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Old 08-03-2017, 09:56 AM
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Prince Henrik and his plans for his final resting place

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H.K.H. Prins Henrik begraves ikke i Roskilde Domkirke | Kongehuset

This is official from the court. PH does not wish to be buried next to his wife at Roskilde Cathedral.
He will however be buried elsewhere in Denmark, the location is yet to be disclosed.

There have been rumors for the past few days that PH wished to be buried in France, but so far I've opted not to mention it, as it would be speculation.

QMII has known about PH's decision for some time and is accepting the decision.

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This is interesting!

There have been speculations for a while that the Regent Couple have de facto separated. This will add credence to that notion.
Unless there is a very good reason as to why, why will he not be buried next to his wife?
Especially since a pretty expensive and elaborate sarcophagus is being made for them, so that they can be interred together inside Roskilde Cathedral.

At present I can only conclude that there is now a complete break-up between PH and QMII.
I cannot help speculating that this is a kind of pay-back if you will from PH aimed at QMII.
This is going to hit the news big time here in DK!

The sympathy PH got from the public, be that fairly silent, from his recent surgery, will be gone by the end of this day.
It will be seen as PH once again letting down his wife, and the Monarch.
It is very likely also to be seen as another, shall we say, fit by PH.
Whatever, unless there are very good reasons for this decision, PH's popularity is going to drop like a rock!

It will also rekindle ongoing speculations about QMII abdicating, now going from "she has deserved it" to "perhaps it's better if M&F take over".
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:59 AM
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He doesn't want to be buried next to his wife? Wow, I don't even know what to say.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:01 AM
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Strange decision. But why is this announced now and not when the time has come?
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:07 AM
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If this happens I think it's absolutely awful, quite frankly. IF it turns out that Prince Henrik doesn't wish to be buried in Denmark that is a slap in the face to the nation with which he's been associated all his married life, the Danish monarchy as well as to his wife and family, IMHO. I hope he changes his mind.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:21 AM
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Wow indeed!

A fresh comment from the court: Utilfreds Prins Henrik vil ikke begraves sammen med dronning Margrethe | BT Danmark - www.bt.dk

Lene Balleby says to BT: "It is correct that Prince Henrik has decided that he will not be buried at Rskilde Cathedral, as it was planned.
It is no secret that the Prince for many years has been unhappy with his role and the title has been given in the Danish monarchy.
That dissatisfaction has in later years taken up more and more room. For the Prince the decision not to be interred next to the Queen is a natural consequence of him not being treated as an equal in relation to his spouse - by not getting the title and functions, which he has wished for.
The Prince love Denmark and has worked for Denmark for more than 50 years. As such the Prince will be buried in Denmark, but the details are not yet in place.
Queen Margrete has for a longer period known about the decision of the Prince and has accepted/concurred with it".

Q: How ill this affect the relationship between the Prince and the Queen?
LB: "It is of curse a decision that the Queen would rather have done without. But the Queen has known about it for a long period of time, so it does come as a surprise. It does however not mean that there will be changes in for example the Regent Couple spending their vacations together in France".

Q: Doesn't the Prince's decision mean that the Regent Couple in reality are divorced?
LB: "No, it is not a divorce at all. - It will have no consequences for the functions of the Queen".

Q: Why hasn't the DRF simply listened to Prince Henrik's wishes?
LB: That has in fact been listened, reacted and adapted under way. The Prince has for example been given his own court, but in regards to the question about title, we in Denmark have decided to follow the European tradition which has been applied in both England and Holland".

LB: "Bjørn Nørgaard (who made the sarquphagus) has vreated a work of art which reflects the common work by the Regent Couple over 50 years - regardless as to whether the Prince is lying there or not.
The Queen will still be laid to rest under the sarquphagus. Inseperately from this is also the marriage to the Prince. And that is very important: The Regent Couple's professional work/life and their marriage are two different things".

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Wow, and one more wow!

The public verdict will be hard! He's going to get a collective "f*ck off to France then and stay there" by practically everyone!
I mean, this is bad for him! He got a lot of heat when he went off to France years ago, he got a lot of heat when he let down his wife at her birthday, but that'll be nothing against what he has in store now!
The whole sympathy will be on QMII's side and he is very much in danger of the whole tribe turning its back on him. And that's it. If that happens, you're out.

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Strange decision. But why is this announced now and not when the time has come?
Because a magazine wrote about it this week.

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If this happens I think it's absolutely awful, quite frankly. IF it turns out that Prince Henrik doesn't wish to be buried in Denmark that is a slap in the face to the nation with which he's been associated all his married life, the Danish monarchy as well as to his wife and family, IMHO. I hope he changes his mind.
If you read Lene Balleby's (pretty frank) as answers to BT in my previous posts, it seems to me that he has been given time to change his mind.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:25 AM
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Wow! That is low.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:27 AM
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The hate for his position as consort must be so enormous that he even makes public while alive that he doesnt want to be buried next to his wife.

I wish Margrethe would divorce him to create facts as well.

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The public verdict will be hard! He's going to get a collective "f*ck off to France then and stay there" by practically everyone!
I mean, this is bad for him! He got a lot of heat when he went off to France years ago, he got a lot of heat when he let down his wife at her birthday, but that'll be nothing against what he has in store now!
The whole sympathy will be on QMII's side and he is very much in danger of the whole tribe turning its back on him. And that's it. If that happens, you're out.
And rightly so. What a jerk!
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:28 AM
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He seems determined to take his 'not being king' chip on the shoulder all the way to the grave
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:29 AM
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Oh my.....
Poor Queen M.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:31 AM
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As you can imagine this is headline news here in DK!

So far only BT has quotes from the court.

No doubt more will surface, but I don't think much more will be said by Lene Balleby than what she has already said.
Now it's the political comments that are important, not those by the Prime Minister (there is not much he will say), but the leading opposition party, the Social Democrats, and the Danish People's Party, these two parties will have the clearest indication of the political view of the Parliament.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:31 AM
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So he won't even contemplate being 'unequal' to his wife after death. Poor Queen Margrethe.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:33 AM
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Because a magazine wrote about it this week.
They don't need to comment about everything the magazines write.
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As you can imagine this is headline news here in DK!

So far only BT has quotes from the court.

No doubt more will surface, but I don't think much more will be said by Lene Balleby than what she has already said.
Now it's the political comments that are important, not those by the Prime Minister (there is not much he will say), but the leading opposition party, the Social Democrats, and the Danish People's Party, these two parties will have the clearest indication of the political view of the Parliament.
Considering that Lene said something, what she said and how she said it - thanks for the info Muhler - speaks volumes of how annoyed everyone is with him. He's a loose cannon, even down to the grave.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:34 AM
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The hate for his position as consort must be so enormous that he even makes public while alive that he doesnt want to be buried next to his wife.

I wish Margrethe would divorce him to create facts as well.
She's not going to do that.

But the chance of QMII abdicating (because this takes up so much space and detracts from the DRF, even from QMII herself) next year when Frederik turns 50 has IMO estimation gone up from around 10 % to 40-45 % and rising. - It all depends on how this is dealt with and whether PH is going to make another spectacle of himself.

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They don't need to comment about everything the magazines write.
I guess the magazine had a very credible source. Perhaps even PH himself?
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:35 AM
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The hate for his position as consort must be so enormous that he even makes public while alive that he doesnt want to be buried next to his wife.

I wish Margrethe would divorce him to create facts as well.
My thoughts as well. It's not only disrespectful towards her, but also the Danes. As small, unknown French Count, he could never have led the life he enjoyed the last 50 years.
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Henrik should now draw the line and not appear at family events anymore, at all. Every photoshoot he attends will now be seen as super hypocritical.

Chances are high that he will spoil Frederik's 50th birthday with his presence only.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:55 AM
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Well, should, repeat should QMII choose to abdicate next year then PH will go into permanent exile, that's for sure!
That would mean he is not even the patriarch anymore.

I also think he wouldn't show up when Frederik is declared king - not unless he wish to be boo'd at or pelted with rotten tomatoes.
Because that will be seen as PH having forced an otherwise deeply respected QMII to abdicate, - certainly before time.

For all I care PH can stay away next year when Frederik turns 50, and he probably will.

Personally speaking: I won't say I'm angry, but I sure feel let down on behalf of QMII, and I also feel the tribe has been let down by him. I'm more deeply disappointed. I'm turning my back on him.
PH being a devoted grandpa, good with children and an eccentric dresser, let alone all the work he has done for the past 50 years, that's out the window.
PH has openly elected to distance himself from not only his wife but also the DRF and slammed the door behind him.
He has deserted his wife! He has also let down the rest of his family, not least Frederik, whom he should have supported as much as he could.
I hope, that's actually an odd thing to say..., I hope what PH is doing is a result of a mental deterioration. But to be honest, I don't think so. This is simply a major flaw in his character and in that case: No understanding, no sympathy, just get lost... A cold, unemotional goodbye.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:58 AM
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She's not going to do that.

But the chance of QMII abdicating (because this takes up so much space and detracts from the DRF, even from QMII herself) next year when Frederik turns 50 has IMO estimation gone up from around 10 % to 40-45 % and rising. - It all depends on how this is dealt with and whether PH is going to make another spectacle of himself.


I hope this doesn't happen... I really hope her petulant and immature husband isn't the reason QMII abdicates (if it so happens). She has served her country wonderfully and deserves better than that.
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:01 AM
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Somehow i think it all this with his role as Consort has to do with age stubborness. It is often the cases with older persons that a certain Issue becomes more and more important and with age this increases more and more.
It is a problem that the RF and Royal Court don't seem to be able to have Prince Henrik under control in regards to Statements like this.
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:06 AM
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Poor Margrethe II her husband comes off as a self absorbed toad. I watched Prince Philip retire with dignity yesterday. From rumors and reports he bristled at his secondary role early in QE2's reign but he would never ever publicly (repeatedly) shame Her Majesty or the royal family in this way.
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