russia, Iran and if Trump become the next US president he may have lost an ally there as well.

So personally I don't see why DK, and certainly not QMII, should suck up to such a man.
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Old 06-07-2016, 07:05 PM
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Another controversy is coming up.

Trods protester: Dronningen skal sælge Danmark i Tyrkiet

As you may recall M&F's visit to Saudi Arabia in particular caused quite a bit of controversy and still does for that matter. It dented the image of M&F, unfairly.
It doesn't help that the former Foreign Minister, Martin Lidegaard, in the former government has said that he knew nothing about the plans about sending M&F to Arabia. - That despite the serious newspaper Berlingske having revealed that meetings on very high civil-service level regarding M&F's taking part in the visit took place several times and they they discussed that there might be a controversy.
It is next to unthinkable that the Foreign Minister, the Minister for Trade and the Prime Minister were not informed. But politicians are politicians...

Anyway, later this year QMII will go on an official visit to Turkey, where she will naturally meet with President Erdogan.
Amazingly the Parliament in general think that's a great idea, despite the fact the Erdogan is perhaps not the most popular person in Europe right now and his politics and involvement in the Syrian mess is something no one appears to wish to talk about. That he seems intent on turning Turkey away from it's secular core values is another matter, not to mention him opressing journalists and critics, not only in Turkey but outside Turkey as well.
But in the holy name of export, it seems a great idea to embarrass QMII. And the politicians we have are unlikely to support QMII much against the criticism there will come.
I half hope QMII will go down with the "flu", but then they'll probably embarrass M&F instead.

Good grief!

- There have been loads of interesting articles, also in the more serious papers, about the DRF in the past couple of weeks.
I haven't written about here on TRF, partly because I felt burned out and partly because the TRF has changed IMO.
There does not appear to be that much interest among the TRF-readers for hard back-ground info any more. Which has made me wonder whether it is time to move board.
Pictures, clips and fashion is working great here on TRF. And that's fine and fun.
But summaries, translations and background info would perhaps be more of interest elsewhere.
Dear Muhler, your posts make this board worth reading! Endless commentaries about dresses and jewelry are, quite frankly, boring I think if we were to hold a Muhler poll you would win hands down. If not, wither thou goest, this history nerd (because that is why I like to follow royalty) will follow
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:38 AM
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I agree with everything Gerry says. It's your posts that make this board worth visiting - sorry I don't post often enough to make that clear. I will try to do better in future But if you do go elsewhere please let us know so we can follow you.
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:46 AM
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Queen Margrethe II & Prince Henrik, Current Events Part 5: November 2015 -

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There was. An official state visit. That caused some but not too much criticism but President Erdogan is certainly pushing the boundaries at the moment!
Turkey's economy is not that good anymore. Tourism has been reduced with at least 30 % (unofficially more like 50-60%) and that's serious!
And because he personally has p*ssed of the Russians Turkey is now subjected to a trade embargo.
That Erdogan and his family also seem to be involved in the oil-trade with ISIS is not particularly endearing either. But no one is talking about that, least of all USA and NATO.
That Erdogan also oppress free press in Turkey, by imprisoning journalists and critics, while at the same time mingling constantly in what is said and going on in Europe, including insisting on a German satirist being prosecuted in Germany for a satire (admittedly not very funny satire) on German TV against Erdogan is also considered pretty annoying.
That Erdogan is also pushing the limits in regards to an agreement in handling migrant going through Turkey to EU has by no mean endeared him to anyone!

I'd say if it hasn't been for Chancellor Merkel, the EU would very well have torn up that agreement and closed the borders to Turkey. - That can still happen though. And the politicians doing that would have very few problems with the voters about that!
So all in all Erdogan may be steering Turkey towards an economic and political disaster.
So far he has annoyed EU, Russia, Iran and if Trump become the next US president he may have lost an ally there as well.

So personally I don't see why DK, and certainly not QMII, should suck up to such a man.

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Old 06-08-2016, 08:52 AM
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Another controversy is coming.

- There have been loads of interesting articles, also in the more serious papers, about the DRF in the past couple of weeks.
I haven't written about here on TRF, partly because I felt burned out and partly because the TRF has changed IMO.
There does not appear to be that much interest among the TRF-readers for hard back-ground info any more. Which has made me wonder whether it is time to move board.
Pictures, clips and fashion is working great here on TRF. And that's fine and fun.
But summaries, translations and background info would perhaps be more of interest elsewhere.
Dear Muhler, please continue posting.
I always read your posts with great interest.
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Old 06-08-2016, 09:14 AM
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Thanks for your answers.

As I believe this is a general problem I decided to start a thread here: An appeal from a poster.

Which also explains in more details what I mean.
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Old 06-08-2016, 09:53 AM
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Within the last hour, I read an online report that President Erdogan made a speech where he said that working women were ''half persons'' and should completely devote their lives to marriage and motherhood. He also came out against all forms of birth control. Since Queen Margarethe is very much a working woman, and Denmark is a very progressive and liberal country, I can imagine this visit will have some awkward moments.

I also felt that Frederik and Mary were criticized unfairly for their trip to Saudi Arabia, but the world of international politics and diplomacy can be murky at times.

Please stay, Muhler. I have learned so much from your posts.
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:33 AM
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Thanks.

That doesn't surprise me at all!
Erdogan seem intent on rolling back decades of progress in Turkey, but there are lots of Turks, not to mention minorities like the Kurds, who are not going to take that lying down. He is destabilizing Turkey and no one needs that!
He is IMO a dangerous man and absolutely not worth supporting.

Alas, we have here in DK a Parliament consisting of mediocre politicians who jump when the export business tell them. No matter that some of the same businesses would be perfectly happy to sell chains to slave-traders.
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Old 06-10-2016, 05:26 AM
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Queen Margrethe received the President of Poland Andrzej Duda for a meeting yesterday, June 9.


** kongehuset.dk: Modtagelse af Polens præsident ** prezydent.pl gallery ** translation **
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Old 06-10-2016, 07:14 AM
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Interesting! Dronning Margrethe overrasker: Ingen stor guldbryllupsfest | BILLED-BLADET

The court has announced that the Regent Couple will not celebrate their golden anniversary next publicly.
Instead they will mark their anniversary in private. And presumably much more quietly.

The obvious reason for this is of course QMII and PH's age.

And very appropriately here is a gallery of loving moments between PH and QMII: http://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelige...g-prins-henrik
Today is their 49th anniversary.

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Old 06-10-2016, 08:06 AM
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Interesting! Dronning Margrethe overrasker: Ingen stor guldbryllupsfest | BILLED-BLADET

The court has announced that the Regent Couple will not celebrate their golden anniversary next publicly.
Instead they will mark their anniversary in private. And presumably much more quietly.

The obvious reason for this is of course QMII and PH's age.

And very appropriately here is a gallery of loving moments between PH and QMII: SE BILLEDERNE: Kærlige øjeblikke mellem dronning Margrethe og prins Henrik | BILLED-BLADET
Today is their 49th anniversary.

Thanks, Iceflower.
For me this decision is okay. Although I would have been very pleased to see them celebrating this milestone!
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Old 06-10-2016, 10:49 AM
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Interesting! Dronning Margrethe overrasker: Ingen stor guldbryllupsfest | BILLED-BLADET

The court has announced that the Regent Couple will not celebrate their golden anniversary next publicly.
Instead they will mark their anniversary in private. And presumably much more quietly.

The obvious reason for this is of course QMII and PH's age.

And very appropriately here is a gallery of loving moments between PH and QMII: SE BILLEDERNE: Kærlige øjeblikke mellem dronning Margrethe og prins Henrik | BILLED-BLADET
Today is their 49th anniversary.

Thanks, Iceflower.
I'm not sure I buy the reason
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Old 06-10-2016, 12:15 PM
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Well, you are not the only one...

The tabloids have seized the story and the angling is that the Regent Couple has basically cancelled the celebration of their anniversary - even though there were AFAIK no actual plans for public celebrations.

And the reasons that are being speculated on are:
Awareness in regards to spending taxpayer money on a party.
That the marriage is on the rocks.
And/or that PH is so gaga, he might either not show up or once again bring up the topic about not being king.

Had it not been for PH's odd retirement I would have dismissed these theories and pointed to the age of PH and QMII.
That is still IMO the most plausible explanation, but a part of me admittedly can't help considering whether there really is something in the above theories. (The one about money being the IMO least interesting).

The Trine Villemann women has been wheeled out again, and yet again she is speaking half-truths and distorting facts to suit her view.
I've dueled with her years ago elsewhere several times, and she can't stand her ground if someone goes for her throat. Then she sulks and back out. But the chances of Danish journalists doing that is next to non-existent, because that requires that you read up on the subject. And only the very best journalists do that nowadays. (For Danish members: I would pay serious money to see her in the clutches of Clement Kjersgaard. Just fifteen minutes would do! )

’Henrik er et løsgående missil’ - her er ekspertens tre årsager til aflysning af kongelig guldbryllupsfest
Margrethe og Henrik overrasker: Vil ikke fejre guldbryllup med danskerne
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Old 06-10-2016, 12:28 PM
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hmm interesting indeed.

the DRF also have a post on today's anniversary and a gallery of the wedding
Regentparrets bryllupsdag | Kongehuset
"H. M. The Queen and HRH Prince can June 10, 2017 celebrate golden wedding. Based on a series of inquiries on how gold wedding will be marked, it can be stated that the Royal Couple wants to hold gold wedding in private."

Hopefully we get a big family picture at least.
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Old 06-10-2016, 01:12 PM
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Lene Balleby has elaborated to BT: Kongehuset til BT: Derfor dropper vi guldbryllupsfesten

She is quoted for saying: "It's a natural consequence of the Prince having retired and no longer taking part in official events in the same way he has done before.
The Regent Couple have decided that their golden anniversary next year is to be celebrated in private".

- She seems to have asked, because a short time ago she said to Ekstra Bladet that she did not know of reasons for not celebrating in public and that she knew of no details about how it would be celebrated then, if celebrated at all.
She just confirmed that a private celebration is just that, a private celebration.
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Old 06-16-2016, 11:22 AM
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QMII has at a press conference aboard Dannebrog today confirmed that the family intends to celebrate their golden anniversary at Chateau Cayx.

Nu fortæller dronning Margrethe om guldbrylluppet: Sådan skal det fejres | BILLED-BLADET

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Old 06-16-2016, 12:34 PM
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I think there will not be public events celebrating the birthday wedding as it will be privat and celebrated at the Chateau Cayx
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Yesterday, June 24, Queen Margrethe handed out the Queen's Watch again:



** kongehuset.dk: Overrækkelse af 'Dronningens Ur' **


** BB: Dronning Margrethe overrakte ur til ung garder ** translation **
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