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Old 10-27-2006, 06:20 PM
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I don't know what it was with the other wives. No one does except Sheikh Mo and the women themselves. The point being that he has never allowed his wife to be publicly acknowledged as much as Haya, so we really don't know anything about the women themselves or what their personal situations were.
For the same reason that you assume that he took a 4th wife because he loved her,you can't speculate that he didn't took the three first wives for the same reason just because they are not publicly acknowleged.

As dazzling stated before,Haya was already in the public eye,as,and she appeared already with Mo while she was secretly dating him,and everybody knew that she was working for Sheikh Mo,so how he could hide her,he had no choice
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Old 10-27-2006, 08:27 PM
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I have an easier time accepting love in a marriage when we have photographic proof of their mutual affection (Royal Ascot, several other equestrian events where they are obviously happy and comfortable in each other's presence) than speculating on the happiness or sadness of a marriage with either woman that he is now divorced from where there is no photo evidence.
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:30 PM
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Also, what "reputation" does Haya have? What has she done? (Not trying to be smart, I really haven't heard of anything and am curious)

All I have to say is don't buy too much into the whole "reputation" hype. None of the rumors, to my knowledge have been proven true. Welcome to the forums, by the way.
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:34 PM
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All I have to say is don't buy too much into the whole "reputation" hype. None of the rumors, to my knowledge have been proven true. Welcome to the forums, by the way.
no one can buy into them, but they do start from somewhere. as hard as people try not to believe them they cant be proven.
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:43 PM
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no one can buy into them, but they do start from somewhere. as hard as people try not to believe them they cant be proven.

First off, let me start by saying hello...I didn't get the chance to do that. Many a people have bought into it. I know because I have been on here long enough to see people's opinions start off one way, and then change completely thanks to those very same rumors. My thing is, why believe something about someone that may or may not be true? How is that fair? I mean everyone deserves the benefit of doubt. Unfortunately, Haya hasn't always been given that. I agree they start from somewhere, but we don't know the whos and whys they were started, or even if they are true. You know people love to talk. I suppose it's human nature.
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First off, let me start by saying hello...I didn't get the chance to do that. Many a people have bought into it. I know because I have been on here long enough to see people's opinions start off one way, and then change completely thanks to those very same rumors. My thing is, why believe something about someone that may or may not be true? How is that fair? I mean everyone deserves the benefit of doubt. Unfortunately, Haya hasn't always been given that. I agree they start from somewhere, but we don't know the whos and whys they were started, or even if they are true. You know people love to talk. I suppose it's human nature.
Im not here to change anyones opinion about Haya or her husband or about anyone. im not here to start rumors or problems, just here to share information with others.
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Kimebear & Sommone thank you for being voices of logic & reason.
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Old 10-28-2006, 10:58 AM
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Im not here to change anyones opinion about Haya or her husband or about anyone. im not here to start rumors or problems, just here to share information with others.

Ok....I merely told Kimebear not to buy into the hype. I don't recall accusing you of persuading anyone's opinion, or starting problems. If you thought this, then I'm sorry you misunderstood me. I'm not looking to cause problems either. You are always entitled to your opinion and such. I just voiced my opinion too. Just for the record, when I said people love to talk, I wasn't talking about you. I was speaking of the people who got the rumors about Princess Haya's reputation started.
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Old 10-28-2006, 01:03 PM
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Ok....I merely told Kimebear not to buy into the hype. I don't recall accusing you of persuading anyone's opinion, or starting problems. If you thought this, then I'm sorry you misunderstood me. I'm not looking to cause problems either. You are always entitled to your opinion and such. I just voiced my opinion too. Just for the record, when I said people love to talk, I wasn't talking about you. I was speaking of the people who got the rumors about Princess Haya's reputation started.
Misunderstanding than, sorry
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Old 10-28-2006, 04:32 PM
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I have an easier time accepting love in a marriage when we have photographic proof of their mutual affection (Royal Ascot, several other equestrian events where they are obviously happy and comfortable in each other's presence) than speculating on the happiness or sadness of a marriage with either woman that he is now divorced from where there is no photo evidence.

So u prefer judging a book from it cover?How many times we have seen fairytale photos of some royals posing,then we knew about their reality later...


And other thing,how do u know that he's divorced from his previous wives,as far as I know,nobody knows something about them...and anyway divorced or not,nobody can't speculate that there haven't been any love story with those women who gave him children,just because you didn't see them or know something about them,and now that because we see Haya with him,it doesn't mean she's the love of his life,too beautiful to be true,if regarding Sheikh's Mo past with his different wives.
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As for seeming happy on his wedding day, show me an official photo of this man where he is smiling. I haven't seen one.
Here are some pictures of Sheikh Moahmmed smiling/looking happy

http://www.fzaa3team.com/Dawnld/uploads/839fc24e49.jpg

http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=41818 (with his son sheikh hamdan in blue, behind hamdan Sheikh Maktoums son and behind him is Sheikh Ahmed sheikh Mohammeds son)

http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=41811
http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=24431 (sheikh Rashed in the background)
http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=41783
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Old 10-28-2006, 05:54 PM
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You call that smiling? I do not see any feeling in this physiognomy.
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the pic with sheikh rashid in the background.....absolutely frightening. i forget who asked, but sheikh mo is NOT divorced from sheikha hind. couldn't say about the other wives. if we are judging a relationship by pics, there were some posted a couple of months ago with haya and mo. (some horsie thing). you could have kept ice cream frozen on the chill surrounding their body language.

remember, dazzling, some pics need to be posted with a warning before being opened. (lol)
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You call that smiling? I do not see any feeling in this physiognomy.
I dont mean to be rude or anything but what would you call that? Well, to me, he looks happy in those pictures. Its not always likely to see a picture of sheikh mohammed smiling, but he does.
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i forget who asked, but sheikh mo is NOT divorced from sheikha hind. couldn't say about the other wives.
Sheikh Mohammed is not divorced from sheikha Hind and for anybodys information she is higher than Haya in the country (im not talking about title) He is also married to sheik Majeds, sheikha Maiths mother who is hardly heard of.

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if we are judging a relationship by pics, there were some posted a couple of months ago with haya and mo. (some horsie thing). you could have kept ice cream frozen on the chill surrounding their body language.
True. In many of the Ascot pictures, it looked like Haya was being dragged along or walking a few steps behind him when she shouldve been walking next to him. No only that, but also when at the horse sales in the United States, there was no body language at all. to me, it looked like she was his employee who had to attend, always looking at the cameras.
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So u prefer judging a book from it cover?How many times we have seen fairytale photos of some royals posing,then we knew about their reality later...
This why I mentioned no one can determine really anything about anyone's life just by looking at photos. They just capture a sec of someone's life.

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Old 10-29-2006, 04:06 AM
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I dont mean to be rude or anything but what would you call that? Well, to me, he looks happy in those pictures. Its not always likely to see a picture of sheikh mohammed smiling, but he does.
As miss b said he looks rather frightening on those pictures than sincerely smiling.
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As miss b said he looks rather frightening on those pictures than sincerely smiling.
You do have a point, but the angle of the picture taken isnt a good one, there are good and bad pictures of people, im not going to argue about it. but what about the other pictures?not smiling too?Its rare to see pictures of Sheikh Mohammed smiling and when we do, they dont fall into the category of "smiling".
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The most important in the story is DOES Haya really add something to Dubai?
Some people keep saying that Sheikh Mohamed wanted her to be his public wife,and to give a modern image of Dubai royals,but Is that really true?Dubai is what it is,a very modern place with a very traditional society,where some 80% popualtion are not locals,and the locals prefer their local first wife Sheika Hind,and I belive that Haya won't change anything in that,considered by some the first lady or not.
It's not a question of what Haya has done for or has not done for Dubai. Her influence lies in the international realm, particularly Europe and the wider equestrian world. Sheikh Mohammed has concerns in that realm for obvious reasons. Look how much he has invested in it. You're right, I believe, in that he has other wives who are more popular and loved within dubai. He has Haya for the international stage.

As I have said before, I am not saying he does not love Haya or that I have an opinion about that. My opinion on that extends very little, that I think he and Haya are at the very least, "in like" and perhaps in love. I do think they are friends, at the least very good friends, and perhaps have a much more special, deeper bond. The advantage that she brings to the international perspective for Dubai is probably just a bonus. I have no doubts about the genuineness (is that a word?) of their feelings for each other.
That said, I imagine he won't have anymore wives.
These forums have really changed my opinion about polygamy as practiced within the Islamic faith. Far from being on the verge of converting to Islam and becoming a wife in a polygamous marriage I will say that I am opening up to the idea of the advantages to the Islamic polygamous traditions: The most important advantage, I feel, is that it keeps families together even after parents have grown apart or fallen out of love. There has to be something said for adding to one's family as opposed to subtracting from it!
However, there is a flipside, of course. Why can't it be Equal Oppurtunity? Can a wife of Sheikh Mohammed have another husband?
I doubt it, but she should be able to.
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It's not a question of what Haya has done for or has not done for Dubai. Her influence lies in the international realm, particularly Europe and the wider equestrian world. Sheikh Mohammed has concerns in that realm for obvious reasons. Look how much he has invested in it. You're right, I believe, in that he has other wives who are more popular and loved within dubai. He has Haya for the international stage.
Well i understand your feeling. But in Islam there are certain rule that a guy should follow before he do the polygami. But i believe that it need much longer thread to discuss about this. Since this is the thread of the Sheikh's wives, so here's my opinion.

I think, what the Sheikh did is very common among the Arabic ruler. I'm sure that you aware that King Abdul Aziz, the father of the present King of Saudi have 17 wives. King Hussein of Jordan also have more than one wives. So it's not a big deal for me. And i believe that Sheikh Mohammed's other wife is already know the consequence of being married with Arabic Sheikh. Beside, for me, it's better to own view wives than many mistresses.
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