The Royal Forums Coat of Arms

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Reigning Houses > Royal House of Denmark > Queen Margrethe II and Prince Henrik

Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #21  
Old 09-29-2011, 08:28 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
A Florian Lauer asks in the Q&A in Billed Bladet #39, 2011, how he can obtain QMII's autograph.

Jon Bloch Skipper repiles that this will be very difficult indeed, QMII do not like idol worship! For that reason alone it's most unlikely she would ever give an autograph.
She basically only use her signature in connection with her job and in the daily correspondance, so if you want QMII's signature, you can write a letter to her, that is considered so meaningful/important that she will respond in person.
__________________

__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-29-2011, 10:16 AM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: xxx, Finland
Posts: 288
A question about the much discussed order given to the King of Bahrain earlier this year:

There has been several articles in the Danish press, where Amnesty International and some of the parties think, that the Queen should demand the order back from the King. Could she actually do it? Has it ever been done?


OT, sorry. I don't know where to put this.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-29-2011, 10:24 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nordic View Post
A question about the much discussed order given to the King of Bahrain earlier this year:

There has been several articles in the Danish press, where Amnesty International and some of the parties think the Queen should demand the order back from the King. Could she actually do it? Has it ever been done?


OT, sorry. I don't know where to put this.
Yes, she can. And it has been done before.
IIRC the court or rather the Danish State demanded the Order of the Elephant back from Nicolae Ceaușescu shortly before he and his wife were executed. I believe the order was lost however.

The King of Bahrain recieved the second highest Danish order, the Grand Cross of the Order of Dannebrog. And in view of recent events in Bahrain, not least that a Danish citizen of Bahrani desent has been sentenced to life in prison for protesting against the regime and with the fact that a new governemt is expected to be formed within a few days, it is not unlikely that the court on behalf of the Foreign Ministry will demand the order returned as one way of expressing displeasure.

ADDED: QMII is the Lord of the Orders (Ordensherre). As such she can and will demand orders returned from recipients who are considered unworthy of keeping the order. That has happened fairly often with minor orders, like Knights of Dannebrog and so on.
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-29-2011, 10:41 AM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: xxx, Finland
Posts: 288
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhler View Post

QMII is the Lord of the Orders (Ordensherre). As such she can and will demand orders returned from recipients who are considered unworthy of keeping the order. ,
Thanks Muhler.
So, is it up to her to inform the UM that she intends to demand it back, and if she doesn't he keeps it? Or can the ministry advice her that she ought to ask for it back?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-29-2011, 10:46 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nordic View Post
Thanks Muhler.
So, is it up to her to inform the UM that she intends to demand it back, and if she doesn't he keeps it? Or can the ministry advice her that she ought to ask for it back?
It's a political question. And a delicate one at that, considering the citizen who is in prison and the general political situation in that area at present.
Even though QMII can act on her own accord, I find it very unlikely that she would, without being advised by the Foreign Ministry.
Whatever QMII does now, in this respect, will be on behalf of the Danish government. - Not least in the light of the previous government letting her down earlier this year, so that she took the rap, for presenting the order to the King of Bahrain.

If the King of Bahrain will not return the order, there is little that can be done about it. Except that the court will probably not have anything to do with the court in Bahrain. Not returning the order if requested is somewhat outside the diplomatic rules, especially if you, as a new monarchy, wish to be taken seriously.



Lets have some more protocol, garnished with a little political drama.

As you may recall we had a general election two weeks ago here in DK and the political negotiations regarding forming a new government are almost complete. It is expected the government and its political manifesto if you will, will be presented tomorrow, Sunday or Monday at the very latest.

What happens is that the future PM, Helle Thorning will go to the Queen and inform her that she has the basis for a new government with herself as Prime Minister, is that okay? QMII will naturally approve and ask her to form the new government.
The ministers will then be presented formally to Her Majesty, partly to greet their head of state, but actually also to be approved. QMII will again naturally approve all of them.

And now we come to the political drama.
PET, the Police Intelligence Service, run a check on all newly elected members of the Parliament. They were incidentally all approved. However, if PET had found something "interesting" on a new member, it would have been up the Presidium of the Parliament, headed by the Chairman of the Parliament to decide, whether that person would be worthy to be a member of the Parliament.

However, potential new ministers also go through a more thorough security check by PET. Not least those who are destined for senior posts.
Formally PET is requested to do so by the head of the department (a very senior civil servant!) in Statsministeriet, the PM's office. In reality it is done on behalf of the future PM, Helle Thorning. Who has had a list with names since before the election.
What happened today was that a very senior politician, actually Helle Thorning's political right hand man, resigned from what would have been the post as future Minister of Finance/Treasury, because of a report from PET.
That is one of the five most senior posts in the government and as far as it is known, something like this has only happened once before.
What happened was that PET made an in depth (they actually write such procedures on their homepage, probably in English as well) investigation of the politician in question. They made a report and delivered it to the head of department in Statsministeriet, in reality Helle Thorning, the future PM. And something in that report led the politician to be rejected.
Formally the politician was contacted by the head of department in Statsministeriet and told about the report. He then contacted Helle Thorning and resigned as candidate for any post in the government and he has now become a back bencher. Helle Thorning would of course already know about the report and she accepted his resignation.
She could have chosen to overrule the report from PET and appoint him to Minister of Finance anyway, but for whatever reason she didn't. That happened at the other case I mentioned above. More on that later.

The reason for the politician resigning is baffling and it has caused raised eyebrows all the place! - He met with a senior Bandidos biker, who is a heavy criminal, at a cafe in May where they discussed a case about child costudy....
All commentators are in agreement. That simply cannot be the whole reason! For a politician to meet a known criminal at a public place once, and in his own constituency, that cannot be reason enough to sack him. Not a politician on such a high level. - So here in DK, those of us who are interested in politics await with anticipation what else may surface.

The previous case I mentioned was from 1977 or 1981. And the PM back then chose to overrule the report and appoint the politician, Ole Espersen, to Minister of Justice (and incidentally also the ultimate head of PET). However, certain informations were kept away from him. An interesting situation, where the head of the department in the Minstry of Justice kept information away from his boss, the Minister of Justice!
The reason for him not getting a higher security clearance was that he was apparantly being groomed by KGB. - Talking to a criminal on a public cafe seems to be on a more trival level, so.....

Did any of you get this far? Or did you fall asleep?
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-29-2011, 06:45 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 442
Muhler, you underestimate your devoted readers who always tune in for your wise words! No political leader wants to be embarrassed so that the investigations you discuss are a necessary part of public life. It will indeed be interesting to discover what your minister has done but other similar examples spring to mind. Remember the German minister of defence who was discovered (after being sworn in, so that the Germans are apparently less thorough than you Danish!) to have plagiarized his doctoral thesis! Please keep us informed!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-30-2011, 03:48 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerry View Post
Muhler, you underestimate your devoted readers who always tune in for your wise words! No political leader wants to be embarrassed so that the investigations you discuss are a necessary part of public life. It will indeed be interesting to discover what your minister has done but other similar examples spring to mind. Remember the German minister of defence who was discovered (after being sworn in, so that the Germans are apparently less thorough than you Danish!) to have plagiarized his doctoral thesis! Please keep us informed!
You are most kind, Gerry
I actually don't remember the German minister of defence. I guess that was the end of his political career?

More is emerging about the politician here in DK. The politician is Henrik Sass. A Social Democrat and in many ways what the party, which has it's root in the working class needs, as he genuinely came from the working class.
He is also a very outspoken man with controversial opinions, who has been involved in the internal fighting in the party. Danish readers in partcular will know that you have to watch your back if you are an enemy of the Nyrup and Lykketoft wings! And while they were in charge, Henrik Sass was sidelined.
And this is where we come to the interesting bit. The Social Democrats have their own information network, believe me! - PET wouldn't even have had to call the local police in the town of Køge, where Henrik Sass' constituency is located (they would actually have known about him for years), they could just have called one of his enemies among the Social Democrats.
The soon to be Prime Minister, Helle Thorning, kept Henrik Sass, as her closest advisor and associate, even though she would no doubt have been warned against him and been told about him, via the internal channels within the party. That means her judgement is put in question, so she had to sack him. More about that later.

Now, Ekstra Bladet, being a tabloid, still have a few very competent investigative journalists, and they have good contacts within the criminal world as well as the police and they are digging out more about Henrik Sass. He has remained a very close friend with a local former party chairman, who is involved in some dirt and who is currently charged with bribery. Apart from that the former chairman, Kamp, also associate known local criminals (like Bandido bikers). On top of that Henrik Sass hangs out in local bars which are also frequented by local criminals and others who didn't go to Sunday school. - That's the environment he came from, so in a sense it's natural. But for a Minister of Finance?
PET appears to have concluded that Henrik Sass was a security risk in the sense that his associations made him open to blackmail.
It still seems slightly trivial to me, so I guess there is more to come.

Henrik Sass incidentally can choose to publish the report from PET as it hardly contains state secrets if he really has only made one misjudgement, as he claims.

Back to Helle Thorning and her predicament.
The report was officially handed over to the head of department of Statsministeriet (the PM's office). The heads of departments in particular, and the ministerial civil servants in general are universally respected across the party lines for their very high level of integrity.
And now I speculate: If Helle Thorning's future head of department and the most senior civil servant, PET report in hand, advise her to get rid of Henrik Sass, she's is certainly intelligent enough to follow that advise! - Apparantly that decision was made Wednesday and Thursday Henrik Sass "decided" to step back, after having spoken to the head of the department.
It is after all the most important job of the heads of the departments (Sir Humphrey Appleby types with integrity) to advise and protect their ministers.
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-30-2011, 11:06 AM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 442
The Sir Humphreys of the world are first and foremost concerned with themselves, I think, so it behooves them to ensure their ministers will do them proud! Your new prime minister sounds well advised and in good hands! The German minister of defence I wrote of is Karl-Theodor zur Guttenberg, a nobleman who did not behave as such. Here is a link to his farewell concert, a perk of the job you might enjoy!
bookofjoe: Disgraced German Minister of Defense Guttenberg transfers power while military band plays "Smoke On The Water"
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-30-2011, 12:18 PM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerry View Post
The Sir Humphreys of the world are first and foremost concerned with themselves, I think, so it behooves them to ensure their ministers will do them proud! Your new prime minister sounds well advised and in good hands! The German minister of defence I wrote of is Karl-Theodor zur Guttenberg, a nobleman who did not behave as such. Here is a link to his farewell concert, a perk of the job you might enjoy!
bookofjoe: Disgraced German Minister of Defense Guttenberg transfers power while military band plays "Smoke On The Water"
I did! I fully enjoyed that one. Thanks, Gerry.
Either he has got a great sense of self irony or he (like me) just like that song. (*)

In the meantime here in the homely duck pond (idiom), Henrik Sass is really getting the knife! If I ever wanted to go into politics, I'm certainly discouraged now!
Two prominent Social Democrats have stated there must something more in this. No keeping a low profile for the benefit of their party leader, much better brandishing the daggers.
One of the politicians is Ole Espersen, whom I mentioned in my previous posts as being groomed by KGB and that PET on that basis delivered a report that advised against him becoming Minister of Justice. That is in fact not correct, that was something the news agency Ritzau had got wrong.
PET kept an eye on Ole Espersen long before he was a candidate for that post and they had also reported about him to the then PM. It was on basis of Ole Espersen having met KGB agents that he was not cleared for a higher level of security, and that led to his head of department keeping back information from him.
Ole Espersen was well aware of that and accepted that before he even came into play as Minister of Justice.
But Ole Espersen has today basically stated that the Henrik Sass affair is worse! Okay.... The long knives are out!

This is one of the instances where I find it really fortunate that the Danish Monarch only has a constitutional role, well above party politics.
QMII is also very well informed, both because she is an avid reader of papers and through her advisors, about many of the politicians she meet with frequently.
It must sometimes be odd for her to stand there at say New Years Courts and greet certain politicians with a smile, knowing perfectly well that they are utterly ruthless backstappers.

(*) For Danish members: You've not experienced anything until you've heard that song exposed to Susi & Leo! - But It's a good idea to be half drunk first....
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 10-02-2011, 04:12 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
Finally a new government!

Regering på vej - det skal der ske i dag - dr.dk/Nyheder/Temaer/Valg

This article explains today's procedure.

1) The Royal Investigator, Helle Thorning, will seek an audience with QMII today Sunday. Where she will inform Her Majesty that she is now ready to form a government.

2) The former Prime Minister, Lars Løkke, who since the general election was called five weeks ago has acted as an administrative PM, is summoned by QMII, so that she can be advised by him.
QMII has her own advisors but the PM (acting or effective) is still her most important advisor.
Lars Løkke will of course advise the Queen to request Helle Thorning to form a new government. - Anything else would be huge sensation!

3) Helle Thorning meets QMII a second time. QMII gives her approval to Helle Thorning to form a new government.

- All of the above is expected to take place within one hour.

4) QMII will then send a written request to Helle Thorning about forming a new government.
When Helle Thorning has signed that document, she is officially Prime Minister of Denmark. (*)
The acting Prime Minster, Lars Løkke, is at that same moment relieved of duty.

- Tomorrow the new ministers will be presented to QMII and after that to the press at Amalienborg Square.

- Tuesday, the Parliament will open after the summer holiday and Helle Thorning will give her first speech as Prime Minister.

(*) ADDED: TV2 informs us that Helle Thorning's signature on this document makes her a designated Prime Minister. Whether it's TV2 or DR1 who is right, shall remain to be seen....
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 10-02-2011, 11:59 AM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 442
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhler View Post
Finally a new government!

Regering på vej - det skal der ske i dag - dr.dk/Nyheder/Temaer/Valg

This article explains today's procedure.

1) The Royal Investigator, Helle Thorning, will seek an audience with QMII today Sunday. Where she will inform Her Majesty that she is now ready to form a government.

2) The former Prime Minister, Lars Løkke, who since the general election was called five weeks ago has acted as an administrative PM, is summoned by QMII, so that she can be advised by him.
QMII has her own advisors but the PM (acting or effective) is still her most important advisor.
Lars Løkke will of course advise the Queen to request Helle Thorning to form a new government. - Anything else would be huge sensation!

3) Helle Thorning meets QMII a second time. QMII gives her approval to Helle Thorning to form a new government.

- All of the above is expected to take place within one hour.

4) QMII will then send a written request to Helle Thorning about forming a new government.
When Helle Thorning has signed that document, she is officially Prime Minister of Denmark.
The acting Prime Minster, Lars Løkke, is at that same moment relieved of duty.

- Tomorrow the new ministers will be presented to QMII and after that to the press at Amalienborg Square.

- Tuesday, the Parliament will open after the summer holiday and Helle Thorning will give her first speech as Prime Minister.
Considering that all of the above will require audiences with the Queen of Denmark, I would think the mods will understand and NOT delete posts dealing with the political issues that are, after all, the bread and butter of Royalty, including HM Queen Margarethe. Speaking of which, Muhler, I include a link to an article about a young Danish politician in today's Guardian that may cause a ruckus at Amalienborg! If Johanne Schmidt Nielsen was capable of cooking 200 kg of pasta and 40 kilos of tomato sauce for disposal at the ministry responsible for cutting student grants, I wonder what she could do at one of HM Queen Margrethe's audiences!
Johanne Schmidt-Nielsen: the new queen of Denmark's left? | World news | The Observer
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 10-02-2011, 01:54 PM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
I will be busy tomorrow, so let's go through the protocol for tomorrow.

Tomorrow morning, Monday, the press will be informed as to who have have become ministers in the new government.

Helle Thorning will present her ministers to QMII at an audience, probably Monday forenoon.
It is formally QMII who will approve the new ministers.

The new government will be presented to the press and the public on Amalienborg Square right after the audience.

The former PM, Lars Løkke, will then have an audience with QMII, where Her Majesty will thank them for their service.
Formally speaking the government ministers are her servants.

Durning the next few hours, I.e. shortly after noon. The formal handovers will take place in the various ministries. Short speeches will be held and gifts will be exchanged. The designated ministers will sign the appropriate document, making them ministers.
And that's it. By mid afternoon Monday, Denmark will have a new fully functioning government.

Thank you, Gerry.
I read an article in Politiken about this article.
Johanne Schmidt has a huge public appeal and I believe that unless the Unity List swallow too many camels (*) they are in a win-win situation.
Because the new government is not red, it's dark lilac!
Helle Thorning has had to accept so many crucial compromises to even form this government that there is and will be a very considerable dissapointment among the voters. Many of these voters are likely to vote for the Unity List at the next election.
And if, or should I say when, the Unity List pull the plug for this government in about two-two and a half years from now, because the government is turning light blue. The Unity List will also win, because they said stop!
The losers in any case will be the Social Democrats and Socialists Peoples Party.

(*) Idiom, menaning that they accept too many compromises that are really in contrast to their party politics.
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 10-08-2011, 11:59 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
Summary of short article in Billed Bladet #40, 2011.
Frederik hjalp mor - Frederik helped mother.
Written by Annelise Weimann.

Who informs us that Frederik, since he turned eighteen in 1986 and thus became a member of the State Council, has attended (most) of the Queen Rounds, presentations, government reshuffles and consultations since then.

This time a new government was elected and that meant more consultations, and a Queen Round.
When the new government was finally presented Monday and the previous government formally resigned QMII handled all that at Amalienborg.
But at the same time there was a public audience at Christiansborg and that is not cancelled because of a new government. - For practical reasons. Simply because some of those who go to the audience also have schedules, so Frederik handled that one.

- At the past couple of election, the government was reelected and that's a simple process involving only a couple of meetings.
But when a new government is elected, it means more meetings, more briefings (even though QMII was no doubt very well informed beforehand) and formal consultations with both the acting PM and her own political advisor, i.e. her Cabinet Secretary.
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 11-23-2011, 03:47 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
I noticed on another board that there is a discussion about QMII recieving six ambassadors in simplifié.

There is nothing unusual about that. The six ambassadors arrive about the same time, but each one of them is granted an audience alone with Her Majesty.
Here they can present themselves and hand over their credentials. - After which they are officially acknowledged as ambassadors for their country.

This is not about savings or group-audiences, that would be an affront. From a protocol point of view all ambassadors are treated equal no matter the size or importance of their country.

Beforehand new ambassadors were given an escort by Guards Hussars and driven through town, partly as a curtesy, partly to present them to the people.
Simplifié simply means a low key audience without fanfare and the big show.
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 02-16-2012, 08:07 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
I'll place this here as this is a part of the Constitutional role the DRF has.

In the Q&A in Billed Bladet #07, 2012.
A Karin Borup would like to know whether members of the DRF can be tried and convicted if they commit a crime.

Jon Bloch Skipper replies yes and no.
The members of the DRF have immunity, which is guranteed in the Constitution and in the Law of the King from 1665. - It is strictly speaking up to the Monarch to choose the punishment/sanction, if any, for family members.
However, the Monarch can choose to lift the immunity if such a crime is severe enough. - And that is likely to happen in case in case it is serious enough. Simply to retain the standing of the DRF in the yes of the people.

- The most likely nightmare scenario is probably the combination of speeding and causing a serious, perhaps fatal, traffic accident. That has been suggested as a reason for QMII never driving a car.

---------------------

On another note.
A Anne Grethe Nielsen would like to know why Queen Anne-Marie is not in the line of succession.

Jon Bloch Skipper replies that she gave up all rights for the Danish throne, when she married King Konstantin in 1964. That also applies to all her ascendants.

Princess Benedikte had to, prior to her wedding with Prince Richard, sign a number of papers regulating the rights of her and her children to the Danish throne, since Frederik had not been born then in 1968.
- Had QMII had no children, then Benedikte followed by her oldest child would have become monarch upon the death of QMII.
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 08-09-2012, 09:36 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
Translation of a Q&A in Billed Bladet #32, 2012.

Where a Lisbeth Nord Nielsen would like to know whether QMII can refuse to sign a law? (*)

Jon Bloch Skipper replies:
Even though Queen Margrethe in the head of state of Denmark she has no political power.
She simply must acknowledge the bills of the government and sign the laws passed by the Parliament.
If she doesn't she will break the the Constitution and that will cost her, her job.
The ajesty has never refused to sign a law, but she has from time to time come up with comments and humorous remarks during the State Coucils where the laws of the nation are signed. (**)

(*) Let's go through the procedure again: A bill is passed in the Parliament, making it a law.
The Monarch/Regent/Rigsforstander signs the law in order for it to be valid.
However the law cannot be enforced until at has been published.

(**) Usually. But it happens that the laws are signed elsewhere, like at Schackenborg and in one case at the barracks of the Frogman Corps.
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 08-09-2012, 07:09 PM
nwinther's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Varde, Denmark
Posts: 201
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhler View Post
Jon Bloch Skipper replies that she gave up all rights for the Danish throne, when she married King Konstantin in 1964. That also applies to all her ascendants.
Don't you mean her descendants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhler View Post
If she doesn't she will break the the Constitution and that will cost her, her job.
Which part of the constitution is that?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 08-10-2012, 12:33 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
Quote:
Originally Posted by nwinther View Post
Which part of the constitution is that?
I haven't checked. Ask Jon Bloch Skipper.

What the consequences of a refusal would be is very much the question.

I personally doubt very much the politicians would have the guts to sack QMII if she refused to sign a law that went against her conviction. That would have to be a very controversial law for that to even happen.
- Something like the reintroduction of burning of witches.

The politicians would, I believe, in that case already know the view of the Monarch before the law was even passed. That alone might be reason enough to scrap or at least amend the bill.

But should the situation arise, QMII could opt to leave the country, so that the Regent or a Rigsforstander would sign the law instead.

Sacking QMII would basically be the same as abolishing the monarchy or sending her into exile, with all the problems that would entail.

- Basically we are so far out in "what ifs", that we could write novels about it and it's pure speculation.

-----------------

For whatever reason multiquote doesn't seem to work this morning.

You are right, descendants. - But I see you got the point anyway.
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 10-16-2012, 05:58 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
Danmarks to nye ministre har mødt dronningen - Politiken.dk

There has been a minor government reshuffle today.
Formally speaking it's the Monarch who appoints new ministers, so the Prime Minister dropped by Amalienborg and presented the two new ministers, who are formally recommended by the government.
QMII says: "I'm cool with that. - Have a glass of champagne and some cake".

In other words: QMII naturally approves the new ministers and congratulates them - and she does indeed offer champagne and cake.
Then the new minsters pose outside Amalienborg for some official photos.

The two ministers who have been "been resigned" (Ole Sohn) and "whose services are no longer required" (Thor Möger), - they were both sacked, - also meet QMII who thank them for their service.

A little later a hand-over takes place in the ministries. - That is sometimes an informal and humorous affair - other times an akward and icecold affair.
__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 10-22-2012, 12:04 PM
Muhler's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 5,195
Today QMII recieved people in public audience.
In principle anyone can request an audience with the Monarch, in reality you contact the court in advance and state your business or you show up at the door, so to speak and state your business. - Some are of course rejected if they are nutcases, their agenda is political or simply not serious. - Showing up just to say hi to the Queen is not considered serious.

Here is an article listing the 82 persons who met QMII today.
82 i audiens hos dronningen

Here is what it says in bold:

Følgende takkede for udnævnelse til ridder af dannebrogsordenen = The following thanked for their appointment to Knight of the Order of Dannebrog.

Følgende takkede for udnævnelse til kommandør af dannebrogsordenen - The following thanked for the appointment to Commander of the Order of Dannebrog.

Følgende takkede for fortjentsmedaljen i sølv - The following thanked for the Service Medal in silver. (Usually for trusted, good and long service as a civil servant).

For den kongelige belønningsmedalje med krone takkede - For the Royal Medal of Commendment with crown (these) thanked. (Usually for people who have excelled themselves outside the civil service and/or who have been in the same employ for I don't know how many years).

For den kongelige belønningsmedalje takkede = For the Royal Medal of Commendment (these) thanked. (As above but on a lesser scale).

De følgende takkede for udnævnelse = The following thanked for appointment. (Senior civil servants and members of "etaterne" i.e. the uniformed branches of the state, like police, military, costoms and so on).

Følgende var i afskedsaudiens - The following attended a farewell audience. (Again senior civil servants retirering).

As you can tell most come to thank the Majesty for orders, medals and promotions they have recieved, anything else would be most impolite.
QMII is also the Lord of the Chapter of Orders (Ordenskapitlet), when Frederik becomes king, he will become the next Lord.
Joachim is, as far as I remember, the executive in the Chapter of Orders. He is among a group of people who run a little background on people who have been recommended for an order/medal. They will then draw up a list of people and present them to QMII for final approval.

As the DRF is stricktly politically neutral, there is actually very little she can deal with, such as what happened recently, that a father wrote to her and asked for a pardon (from prison) for his son.
Most things adhere under some sort of ministry. In the case of the letter above the Ministry of Justice, as QMII would never pardon anyone without the full concent of the government.

It happens that she invite people to a personal audience, if she for whatever reason would like to know something, meet someone and so on.

I know, this is pretty basic for most here, but some are not familiar with the little details of a monarchy, which is why I often write about the "obvious".
__________________

__________________
I love work, it absolutely fascinates me. I can sit for hours looking at people working.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
margrethe, margrethe ii, queen margrethe


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Additional Links
Popular Tags
abdication birth charlene chris o'neill crown prince frederik crown prince haakon crown princess mary crown princess mette-marit crown princess victoria dutch royal history engagement fashion grand duchess maria teresa grand duke henri infanta leonor infanta sofia jewellery jordan king abdullah ii king carl xvi gustav king felipe king felipe vi king harald king juan carlos king philippe king willem-alexander luxembourg olympic games olympics ottoman poland pom pregnancy president hollande prince albert prince albert ii prince carl philip prince constantijn prince felipe prince floris prince maurits prince pieter-christiaan princess aimee princess anita princess astrid princess beatrix princess charlene princess laurentien princess letizia princess mabel princess margriet princess mary queen anne-marie queen letizia queen mathilde queen maxima queen paola queen rania queen silvia queen sofia royal royal fashion russia sofia hellqvist spain state visit sweden the hague visit wedding



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:33 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014
Jelsoft Enterprises

Royal News Delivered to your Email!

You can get the latest Royal News right in your inbox.

unsusbcribe at anytime with one click

Close [X]