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Old 10-23-2006, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio
Ok, thank you for sharing that. I understand now. I also understand now why on her official site she uses only the title she was born with.
So only the first wife of the sheikh is "sheikha"(sp), is that right?

First, second third and fourth wife can be "a sheikha" but only when Married and its been announced. Its usually not given when the sheikh marry's in a very low ceremony or without anyones knowledge (something like a secret marriage).

Old 12-30-2006, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Veram98
You cannot compare Muslim royals or princes with royals in Europe, where a woman marrying a prince is sharing his title almost automatically or gets at least another title (like Camilla). In Muslim countries it is rather unusual that she gets a new title, she usually becomes just “the wife of” and keeps the title she had before (if she had one). Most of the spouses of sheikhs in the Gulf region or Saudi princes for example are sheikhas or princesses because they were members of the same royal or princely families as their husbands and got the title by birth (marrying later a more or less distant cousin like Sheikha Hind). Of course, a ruler can confer such a title to a wife if he wants to honor her this way. Lalla Salma was the first wife of a Maroccan king to be bestowed with the title of a princess (not queen). But why should a royal princess like Haya want to become a lower-ranking sheikha?

The Hashemites are following special rules – more familiar to Westeners: in Jordan the wife of the prince becomes a princess of Jordan and her royal highness and takes on the name of her husband: PP Alia al-Faisal, Reem Ali, Noor Hamzah etc. and, of course, Queen Rania al-Abdullah or Noor al-Hussein. But this is the exception in the Arab world – as well as the title queen for the consort of a king.
Thank you for the information. I have read this thread with interest. It amazes me the debate that PH's marriage to SheikhMo brings to these forums - either people approve or they don't.

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Someone help me--why isn't she sheikha haya?
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What is more power-name, sheika or princess? Does somebody know?
Old 09-24-2007, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ines View Post
What is more power-name, sheika or princess? Does somebody know?
Princess outranks both Sheikh and Sheikha. Shk & Shka are for "Ruling" families whereas Princess and Prince are for "Royal" families.

Also, Haya is a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad, huge plus compared to any Shk. or Shka.


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