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Old 10-22-2012, 02:07 PM
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I know, this is pretty basic for most here, but some are not familiar with the little details of a monarchy, which is why I often write about the "obvious".
I thank you for it Muhler
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:07 AM
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You are most kind, Polyesco

Perhaps we should briefly go through the procedure of getting a medal.
You have been employed in the same company for say 40 years (I believe it's 40 years, but don't hang me). Your employer or the association your employer belongs to, will contact the relevant ministry, in this case either the Ministry of Employment or the Ministry of Commerce and recommend you for a medal for long and true service.
At the ministry they will check your papers just to make sure you really have been employed for 40 years. Ok, no problem. The recommendation is then passed on to the Chapter of the Order, where among others Joachim will have a look at the recommendation. At this level probably just a formality.
Your name is added on the list that is send to QMII for approval.

The big day of your anniversary comes, your are celebrated by co-workers and your boss. Your boss will give an appropriate speech and present you with the medal and later on take you out for a dinner. That's basically how the tradition is.
Incidentally after 25 years of employ, the first big day (no medal though), you will if you are a member of at least my union, get three days of extra holidays annually. I don't know off hand if you get more after 40 years.

Common curtesy dictates that you thank the Majesty for the medal at the next convenient public audience.
Again following tradition, your employer escorts you to Christiansborg, where the audiences take place. Here you will show up in your finest, wearing your medal and gloves. You present yourself and state your business and your name is added to the list of that day.
You will get a short briefing by an official at the court about the protocol and the discreet signal QMII will give you when it's time to leave.
The door is opened and you are introduced and walk into the room, where QMII stands alone in the middle of the room.
You walk up to her and shake hands while you bow/curtsey. The door is closed behind you, this is an audience alone with the Majesty. She will congratulate you and exchange a few words with you before giving you the sign to leave. You say goodbye and leave. No walking backwards all the way to the door here. I guess that's considered a little silly and perhaps too many have tripped over their own feet beforehand.
And that's it.

Your medal is your personal property and in contrast to an order it must not be returned upon your death.

Of course a lot of people are nervous and perplexed at these audiences so QMII has probably seen all sorts of weird behavior. One well known person here in DK, Jacob Haugaard, told about his audience with QMII after being elected for the Parliament. That went well, until it was time to leave. He just turned around in order to leave, but QMII stopped him: "But surely I'd like to say goodbye to you".
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:15 AM
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Translation of a Q&A in Billed Bladet #43, 2012.

Here a Pernille Koch asks:
I know this has been answered before, but my grandparents celebrate their diamond-anniversary on the 29th November. What must I do so that the will get a greeting from the Queen?

Jon Bloch Skipper replies:
You must do nothing else but looking forward to your grandparent's big day, because the court get the needed informations from the relevant authorities.
The Majesty will send her congratulations to married couples who have diamond (60 years), crown diamond (65), iron (70) and nuclear anniversary (75), just as all who celebrate their 100th birthday recieve a royal greeting.

- There is a picture of such a letter in the article. It simply reads:

Jane and John Doe.

On the occasion of your diamond anniversary I send my heartfelt (substitute with something similar in your own language) congratulations.

Signature.

Let's add a few more anniversaries as they are called and celebrated here in DK: Gold (50 years), silver (25 years) and copper (12½ years).

As a curiosum I can add that there is a very common phrase here in DK for describing neigherborhoods where the majority of the residents are middle aged: Silver anniversary neigherborhood.
Or where the majority have reached retirement age: Gold anniversary neigherborhood.
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:03 AM
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There was another public audience yesterday and this time QMII recieved 66 persons. 66 kvinder og mænd i audiens hos dronningen

If you've read one of the previous posts, then you know the drill.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:18 PM
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Tomorrow, Thursday, (presumably in the forenoon), the Minister for Culture, Elbæk, will go on the long drive to Amalienborg and inform Her Majesty about his resignation from the government. QMII will accept the resignation and thank the Minister for his services (even though he was, shall we say, not encouraged to stay).
A little later, the new minister for culture to be, (the name is not yet known, except that it will be a woman), will meet QMII and offer her service as minister. QMII will accept and congratulate the new minister, who will most likely be presented to the press at Amalienborg Square.

The official handover will take place at the Ministry for Culture and the now ex-minister, Elbæk, will be driven home for the last time in his official car.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:28 AM
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It turned out to be Joachim who appointed the new Minister for Culture today: Billed-Bladet - Prins Joachim udnævner for første gang en minister

Because he is currently Rigsforstander as both QMII and Frederik is out of the coutnry these days. - It's the first time Joachim has appointed or rather approved a new minister.

It was incidentally Marianne Jelved who bcame the new minister (can't we ever get rid of her)?
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:56 PM
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I guess this is the best place to put a post that is specifically about the DRF and the Law of Succession.

Derfor kan prins Henrik ikke blive konge

The serious newpaper Jyllands Posten has taken a serious view on Prince Henrik wish to be titled king.

He can't! Not possible. That would require a change in the Law of Succession and the Law of Succession is just as difficult to change as the Constitution.

In other words QMII cannot bestow the title of king on Prince Henrik. In order for that to happen, there must be a majority in favour in the Parliament, followed by a general election. And in the new Parliament there must also be a majority for that to happen. Then the question is put out for a referendum and IRC 60% of the voters have to vote, for the referendum to be valid and there of course has to be a majority.
Only then can the Parliament pass the change, which has to be signed by QMII and published in paper Statstidende and then finally can Henrik call himself king.

Professor at law, Michael Hansen Jensen says: "As the rules are now, Prince Henrik cannot be king. Paragraph two in the Constitution follow the Law of Succesion in regards to who can become king, and it says that the throne is inherited by direct decendants to King Christian X and Queen Alexandrine".
- In other words in Denmark a king is defined as a sovereign, nothing else.

But could Prince Henrik be addressed/get an honorary title as king, without him being sovereign?

Michael Hansen Jensen replies: "You can't rule out that you can address him differently, but hardly as king, because that titles has some very specific/precise meanings in regards to the Constitution. I do however consider that a hypothetical question".

- So PH just has to live with being a Prince Consort. - And no matter what the second most distinguished person according to rank in DK. That's hardly a bad deal!
PH can sulk all he want but he is not in the line of Succession, so there will be times when, in matters of state, he is not bypassed but merely having a different role from his sons. If he can't live with that, I say shame on him.

It may be a generation difference or a cultural difference, I don't know, but if I was in Prince Henrik's shoes and I wittnessed Frederik performing his duties in matters of state I would be luminescent with pride.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:19 PM
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In order for that to happen, there must be a majority in favour in the Parliament, followed by a general election. And in the new Parliament there must also be a majority for that to happen. Then the question is put out for a referendum and IRC 60% of the voters have to vote, for the referendum to be valid and there of course has to be a majority.
Only then can the Parliament pass the change, which has to be signed by QMII and published in paper Statstidende and then finally can Henrik call himself king.
Muhler, it´s something about 40%... I´m too tired to translate now, but you can read more here: Folketinget - Kapitel 10: Ændring af grundloven
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:30 AM
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Well, an intervention in Syria seems more and more likely.

There is a majority in the Parliament for Denmark to take an active part in such an intervention if requested, so let's go through the procedure.

Tomorrow, Thusday afternoon, the government has called in the Foreign Policy Council and if the meeting there show a support for taking part in an intervention, and that is almost certain, then the Parliament will be called in to an extraordinary session. Most likely Friday.
The government will present a bill, outlining the Danish contribution and possible limits, timeframe and conditions - they are few. The law is expected to pass the same day.

QMII will now have returned from France and she will sign the law, making it valid. Most likely within a couple of hours after the bill is passed and then the formal order to the military can be given.
If, repeat if, the contribution involves F-16's they are expected to be in place in less than 24 hours after the order to go has been issued.

- Basically the same thing as the intervention in Libya.
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Summary of a Q&A in Billed Bladet #36, 2013.

Where a Anni Sau Overby asks what will happen should QMII suffer from dementia.

Jon Bloch Skipper replies that that eventuality is covered by § 9 in the Constitution, which deals with monarch being unable to perform his/her duties.

The Parliament will pass a special bill appointing Frederik to Regent and he will rule on QMII's behalf until her death.
In other words QMII will not abdicate. There has been only one abdication in Danish history and that was in the 1100's where a king was paralyzed.
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Things are pretty dramatic here in DK today.

The government consists of three parties, one of these parties has just now left the government. That means a major government reshuffle, which again means that ministers will yet again... meet with QMII to resign and be appointed.

It may even lead to a general election, which again involves QMII.

One paper wrote jokingly that QMII dare hardly leave DK these days because of the current governments habits of reshuffling, ministers resigning (or being resigned) and now parties leaving.
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A third have withdrawn themselves from the government (quite understandably when the politics of the government is the direct opposite of your party's politics), so QMII will have a lot of work to do in a week or two appointing 6+ new ministers. It is, however, very unlikely that this hurdle should lead to a new election as the withdrawn party will remain the government's parliamentary basis.
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True, the PM will not call a general election now if she can possibly avoid it.
It will however make it more difficult for the government to manouvre. - Or easier perhaps? Now they'll just deal openly with the opposition - which is basically what they have done all along.
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Billed Bladet has a short article on the reshuffle today and audience with the Queen, they write that Frederik was also present.

Dronning Margrethe og kronprins Frederik hilste på den nye regering | Billed Bladet

"Amalienborg putting Monday morning house for the new SR-government, Helle Thorning-Schmidt presented to Queen Margrethe and Crown Prince Frederik at 10 Barely a few hours later it was time that the outgoing ministers should have an audience with Queen Margrethe and Crown Prince Frederik, when there was farewell audience at 11:45."
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Well, as you can see from Polyesco and other's posts, we had yet another major reshuffle in the government today.

I won't bother go through the procedure, I'll just sound like a parrot...

Instead let's have some satire. In this case a mock article from Politiken: Dronningen afviser ny regering: "I kan ikke komme rendende hele tiden" | Nationens Øje | Helt Normalt

Where QMII has refused to accept the reformed government:

"HRH the Prince Consort, The Princes and I will take over the running of the government until you again are ready for a representative democracy.
Really, it's after all only 53 days they were here the last time. All that running around simply has to stop. That female Prime Minister constantly had to count those present to ensure that nothing new had happened within the past twenty minutes. I really can't allow the Danes to be put up with that anymore".

QMII refuse that she is breaking the Constitution:
"Absolutely not. Paragraph 14 in the Constitution states clearly that I decide whether I can approve the various constellations.
Let me put it like this: I was kind the first fourteen times she was here, but now it really has to stop. Now you call that general election, so that the fat one (Lars Løkke, opposition leader) can spend the resources of the kingdom on gravy and airplane fares, instead of gigantic salaries for ministers who are in office for six weeks". (The minimum wage for a minister resigning is additional 18 months full salary).

QMII will take over as prime minister. PH will be the new foreign minister. Frederik will be defence minister, while Joachim will be minister of the interior. QMII ends: "And with that I believe we really don't need further ministers.
Now, bugger off, before I let lose the dogs".
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QMII will take over as prime minister. PH will be the new foreign minister. Frederik will be defence minister, while Joachim will be minister of the interior. QMII ends: "And with that I believe we really don't need further ministers.
Now, bugger off, before I let lose the dogs".
LOL
and we do know those royal dogs can be dangerous
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