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Old 05-01-2005, 09:23 PM
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translation to english of the article above

In Morocco, the princess with the naked feet attracts on the press the anger of the Palace.

(Le monde or the world paper) one doesnt have to play with the private life of the royal family in Morocco. The last-born child of the weekly magazines Arabic-speaking people has just learned it with his costs. He received from the Minister of the royal House, the protocol and the chancellery, Abedelhak El-Mrini, a heavy letter of threats. In a issue published at the beginning of April, Al Jarida Al-Oukhra ("the other newspaper") published an "unauthorized" report revealing some aspects of the private life of the wife of king Mohammed VI, Her Royal Highness Lalla Salma. Supplied with indiscretion attached to monarchy, the illustrated article of official photographs comprised its batch of revelations. One learned there as well as the tajine with carrots is the preferred dish of Lalla Salma, than it sometimes happens to the young princess to give to eat to her son prince moulay Hassan , than her garde-robe is signed by large dressmakers, than it prohibited to her entourage to wrongly beseech the name of God and through and, supreme scandal, than it likes to walk naked feet in the many palates of the kingdom.

Guard of the traditions of a monarchy older than that which reigns in Great Britain, the Minister for the royal House could not not react. Less than twenty-four hours after the setting on sale of the weekly magazine, its director, Ali Anouzla, thus received an official missive. The newspaper "was too far" daring to approach "the most intimate details of the private life of her Highness", put forward the minister. "I warn you that the consequences of your behavior can be harmful", added it, before recalling that its department is only the ability to reveal information on the royal family. The Al director Jarida Al-Oukhra did not let himself any tell, in spite of this exceptional step. In an official statement, he retorted by making the point that the minister "is not entitled to consider the action journalistic" and that courts exist to slice if it or not reached there with the private life. "This letter aims at intimidating us. They want to make us conceal ", affirms in the World the journalist, extremely success of its cover: the princess allowed to double the sales of the young weekly magazine. "We made the second pulling, tells Mr. Anouzla, and we were going to make a third of it when the letter of the minister arrived. We preferred to remain about it there by fear of an intervention of the authorities." This mishap illustrates the distance which monarchy alaouite with the press of the kingdom intends to maintain. However very at ease with the journalists, the king Hassan II, during his very long reign, never granted maintenance to a Moroccan body of press. His/her son adopted the same policy. "When Mohammed VI travels abroad, the journalists who accompanies it are placed on another aircraft. And when it is made photograph in family, the stereotypes are for Paris Match. Not for us ", note the director of the newspaper by which the scandal arrived. And to add: "I am ready to start again to speak about what occurs behind the walls from the Palace."

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Old 05-24-2005, 05:30 AM
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This is an intersting article from a moroccan magazine named telquel. Its title is : "The Speech and the Method (Our King has multiple qualities, but not the one of communication)"

Sorry, it is in French.

Le discours et la méthode
(Notre roi a probablement de multiples dons, mais pas celui de communiquer)
Mohammed VI n'est pas doué pour les discours. Ça fait six ans qu’on se retient de le dire, craignant (vaguement) d’attenter à une quelconque sacralité. Mais être sacré ne veut pas dire être infaillible. Notre roi a probablement de multiples dons, mais pas celui de communiquer. Son dernier discours, délivré mercredi 18 mai, en a donné une nouvelle illustration. D’abord, Mohammed VI lit ostensiblement des feuilles de papier posées sur son bureau, les yeux baissés. Il ne les lève que fugacement, à la fin de chaque paragraphe. Et Dieu que ces paragraphes sont longs et qu’il faut s’accrocher pour les suivre ! De grâce, Messieurs les rédacteurs des discours, faites des phrases courtes et percutantes, et conseillez à Sa Majesté d’abandonner ses feuilles et de regarder son peuple (c’est-à-dire la caméra) dans les yeux. Convaincre 30 millions de personnes, cela vaut bien le coup d’apprendre un texte par cœur, et de "jouer" un peu. Les chefs des plus grands états le font, et s’ils ne sont pas à l’aise devant une caméra (c’est le cas de beaucoup), ils font appel à des coachs pour les aider à surmonter leur gêne. Pourquoi le nôtre ne ferait-il pas pareil ? Au minimum, il y a les prompteurs. Tous les présentateurs de journaux télévisés en ont un, ce qui leur permet de lire un texte préparé sans quitter le téléspectateur des yeux. Le roi, en plus, a l’avantage du différé (le discours de mercredi, délivré à 20h30, avait été enregistré à 18h) – ce qui lui permet de refaire les prises tant qu’elles ne sont pas bonnes. Zéro risque, bénéfice maximum…
Parlons maintenant du fond. Mercredi dernier, Mohammed VI a annoncé, solennellement, le lancement de l’Initiative Nationale pour le Développement Humain (INDH). Il s’agit, en gros, de remettre à niveau 350 communes rurales et 250 quartiers périurbains, tous ravagés par la pauvreté. Formidable ambition, franchement. Mais comment la réaliser ? Pour préparer un plan d’action, le roi a donné 3 mois au Premier ministre. Or, l’équipe rapprochée de ce dernier n’était au courant de rien avant le discours, non prévu sur le calendrier et annoncé 48 heures à l’avance. Que dire, alors, des différents ministres – et notamment celui des Finances, qui va s’arracher les cheveux pour débloquer un budget gigantesque sans toucher aux impôts (c’est le roi qui l’a dit)… Messieurs, vous avez trois mois, top chrono. Rompez !
Curieuse méthode, tout de même. Dans les pays normaux, le chef de l’état travaille en bonne intelligence avec le gouvernement, et une fois que tout est prêt, il annonce la bonne nouvelle. Chez nous, le roi a une idée, il la garde pour lui jusqu’à la dernière minute, puis il balance publiquement la patate chaude au Premier ministre, qui n’a d’autre choix que de s’incliner devant les instructions royales – et de clamer, pour faire bonne mesure, qu’elles sont l’expression même du génie. Et on dit que l’esprit Makhzen est en régression…
Enfin… L’INDH est sans doute une idée généreuse, mais tout ce qu’on en sait, pour l’instant, c’est le discours royal qui l’a annoncée. Un discours plutôt lénifiant, révélateur de surcroît d’un problème de gouvernance. Restez optimistes, après ça…


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Old 07-04-2005, 10:56 AM
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Interesting article from the Guardian paper:

MRF and gossips:

Morocco's royal family may be of little interest to the Beckhams as they nurse their grievances over the indiscretions of a treacherous nanny.

But King Mohammed VI has threatened dire consequences for a Rabat newspaper that portrayed his wife, Princess Lalla Salma, roaming barefoot in the palace, bossing the servants, enjoying carrot tagine and playing with the royal heir - whose circumcision ceremony was marked in traditional fashion with amnesties for 7,000 prisoners.

These Hello!-style revelations in al-Jarida al-Ukhra, also clearly relying on gossipy staff, were flattering enough (they doubled the weekly's circulation) but they have gone too far in denting the magic of Morocco's Alaoui monarchy, a dynasty older than the House of Windsor, a lot more sensitive and a good deal more powerful.

Like Jordan's King Abdullah, Bashar al-Assad in Syria and Saif al-Islam al-Gadafy in Libya, Mohammed VI, bearer of the ancient Muslim title "commander of the faithful", was hailed as the bright hope of Arab modernisers when he succeeded his father, Hassan II, in 1999.

Mohammed has struck some important blows for reform - liberalising the Moroccan economy, encouraging multi-party democracy, launching anti-poverty campaigns, easing restrictions on Islamists and promoting women's rights. On the negative side, critics point to high unemployment, the persistent misery of the shanty towns and the crackdown on hardline Islamists after 9/11, the Madrid train bombings and the Casablanca attacks.

Morocco's media have seen some loosening of the official grip: publication of the king's salary and royal budget went unpunished a few months ago. But in April a leading journalist, Ali Lmrabet, was fined and banned from practising his trade; his mistake was to mock the official line that refugees who fled Morocco's annexation of Western Sahara in 1976 are being held prisoner by the Algerian-backed Polisario Front.

On the Sahara, Mohammed has shown that he is not prepared to break with his father's nationalist legacy, so UN plans for a referendum have run into the desert sand. Media exposure of corrupt officials, including some allegedly involved in sex tourism, has also brought retribution, according to the watchdog Reporters Without Borders.

Tetchiness about the press sits awkwardly with a remarkable experiment, unique in the Arab world, that is designed to allow Moroccans to come to terms with the bad times under Hassan II.

The truth and reconciliation commission (l'Instance Equité et Réconciliation, or IER) has been at work for more than a year investigating the secret prisons, disappearances and torture that were the fate of many of those - Marxists, dissident military men and Islamists - who challenged the regime, then, as now, a loyal ally of France and the US.

Some high-profile cases are already well documented, such as the fate of the family of General Mohammed Oufkir, the security chief who plotted against the king in the 1970s, and the abduction and murder of Mehdi Ben-Barka, the leftwing opposition leader. Now, though, after a series of emotional public meetings where some of the thousands of ordinary victims have told their tales, the silence is being broken.

The downside is that the work of the IER is limited to cataloguing crimes, compensating relatives and recommending how such abuses can be avoided in future. Guilty men are being named but not called to account. The IER's mandate has been extended for a few months, but expectations for tackling impunity are low.

This is a far bigger issue than how the palace responds to revelations about the private lives of the royals - which do not appear to involve the sort of problems Posh and Becks suffer from. Morocco has started to reveal some of the skeletons in its national cupboard. It needs to punish those who put them there and give the skeletons a decent burial before it can move on to a democratic future.

Ian Black Monday May 2, 2005
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:37 PM
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"But King Mohammed VI has threatened dire consequences for a Rabat newspaper that portrayed his wife, Princess Lalla Salma, roaming barefoot in the palace, bossing the servants, enjoying carrot tagine and playing with the royal heir "

dont understand what s wrong about playing with her son...

its nice to see her as we barely do...
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:34 PM
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"But King Mohammed VI has threatened dire consequences for a Rabat newspaper that portrayed his wife, Princess Lalla Salma, roaming barefoot in the palace, bossing the servants, enjoying carrot tagine and playing with the royal heir "

dont understand what s wrong about playing with her son...

its nice to see her as we barely do...
There's nothing wrong with that,but the moroccan royalty is a very old one,even older than the Windsor british house,and they have a heavy protocol,so they aren't used to see their intimity displayed in gossips magazines with a "hello and hola style",if you see what I mean!

Anyway,although the royal house had showen that they dislike,but till now,they can't do anything against those moroccan independant papers and magazines,which I see as premices of democraty,they still talk about the personal life of the MRF and critisized many time the king,thing which you can't see in other ME royalties who are very strict towards people who critisize the monarch and punish them !
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I translate this article of « le journal-hebdo » about the cover of « Match du monde » about Moroccoof Amar Ali Peopolisation " side Court The Sahara is (once again) in effervescence under the standard of the irrédentistes, in Talsint and, for lack of “derrick”, the forgotten of the useless Morocco, parody to their manner the "rabble” of French suburbs. The justice of slaughtering, against the independent press confirms the ashamed place of kingdom in the world barometer of the freedom of speech of RSF, and Morocco caracoles more than ever at the head of the most corrupt countries. Nevertheless, only one thing seems to have kept the attention of the Moroccans " pressivores " this week: The number of " Match du Monde " dedicated to Morocco, a " special " edition derivative product of " Paris Match ", specialist of the " covers " dedicated to the only spangled, often ephemeral, and crowned heads without real sovereignty. A rare photo in duplicate page will keep all attentions, it must to say, that it has what to titillate all curiosities. The cliché shows, the intimate circle of the reigning family version 2005. Those that auscultated it under all its sewings will gloss about the noticed absence of the red Prince and his progeny, and of the one of the sovereign's mother, of which the last and furtive public apparition dates of a royal marriage under Hassan II. The national press made itself the echo of that, to minima, miming " Match du Monde " with a contained reserve. Astonishing " peopolisation " of the absolute power, that accept this contrite "thinning out of leaves" exercise, under the photographer's esthete eye coming from France, and that fulminates when a local newspaper of less brilliant paper, tries itself to the exercise. We will remind the raging missive of the cerberus of the royal protocol to the insolent Moroccan publisher who had the presumptuousness to reveal the culinary original sins of the first lady of kingdom. The subjects of His Majesty, can pay to the strong price a magazine, for which was open the doors of the palace openly, but are call to the order when they tempt to engulf themselves in the open breach of the high life of the arcanums of the Makhzen. Funny democracy to "variable geometry", that is marketed with wish for the foreign on airs of Zadig, but that, severely repressed for the national, because of almost divine sacredness , especially when they approach thematic a lot more serious. Result, they muzzle who promise the debate, and allowing, embarrassing swerve, like the one, recent, of this newspaper that has just proposed to its readers an enticing diving in the" harem of the sultans" The " peopolisation " of the regime is, in spite of its outdated character, a barometer of its capacity to open up, maybe more meaningful than all indications of political liberalization. its hypertrophy compared to the inefficience chronic of the institutions is a sign that doesn't deceive. Really, it must to yield to the facts: the democratic transition of which everybody strives to look for the weak demonstrations is a chimera; so much the evidence of its non-existence is in still-life deception. its architects, a handful of emblematic faces of the new era - Buddies of childhood of the forbidden City and rallied of the last hour - constitute a mad harnessing that takes its carriage toward the precipice. And the illustrations of this wild race abound. What is therefore this country of which the most influential minister of the affairs of the state who, moreover, has his suzerain's attentive ear, calls, bosses of press one by one so meanly submissive, to oblige them to produce, almost under the dictation, avenging, untrue articles and filled of insanities against other publications to the bothersome emancipation when these dare the contradiction? For a lot of sincere people, this country can't be Morocco. Impossible, they will say, these feudal practicals have been buried one day of July 1999. Unfortunately, this Morocco of which they boasts with pride, and often with patriotism, actually exist only, in the small propaganda of its leaders. Because so such was the case, why would they have need to pay out astronomical amounts to foreign publications for regild their blazon? if not, why a " democracy " as the one of Morocco would have to ape dictatorships of equatorial Guinea, Gabon or Rwanda while passing to the chest, to have good press in magazines of credibility on hedgehopping? With that, a " Match of the World " on the fairyland of the most beautiful country of the world can only fall of your hands. Especially when it is dedicated of this kind to the fiftieth anniversary of the independence.
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:33 AM
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http://www.telquel-online.com/202/co...re_202_1.shtml
This is a dossier of magazine telquel about MRF in media
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In his father's shadow

Morocco's faltering transition to democracy under King Mohammed VI

Apr 6th 2006 | CASABLANCA AND RABAT
From The Economist print edition

FOR visitors to Morocco's twin capitals—one political, the other economic—it is hard not to think that they represent the exception to the political decrepitude that seems to plague the Arab world. The bright mimosas and bougainvilleas of Rabat and the bustling business centre of Casablanca form a striking contrast with the dreary shabbiness and laissez-aller encountered elsewhere in the region. So does the political atmosphere: where else do truth and reconciliation commissions discuss torture cases on public television, or newspapers publish critiques of a head of state along with details of his private finances, or women live (at least on paper) under a more progressive family law?
“Morocco is advancing at a slow pace, but it will get there in time,” says one Western diplomat. “It's a model for reform—the best we have in a bad neighbourhood.”
For most Moroccans though, the point of reference is not Algeria's brutal military oligarchy or Tunisia's police state. It is not even “les années de plomb” (the years of lead) of the 1970s and 80s when political repression in Morocco was at its fiercest. Rather, it is the expectation of democratic transition first promised by the late king, Hassan II, in the early 1990s and reinforced by Mohammed VI's accession to the throne in 1999. But, despite some important milestones, Moroccans remain dissatisfied. For some, the country is democratising too fast, straight into the hands of Islamists eager to impose a reactionary moral order. For others, a cabal of former royal schoolmates in key public posts is simply exploiting Morocco's slowly liberalising economy for their own ends ...

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I found this article (in French) in the Moroccan newspaper Maroc Hebdo.

TRANSLATION by Amira :)
By one day sunny of at the end of March, a young man of about thirty years makes his jogging on the cornice of Casablanca. Blown, it stops to be refreshed. Whereas it sprinkles water, convertible black slows down on its level and is immobilized. The driver, with sunglasses, asks to him whether all is well. When the young person jogger is turned over to answer by the affirmative, it discovers, with its great surprise, that its interlocutor is not other than King Mohammed VI. Not knowing what to do nor what to say, it stammers some words to enquérir news of the Crown prince, Moulay Hassan. Before starting again, King Mohammed VI answers him that it goes as a charm. Spent the time of the surprise, this young man, computer graphics expert of his state, hastens to tell with its entourage his unexpected meeting with the King of Morocco. Since, the news was spread like a powder trail. Is this a hoax, a sight of the spirit or a reality? No one could not say it. Similar anecdotes always accompanied the reign by a Commander by Believing. The history of fire Mohammed V making her races itself or that of outgoing Hassan II incognito in the street testify some. These stories rock the imaginary popular one and become, with time, of the undeniable truths. Until today, Rabat had exclusiveness in it, but, with the multiple stays of the King in Casablanca, the economic capital is put at it too. A thing is sure. The Casablancais young people dream all to make, one day, the same meeting as this computer graphics expert. The hope remains allowed. King Mohammed VI does not hesitate to furrow the broad boulevards of the métropôle and to even venture in infernal stoppers. At the wheel of its BMW sport, without brought closer safety, it respects the road panels and the speed limits. The traffic policemen are amazed in front of as much good citizenship. "Never yet seen in the history of Morocco, SM King Mohammed VI stops with the red light and mark the stop, exclaims a police officer. Proof that no one is not above the law. The Sovereign gives the good example." The accident of King Mohammed VI, then adolescent, on the road of Skhirat is always in the spirits. The dispatch of the Arab Agency the Maghreb Press (MAP) announcing the withdrawal of its licence for excess speed on order of fire Hassan II too. Today, this mishap is only one bad memory. A question is essential: where can the King go when it does not work? When he was a Crown prince, he liked Casablanca for his good tables, his animated discotheques and his sports halls. Happy night birds still praise themselves to have attended the same places as Mohammed VI. Black House, the night club of Hyatt Regency, or Olivia Valère, of Riad Salam, had the privilege to accomodate it. Its appearances even made the reputations of these establishments. After the visits of the Crown prince, their customers have triplet, even quadrupled. Obviously, today, from his functions, King Mohammed VI does not attend any more this kind of places. But it therefore did not give up of it some of its practices of antan. The sport is an example. The inhabitants of the Maârif district, in Casablanca, remember its many passages to the room of re-arrangement in the shopping centre Benomar. King Mohammed VI is also a follower of the sports in the open air. Each morning, it makes lengths in its swimming pool or a course of Golf to the club of Anfa. But, the sport that it affectionne over all, it is the Jet Ski This discipline nautical, since its establishment in 1999, makes considerable great strides. Like the golf of the time of Hassan II. Except that, there, difficult for its courtiers to follow it. The muscular breadth of Mohammed VI does not leave any doubt. Its given step does not mislead either. The King is a large sportsman. At the time of official inaugurations or ceremonies, its collaborator close relations have evil to walk at its rate/rhythm. While speaking about his collaborators, one tells that King Mohammed VI does not mix occupations and personal life. It is not kind to be surrounded of a court. It does not maintain with his collaborators the friendly relations. The completed work, they lay out. If it needs them, it them joint by telephone. King Mohammed VI likes to spare a certain margin of intimacy. Moreover, the palates are more of the places of work than places of dwelling. With these immense jewels of Moroccan architecture, it prefers roomy villas. In Casablanca, after the end of its official activities of the day, it is withdrawn in its private residence of the district of Anfa. To the French magazine Paris Match, King Mohammed VI entrusted that it is implied in the education of his son, Moulay Hassan, and that it devotes time to him that it is necessary. The proof by the image. At the time of the commemoration of the 50ème birthday of the festival of Independence, November 16, 2005, guests come from the whole world were the eyewitnesses of the close connection linking the Crown prince with his father. In his spare times, King Mohammed VI also devotes himself to the reading. He is not satisfied with the press review that one subjects to him, he traverses itself the national and international newspapers. The matches of football are its favorite televised programs. The royal entourage is often taken of runs by its unexpected escapades. It takes its 4x4 and only launches out towards known destinations of him. What does not fail each time to throw into a panic its brought closer guard. The least which one can say, the stays of King Mohammed VI in Casablanca is very appreciated population. Except the few nuisances due to the blocking of circulation at the time of the passage of the official royal procession, Casablancais are delighted by its presence. Because they know that, the time of its stay, their city finds a glare without precedent. The enormous cracks on the roadway disappear, the parks flower and the streets are protected and cleaner. This temporary embellishment does not mislead King Mohammed VI, since it is said that it circulates in the most underprivileged districts of Casablanca to note visu the inventory of fixtures. There still, it is undoubtedly the legend which is let go. But, the visit surprised in the buildings of the Orphanage of Aïn Chock, 3 April 2005, famous although King Mohammed VI is close to his people. Its approach is very human. The images of each official exit show that the King Mohammed VI affectionne the walkabouts and does not limit himself to make visits flashes in the hospitals or the reformatories, but discusses with the patients and the boarders. This image of a young hard-working and open Sovereign feeds the legends more and more. Not only in Casablanca or Rabat. At the time of his last visit with Laâyoune, one tells that three young men were approached by the King at the wheel of his car. It asked them their national charts, only one had it on him. A few days after, this young unemployed graduate was named at an administrative station. Is it then astonishing of saying that Mohammed VI is the King of the hope, before being that of the poor?
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Amira could you give us the link in french please...I'll understand it better... Thanks!
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sorry about the translation , go to http://www.maroc-hebdo.press.ma , Archives then choose the Semaine du 7 au 13 Avril 2006
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sorry about the translation , go to http://www.maroc-hebdo.press.ma , Archives then choose the Semaine du 7 au 13 Avril 2006
maroc-hebdo is a magazine nery near to the palace, it never criticize the king or the royal family, as do it le journal-hebdo or telquel for example, always when it make articles about the MRF, its articles are a panegyric
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maroc-hebdo is a magazine nery near to the palace, it never criticize the king or the royal family, as do it le journal-hebdo or telquel for example, always when it make articles about the MRF, its articles are a panegyric
Isis, I read this article. What you said about the magazine maroc-hebdo is absolutely true. But for once this article contains some good and true statements, except (maybe) for the last few lines. Believe me I was born in Casablanca and grew up there. The king is known for all these things.
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hello everybody i have a surprise for you.i'm so happy because i bought 2 magazines "tel quel and diplomatica" it's about lalla salma i've scaned the articles so enjoy your selves.(bad english i know )

SAR la Princesse Lalla Salma préside à Rabat un dîner de bienfaisance :
it's an old event but no one has sent a photo of lalla salma during this gala dinner

http://img143.imagevenue.com/img.php...9_lastscan.jpg

i'v posted this one just to show what she has wore in this event:
"SAR la Princesse Lalla Salma, présidente de l'"Association Lalla Salma de lutte contre le Cancer'' inaugure la première unité de greffe de la moelle pour enfants et adultes au Maroc au service d'hématologie et oncologie pédiatrique relevant de l'hôpital 20 Août du CHU de Casablanca."

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again in the gala dinner but remarque in this foto,her sister is sit in at the same table of lalla salma she's in the right of the photo and she wore a black caftan this about the first one in the right and after her there is two ladies and then lalla salma

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a third foto at the gala dinner

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this is the article in tel quel it's about lalla salma there is a new information about her caracter and what she did at the palace it's about 10 pages just for her::) it's a new article it appears this week.
i'm going to scan all the pages and put them in order and read the articleand then we will discuss.

this all the article dedicated to lalla salma by the morocan magazine tel quel:
in the cover:
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page1:
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page2:
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page3:
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page4:
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page5:
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page6:
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:22 PM
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again in the gala dinner but remarque in this foto,her sister is sit in at the same table of lalla salma she's in the right of the photo and she wore a black caftan this about the first one in the right and after her there is two ladies and then lalla salma



she imposes her family in social activities, her sister at this dinner, and her uncle is a member of her saaociation
she want that her family benefit if big advantages, it's a shame
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Samia I think you're pushing it too far!!!

She has the perfect right to work with members of her own family. You just want to criticise for criticising!!!!! ANd these two members of her family are doctors that's why they are involved in what she is working for with her association. And to top all that she's working with a lot of people and only two members of her family.

Secondly, tel quel is very well known for criticising the royal family when they think there's something wrong with it. Everyone knows in morocco that it is a very good newspaper. One of the only ones that doen't always praise the royal family.
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Samia I think you're pushing it too far!!!

She has the perfect right to work with members of her own family. You just want to criticise for criticising!!!!! ANd these two members of her family are doctors that's why they are involved in what she is working for with her association. And to top all that she's working with a lot of people and only two members of her family.

Secondly, tel quel is very well known for criticising the royal family when they think there's something wrong with it. Everyone knows in morocco that it is a very good newspaper. One of the only ones that doen't always praise the royal family.
well said and that is true , her sister is a doctor ...
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Old 07-05-2006, 01:55 AM
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Both her sister and her uncle are doctors.
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:23 PM
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Personally, I find the article of telquel interesting, the journalist was enough critical
It isn't common to read in a Moroccan newspaper that Lalla Salma was a shy numb (une godiche timide), and it isn't common to read that her look wasn't nice
It’s confirm what I always said about the lack of taste of this princess and also about her way to be in public that isn't at all elegant (for what I saw several times on TV, and the last one was in Thailand)
It’s regrettable that the laws in Morocco are very hard against the journalists who want to say all the truth (the site of “reporters without borders” is eloquent about the lot of who passes the limits imposed by the power), because I think that this journalist would be able to say more about Lalla Salma
she could say that in spite of the relooking, often she is doing errors of taste, the last one was at the charity dinner, her earrings didn’t suit what she wore in first, and didn’t suit her at all in second (because she has a long face), and at the welcome of the Chinese president, her hairs were in a pitiful condition, about her way to be, she still, passes to an extreme at other (passive, then overexcited), she don't know yet, how to make a conversation
about her social activities, the journalist say that the king requested the most important businessmen of Morocco, to make that the "lalla salma association" will be a success, and the last episode of this farce, is that she was appointed as ambassador of the OMS of the area of oriental Mediterranean
As said the magazine, the palace wants, to built an image for lalla salma, she is a passive lady, then, now she must appear as a hard working lady and all the means are used for built this image, it must to be a very naïve person to believe at this swindle
Rosa, I must respectively disagree with you. A "lazy" and passive person would not graduate valedictorian of her Math and Computer Science curriculum in a male oriented culture. Lalla Salma and her sister both were excellent students, and accomplished. It is natural that they would have the ability to help steer a cancer foundation. You cannot be stupid and graduate at the top of your class at an elite school. You don't like her I get that. She may even be shy and lack self confidence but lazy, passive and a farce, I respectively disagree.
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When judgements of a person are based on something as ridiculous and trivial as earrings (of all things!) there is very little scope for reasoned or intelligent discussion.
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