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He may have a point there. Henrik had two sons, Joachim had two sons, chances are this second child of Frederik and Mary will be another son.
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Does it work that way?
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The father determines the sex of the child. Women have two X chromosomes; Men have an X and a Y. Mothers can only give X chromosomes to their children through the egg; whereas fathers can give their children either an X or a Y chromosome through the sperm.
Men produce both X and Y sperm but have a tendency to produce more of one than another and this tendency is inherited.
Since Henrik fathered two sons, Joachim fathered two sons, and Frederik fathered one son with no daughters yet, it may be that Frederik and Joachim inherited a strong tendency from their father to produce Y chromosome sperm.
The men haven't fathered too many children and other factors can come into play so I may be wrong. Prince Claus of the Netherlands fathered 3 sons and no daughters but all his sons have only fathered daughters.
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The men haven't fathered too many children and other factors can come into play so I may be wrong. Prince Claus of the Netherlands fathered 3 sons and no daughters but all his sons have only fathered daughters.
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And 1 boy, Count Claus-Casimir
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And 1 boy, Count Claus-Casimir
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Ah I forgot about Claus Casimir. Thanks Princess Robijn. 
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03-12-2007, 01:57 PM
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The father determines the sex of the child. Women have two X chromosomes; Men have an X and a Y. Mothers can only give X chromosomes to their children through the egg; whereas fathers can give their children either an X or a Y chromosome through the sperm.
Men produce both X and Y sperm but have a tendency to produce more of one than another and this tendency is inherited.
Since Henrik fathered two sons, Joachim fathered two sons, and Frederik fathered one son with no daughters yet, it may be that Frederik and Joachim inherited a strong tendency from their father to produce Y chromosome sperm.
The men haven't fathered too many children and other factors can come into play so I may be wrong. Prince Claus of the Netherlands fathered 3 sons and no daughters but all his sons have only fathered daughters.
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Yes, it´s hard to say, because they all have only two boys. Even Henrik has only one brother (I though couldn´t find anywhere informations on the children of his brother Etienne...how many does he have and what sex??) Maybe there would have been a girl, if they all would have tried it tree times  And Joachim has actually still the chance. I guess, if he would marry Marie, they would have children together.
And a little bit it is also dependent from the woman...after all her eggs have to accept the little swimmers And there are certain theories on sperms with the Y being faster, but shorter living...so that the time of   around the ovulation is said to play a role. So I would say the chance, that Mary´s little roomer is a girl isn´t completely excluded. And I´ve a feeling, this time it´s indeed a girl. She is looking so different (old midwife tales...you know  )
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Yes, you're right Lena, two children per father is really not enuogh. I only mention it because Henrik's descendents include 5 boys and no girls. The number 5 seems high.
I knew of one family that didn't have a girl for 5 generations. Finally when a baby girl was born, it was such big news that it was in all the regional papers.
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03-12-2007, 03:02 PM
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Yes, you're right Lena, two children per father is really not enuogh. I only mention it because Henrik's descendents include 5 boys and no girls. The number 5 seems high.
I knew of one family that didn't have a girl for 5 generations. Finally when a baby girl was born, it was such big news that it was in all the regional papers.
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Prince Henrik have sisters
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Prince Henrik have sisters
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Yes? What are their names and how are they living. I could only find a little bit of information on Etienne (and this interview he had done with Mary and Frederik)
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The men haven't fathered too many children and other factors can come into play so I may be wrong. Prince Claus of the Netherlands fathered 3 sons and no daughters but all his sons have only fathered daughters.
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And Prince Claus was the only son and had 6 sisters.
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03-13-2007, 04:47 AM
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QMII and Henrik did try for a third child; Queen Margrethe had surgery years back and the couple was asked directly by the press if they wished for a third child and they said that of course they did (they clearly didn't like the direct question I remember but at least they answered it truthfully).
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Are there any pictures of Prince Hendrik's family? Anything would be welcome as I only 'know' his parents from the weddingpicture in 1967.
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I'm currently trying to produce a family tree of the Monpezat family, but have some difficulties, mainly because there isn't much online of the Monpezat family, and the little there is has a lot of holes and inconclusions in it.
Currently I have listed 9 children for André and Renée: Françoise, Henri, Anne-Marie (died young and isn't mentioned in most family trees), Joseph (or Josef, died when he was 20), Thérèse (only a birth year is mentioned although I haven't spotted the name on the Danish guest lists, but because they only mention the spouses name it's likely she is somewhere on the guest lists), Etienne, Jean-Baptiste (or Jean Baptist), Catherine (or Cathrine, she's the nun and she's mentioned on both the wedding of Mary & Frederik as well as the wedding of Joachim & Marie) and Maurille.
Is there anyone out there with more information? Please share! Also a guest list to the wedding of Margrethe and Henri could be helpful. Thanks a lot!
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I've heard once that Prince Christian is very similar to Prince Henrik's (or grand) father. I'd like to see if it's true.
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I've heard once that Prince Christian is very similar to Prince Henrik's (or grand) father. I'd like to see if it's true.
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i think prince christian resembles prince frederik and Queen Margrethe
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07-01-2009, 08:37 AM
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At the moment of the wedding , it was told that Henri de Montpezat's mother was a widow and married le Comte de Montpezat who gave her name to Renée's children.
Could someone tell me if this is correct or not. Tkanks a lot
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07-01-2009, 05:46 PM
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I also think Frederick's children resemble his side of the family more than Mary's. Isabella looks just like PHenrik and I think that Christian does as well at the moment.
Later, their faces may become a little longer, and they'll look more like others. We'll have to wait and see. The coloration is very much like Frederick's parents, light eyes and complexion.
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Henrik's wikipedia page says:
"Henrik was born in Talence, Gironde, France, the son of Count André de Laborde de Monpezat ( Mont-de-Marsan, Landes, 6 May 1907 – Le Cayrou, Abbas, Lot, 23 February 1998) and his wife (m. religiously Cahors, Lot, 6 January 1934 and civilly Cahors, Lot, 22 January 1948), the former Renée Doursenot ( Périgueux, Dordogne, 26 October 1908 – Le Cayrou, Abbas, Lot, 11 February 2001), who was previously married firstly civilly in Paris on 29 September 1928 and divorced at the Tribunal Civil Français de Saigon on 21 September 1940 Louis Leuret ( Châteauneuf-sur-Loire, Loiret, 18 March 1881 – Saigon, South Vietnam, 29 December 1962)."
Which makes it sound like his mother had not divorced her first husband when she married his father, and that they weren't married civilly until Henrik was 13, which doesn't really make sense because I think that sort of "scandalous" background would have been an issue when he and Margrethe were married. Is this information correct? It is, after all, wikipedia. 
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Maura , You see this is confused ,i remember they told a lot about this at the time of the wedding. But Wikipedia is not a bible. Perhaps a Danish member of the RF knows
this exactly ? Thanks for the information
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07-02-2009, 09:50 AM
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Maura , You see this is confused ,i remember they told a lot about this at the time of the wedding. But Wikipedia is not a bible. Perhaps a Danish member of the RF knows
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I must say that as a Dane it´s news to me to learn that Prince Henriks mother has been marriede to 2 diffrent men.
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