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I think that even if it's a royal family some things are as in all families, the only one who can push him to marry is his mother
rosa, could explain this please. you know, the princes and princesses grow up far from their mother since they were 1 yr old or so, each in a separate residence. so i don't know which relation they have with their mother?
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:04 PM
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rosa, could explain this please. you know, the princes and princesses grow up far from their mother since they were 1 yr old or so, each in a separate residence. so i don't know which relation they have with their mother?
What?Zineb,are you sure of what you are seeing?The princes and princesses weren't brougt up by their mom???
If this is true,I am a really sad for them and their mom
Everybody needs a mom and each mother has the right to live with her babies.
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:11 PM
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What?Zineb,are you sure of what you are seeing?The princes and princesses weren't brougt up by their mom???
If this is true,I am a really sad for them and their mom
Everybody needs a mom and each mother has the right to live with her babies.
yes, that's true soraya. the babies were with their mom for a year or a year and a half. after that, they were living in a separate residence. not even with each other! i was sad when i read it in one of the moroccan magazines. i will look for the article and post it here. i couldn't believe it and still don't understand why hassan II did ask for something like that
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Old 01-30-2009, 07:26 PM
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Then if it's true,I am very sad for all them
But the princes and princesses sem very close and happy when they are together.
If what you said is true,they were may be able to develop a close relation with their mom and with each other after king Hassan II' s death.
I have the chance to have been brought up by my mom so I can't be a good judge.But,I know that some persons who were separated from their mom early in their life keep lot of respect for her,they even tend to idealize her if her image wasn't distorted by those who educated them.
I still hope that this is possible.
I just hope that moulay Rachid will make a love marriage as his brother did.
Everybody needs his share of love
Sorry if I offend someone's opinion but arranged marriage are silly in my opinion specially in our actual time
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Old 01-31-2009, 08:38 AM
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rosa, could explain this please. you know, the princes and princesses grow up far from their mother since they were 1 yr old or so, each in a separate residence. so i don't know which relation they have with their mother?
I read once that after M6 became the king, he watched on what did his mother, and when lalla latifa remarked this she told moulay rachid to make a thing against that, and then it was a quarrel between the two brothers
according to what I read I always though that lalla latifa was close with her youngest son
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Old 01-31-2009, 11:06 AM
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i am not sur of what you read but i know that Moulay Rachid and M6 are very very close together,true that the king and his mom relation has some up and down until last year (last April) when king past his vacation with his wife and children in his mom home in Paris and they make thing clear between them i guess.
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Old 01-31-2009, 11:56 AM
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i am not sur of what you read but i know that Moulay Rachid and M6 are very very close together,true that the king and his mom relation has some up and down until last year (last April) when king past his vacation with his wife and children in his mom home in Paris and they make thing clear between them i guess.

I don't know if what was writting was true at 100%, but the two brothers cloud be very close before M6 became the king and perhaps that after their relations had some up and down
I read also, (but I can't remember in what newspaper) that moulay rachid wasn't happy because his brother don't give him a big role in the kingdom
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:36 PM
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in every relationcheap rosa there is up and down it's normal i guess,
strange how you read alot sometimes you don't know what's is the thruth i read that their relation became stronger when M6 become a king because of the big support from all the sibilings to M6,and i read one of his rare interview (i don't remember the newspapper)where he said that works he like the most are mission his brother ask him to accomplish.
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:07 PM
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thanks rosa. i didn't know that. it's rare to come across a story or something which shows the type of the relation latifa has with her children.
as for rachid' support to m6, aicha (her aunt) and hasna said also in their interview, they are behind m6 and they support his work. i don't expect they say publicly they disagree with m6. the only person who did, is hicham and he has his own arguments. if rachid is very ambitious (at least about his role in morocco), he could have a lot of discussion with his brother.
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Old 02-01-2009, 07:02 AM
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Personally, I remark that the men who have a plenty of beautiful girls in their life, have difficulties to choose between all the beauties that surround them, a day they like a blonde, a day after a brunette,..etc, and finally they let their mom choose for them.
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:34 AM
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I read in malika oufkir book, that H2 preferred women with a lot of temper than the too pretty, and he wasn’t in love with lalla latifa when he choose her, but he was impress that she knew what she wanted (she said him that if he don’t give her the chance to be mother, she preferred come back to her family than stay at the palace as a concubine), if MR has the same taste than his father (I heard and read often that he has the same character), perhaps that at the time to choose, he will don’t focus a lot on the beauty, but on the character, and to be in love won’t be a criteria to choose, but the admiration, yes.
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IF rachid likes to be surrounded by girls, i think this has to be changed if he is considering a serious relation with someone, he wants to marry and build a happy family.
i read somewhere h2 did have some 40 women, and i think latifa wasn't happy. so i hope rachid will not follow his father habit
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:40 AM
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I read also this book, and the description that malika oufkir make about lalla latifa show a very proud lady, not beautiful but with a lot of charisma, I read also on the net that forsake by her husband, she had an affair with Mohamed mediouri, that indicate that she was a head woman, and she wasn’t afraid by H2. But I wonder if at this epoque, the king’s wife was a public personage, H2 would choose her, not sure that he would take the risk to give the title of princess for a woman with an astonishing character.
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:40 AM
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Personally, I remark that the men who have a plenty of beautiful girls in their life, have difficulties to choose between all the beauties that surround them, a day they like a blonde, a day after a brunette,..etc, and finally they let their mom choose for them.
I agree with you Rosa, it is hard to set your mind straight when there is a lot of demand around you. I am sure many single girls are aiming to be with HRH Prince Moulay Rachid.
It is very hard when you know that everyone is eventualy saying yes to any of your propositions.
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:44 AM
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One should not forget that we can not beleive everything that we read in books and magazines... Stories differ so much depending on the person who wrote the article or the book.
And it is pointless to criticise them anyway, no one is getting anything from it I beleive.
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:43 AM
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One should not forget that we can not beleive everything that we read in books and magazines... Stories differ so much depending on the person who wrote the article or the book.
And it is pointless to criticise them anyway, no one is getting anything from it I beleive.

I agree that it’s difficult to know what is true and what isn’t, but imo it is the reverse of the medal, since official media make all to give a perfect picture of the member of the MRF( when they aren’t better than other people), and don’t allow anyone to know what happen behind the walls of the palace. Then, the writers take their info where they can, with the risk that their source can be doubtful
Personally, I prefer to have info of many sources than only the official commentaries
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Old 02-02-2009, 12:26 PM
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the official media don't bring any analysis at all for MRF events. they have to be called officially the "PALACE media". they throw the news without any analysis. you can understand how those media frame public discussion of an issue or not, and what topics are covered and what topics are ignored. it's clear that their role is to create the perfect image for the MRF. however the MRF are human being and they are subject also to ERRORS, MISTAKES, BIG mistakes and so. if the media in morocco has more freedom, you could see MRF acts, personalities, characters and behaviors subject to deep analysis, and moroccan ppl could know well by whom they are governed.

as for now, who can speaks about what happen behind the walls of the palace, other than someone who lives or lived there?
hopefully, there are some serious foreign writers who did a good job while writing about moroccan' kings. and even they don't live in the palace, they have enough material to build good analysis on kings' work and interesting details about MRF life.
if still we can't believe those books/magazines, then i'm waiting to see MRF autobiographies or memories, where they say whatever they want

i agree with you rosa, it's good to have info of many sources than only the official commentaries, which imo they aren't 100% accurate. and you know at the end of the day, it isn't difficult to recognise stupid things and blabla and ppl do make their own judgment.
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To come back to the subject of the thread, I think it's difficult to imagine how kind of girl MR can choose, because we don't know his tastes
Once, I read in a Spanish newspaper, that the better description of MR was made by Tucquoi in his book “the last king”, he was described as a hard worker and a big lover of women, but I don't know if there were more details.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:29 PM
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if what it was said is true, then i believe his rank as a prince does help him a lot to be surrounded by women, and maybe it's also due to some kind of appeal he has. however i would love to know which kind of girls surround him. we don't have to forget that many women could love him just bcz he is a prince. so i'm not sure if the expected wife will be one of those and i think he wants to figure out where is the true love and a woman with real qualities.

as it does happen in some european royal houses, i don't know if he is receiving lists of "good candidates".
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