Princess Haya- News & Picture Thread, Part II

[El Jood]

Originally Posted by Jorja Fox

This is just so typical, the view of a uae local which is sad and pathetic.People here got furious, literally, when he married her, throwing sarcastic rough jokes about her and Jordanian ppl, these jokes made Mo so mad that he threatened to punish whom ever exchanges text messages involving these jokes, rumors said he did catch a bunch. There are 2 powerful newspapers here: "Al Kahleej" resides in Sharjah and "Al Bayan" resides in Dubai and it belongs to the government of Dubai or in another words to al Maktoums.In "Al Khaleej", they announced the wedding news on the first page in a tiny space hardly seen and through the days, this newspaper never did respect Haya.She appeared so many times whether with him or his kids, hardly mentioned and sometimes described as his wife only, no Royal Highness or anything which is very insulted. Another magazine, "Kul Ussra" is part of "Al Khaleej" newspaper, ignores Haya and the Royal Family of Jordan totally though in the last issue, theres a pic of her and Mo where she was mentioned as his wife HRH Princess Haya."Al Sada" is a part of "Al Bayan" newspaper, over the years they kept writing about Haya, so many interviews and reports about her. Otherwise, the media here isn’t giving Haya the credit she deserves or at least since she married Mo.The Dubai sport channel used to cover her activities a lot, I have an interview with her dates back to 2 years ago but since she got married, nothing here is about her. Just today, "Al Khaleej" released an issue about Mo being a crown prince of Dubai for 10 years, (with a poster too!), didn’t mention Haya at all while we see his spoiled kids here and there.

It is sad enough to say that uae locals here feel superior to other Arab nationalties, esp. Jordanians, Palestanian and Egyptians and is some less level to Asians. They only see Haya as a Jordanian who’s sucker for bucks. I remember when they got married, girls at college discussed that in a class, and it’s really a shame the way they are thinking. Frankly, though am a uae local myself, Haya deserves much better than Mo, she is educated and intelligent, her title is even higher than Mo's, Mo is only His Highness while she is a Royal Highness, good for her she didn’t change her title. She never wanted to represent the uae and she never said she would, I don’t see any royal women representing the uae at all, I've been living here my entire life and never saw any "Sheikha", we hear about them but never see them! Don’t tell me Sheikha Maitha,( the karate kid!), is in the press, in a couple of years she'll disappear. Bottom line, it doesn’t matter if locals here don’t accept her, as long as he accepts her and she is confident enough to do her duty. So Kudos to Haya!

1. Let us talk about the media policy....This has been direted by sh. Mohammed and if he wanted her to be in media that would of been done but as far as i know it was his instructions.

2. The whole UAE ppl knew that he was under pressure when he married her... he has been seen with her since 2002 , she has been living in dubai and King Abdullah requeested that they should get married because alot or rumors has been going around. not forgetting that she has been working in dubai since that time.

3. UAE people are not against any other Arab nationalitu but its our culture we dont mix with other cultures and its the same So many Lebanse dont like getting married to syrians
so many Palestinians and ppl i know dont get married to jordanians plus they are close Geographical....Its is not common for the gulf people to marry from other countries is more common the marry from each other.... This is the Culture...

4.(( Haya deserves much better than Mo, she is educated and intelligent ))
this doesnt make her better.... King abdullah is Educated and intteligent look at the differnce between DUBAI and JORDAN and you will know who is really intelligent

5. ((her title is even higher than Mo's, Mo is only His Highness while she is a Royal Highness ))
This doesnt make her Higher the King Of Bahrain changed his Title In one day he was a sheikh he became a KING
each country has its own way in Giving titles and this is the way UAE gives the titles to the royal families.

6.(( I don’t see any royal women representing the uae at all ))
you definately don't read the papers, Sheikha Hind and other sheikhas in DUBAI and the UAE represnt the uae women and Strongly...but with no pictures and for sheikha Maitha you recognised her Just because of her pictures.

7.I've been living here my entire life and never saw any "Sheikha", we hear about them but never see them

I doubt that you live in UAE because ATLEAST everyday there is and event and a sheikha Attends in one of the emirates and as in dubai Sheikha Hind is almost once or twice a week in the papers (( without Pictures ))


8. it doesn’t matter if locals here don’t accept her, as long as he accepts her and she is confident enough to do her duty.

Beleive me it matters for her...how would she live in a place when people don't accpet her!!!!!
as for duty....she has one and it is being a wife Full STop nothing else.

Its not that we dislike her for no reason.... If your father married another lady would you like it>> I doubt it...sheikh mohammed is a father to each and every person in dubai.... and he always gave us the image of one happy family so its really sad seeing some intuder spoiling this....
I dont say she is the only one to blame but people love him and will love him despite what happens...
But would never love her... I think she has no ethics or morals...I cant imagen a princess doing so...selling her self into this.... just because of the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
i used to admire her before,... but this really changed....
if she got married to a sheikh from the uae who is not married beleive me nothing of this would of happened it would be weired but it will be over but she got married to a man with a happy family and beautifl kids....
can you imagen how they feel????
Look at the situaion from all the angles and i am sure you will think differnetly even if you wont admitt it.

[sommone]

4.(( Haya deserves much better than Mo, she is educated and intelligent ))
this doesnt make her better.... King abdullah is Educated and intteligent look at the differnce between DUBAI and JORDAN and you will know who is really intelligent


I beg to differ in this instance...UAE has oil...Jordan doesn't. That is one of the main differences between the two as far as why Dubai is more modern than Jordan. I applaud KH and KA perserverance in trying to make Jordan a better place for its people. I'm sure if Jordan had oil bringing in money for them, they would prosper too.

[Humera]

Originally Posted by El Jood

3. UAE people are not against any other Arab nationalitu but its our culture we dont mix with other cultures and its the same So many Lebanse dont like getting married to syrians
so many Palestinians and ppl i know dont get married to jordanians plus they are close Geographical....Its is not common for the gulf people to marry from other countries is more common the marry from each other.... This is the Culture...

If I were Princess Haya, I wouldn't want approval and accolades from people who think "outsiders" like her aren't worthy enough to marry sheikh muhammad.
Sure the UAE is more prosperous than Jordan and other Arab nations, but progress isnt just about how good a country is doing economically. Acceptance and tolerance of those who are different is also a big part of it. If Arabs treat each other in such a discriminatory manner, they have no right to complain when they're mistreated in the west.
Besides, if people in the gulf dont marry outside their culture, thats no valid reason to hate Haya. To me it shows a backwardness in thinking. This is the twenty-first century for heavens sake.

if she got married to a sheikh from the uae who is not married beleive me nothing of this would of happened it would be weired but it will be over but she got married to a man with a happy family and beautifl kids....
can you imagen how they feel????
Look at the situaion from all the angles and i am sure you will think differnetly even if you wont admitt it.

Why is the woman always to blame if she marries a polygamous man?
Are you telling me Princess Haya forced Sheikh Muhammad into marriage?
Polygamous marriages aren't that rare in the gulf or in the Middle East.
Why treat Haya's marriage differently? If Sheikh Muhammad was so content with his "happy family and beautiful kids" then he shouldnt have married Haya in the first place. It takes two consenting adults to enter into a marriage so dont put the blame squarely on Haya's shoulders.

[wymanda]

I haven't been to Dubai but from what I have seen on TV etc it seems that it is becoming very cosmopolitan whereas Jordan, which I visited 3 years ago still has much of its ancient atmosphere to savour. The Jordan area is ancient and I doubt that Dubai has places like Jerash & Petra to offer. From what I have seen Dubai is famous for it's shopping and "modern improvements"

[Guess Who]

Originally Posted by sommone

4.(( Haya deserves much better than Mo, she is educated and intelligent ))
this doesnt make her better.... King abdullah is Educated and intteligent look at the differnce between DUBAI and JORDAN and you will know who is really intelligent


I beg to differ in this instance...UAE has oil...Jordan doesn't. That is one of the main differences between the two as far as why Dubai is more modern than Jordan. I applaud KH and KA perserverance in trying to make Jordan a better place for its people. I'm sure if Jordan had oil bringing in money for them, they would prosper too.

The UAE has oil, but we are talking about Abu Dhabi(the capital only), Dubai ran out of oil long ago, thats why they are depending on building it real fat, what they have from tourism, hotels and the festivel's i smainly their income. Dubai was built modern, people worked hard to take it up, we didnt come to earth and Dubai was built.So Jordan can do the same thing if they really wanted too.But im sorry to say, the money they get goes into their pocket money instead of spending it on their country.

[sommone]

Guess Who The UAE has oil, but we are talking about Abu Dhabi(the capital only), Dubai ran out of oil long ago, thats why they are depending on building it real fat, what they have from tourism, hotels and the festivel's i smainly their income.

*Still they had oil to get them started...Jordan never had any oil...period, and very few, if any natural resources.

Dubai was built modern, people worked hard to take it up, we didnt come to earth and Dubai was built.

* Really? As if I thought that.


So Jordan can do the same thing if they really wanted too.But im sorry to say, the money they get goes into their pocket money instead of spending it on their country.[/quote]

*That is a matter of opinion, and you are right, Jordan can make their country even better, and they are trying...that's why I applaud their effort. The whole money issue is rumor...I don't deal in those.

[igniya]

Yes Dubai is doing very well but let us not forget that Dubai is backed and supported by Abu Dhabi.

[sommone]

Originally Posted by igniya

Yes Dubai is doing very well but let us not forget that Dubai is backed and supported by Abu Dhabi.

Didn't know that.

[La la]

Originally Posted by sommone

Didn't know that.

And Jordan is supported by the States. However, after the power shift in Abu Dhabi I'm not sure there's much cash flowing in from Abu Dhabi anyway.

[La la]

Originally Posted by El Jood

.... King abdullah is Educated and intteligent

I'm not sure if I'm with you one this one.

[La la]

Originally Posted by wymanda

I haven't been to Dubai but from what I have seen on TV etc it seems that it is becoming very cosmopolitan whereas Jordan, which I visited 3 years ago still has much of its ancient atmosphere to savour. The Jordan area is ancient and I doubt that Dubai has places like Jerash & Petra to offer. From what I have seen Dubai is famous for it's shopping and "modern improvements"

Dubai is not a country. If you want a taste of anything ancient, Islamic art, true Bedouin hospitality you probably have to head for Sharjah or beyond.

[Jorja Fox]

Originally Posted by El Jood

1. Let us talk about the media policy....This has been direted by sh. Mohammed and if he wanted her to be in media that would of been done but as far as i know it was his instructions.

2. The whole UAE ppl knew that he was under pressure when he married her... he has been seen with her since 2002 , she has been living in dubai and King Abdullah requeested that they should get married because alot or rumors has been going around. not forgetting that she has been working in dubai since that time.

3. UAE people are not against any other Arab nationalitu but its our culture we dont mix with other cultures and its the same So many Lebanse dont like getting married to syrians
so many Palestinians and ppl i know dont get married to jordanians plus they are close Geographical....Its is not common for the gulf people to marry from other countries is more common the marry from each other.... This is the Culture...

4.(( Haya deserves much better than Mo, she is educated and intelligent ))
this doesnt make her better.... King abdullah is Educated and intteligent look at the differnce between DUBAI and JORDAN and you will know who is really intelligent

5. ((her title is even higher than Mo's, Mo is only His Highness while she is a Royal Highness ))
This doesnt make her Higher the King Of Bahrain changed his Title In one day he was a sheikh he became a KING
each country has its own way in Giving titles and this is the way UAE gives the titles to the royal families.

6.(( I don’t see any royal women representing the uae at all ))
you definately don't read the papers, Sheikha Hind and other sheikhas in DUBAI and the UAE represnt the uae women and Strongly...but with no pictures and for sheikha Maitha you recognised her Just because of her pictures.

7.I've been living here my entire life and never saw any "Sheikha", we hear about them but never see them

I doubt that you live in UAE because ATLEAST everyday there is and event and a sheikha Attends in one of the emirates and as in dubai Sheikha Hind is almost once or twice a week in the papers (( without Pictures ))


8. it doesn’t matter if locals here don’t accept her, as long as he accepts her and she is confident enough to do her duty.

Beleive me it matters for her...how would she live in a place when people don't accpet her!!!!!
as for duty....she has one and it is being a wife Full STop nothing else.

Its not that we dislike her for no reason.... If your father married another lady would you like it>> I doubt it...sheikh mohammed is a father to each and every person in dubai.... and he always gave us the image of one happy family so its really sad seeing some intuder spoiling this....
I dont say she is the only one to blame but people love him and will love him despite what happens...
But would never love her... I think she has no ethics or morals...I cant imagen a princess doing so...selling her self into this.... just because of the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
i used to admire her before,... but this really changed....
if she got married to a sheikh from the uae who is not married beleive me nothing of this would of happened it would be weired but it will be over but she got married to a man with a happy family and beautifl kids....
can you imagen how they feel????
Look at the situaion from all the angles and i am sure you will think differnetly even if you wont admitt it.

1-As far as I know he isn’t the minister of information but since he controls the media (lack of democracy ppl!),he should at least make sure to mention her name in a proper way, her full title not just his wife or not mentioning her at all.

2-A sheikh cant be married under pressure ,plz ,esp if he is old ,mature and powerful like Mo, from the way you are seeing it, Mo is the in the position of power,not King Abdulla, I won't write the silly jokes or comments that are made whenever Abdullah visits the UAE, it shows how you guys think that Mo has it all in his hands so how could "poor "Abdullah force him to marry his sister? Unless Mo wants that ,in the way he and al Maktoum hunger for women, and am saying that in the most respectful way I can.

3-Here if I can quote form Humera: Acceptance and tolerance of those who are different is also a big part of it. If Arabs treat each other in such a discriminatory manner, they have no right to complain when they're mistreated in the west.
Besides, if people in the gulf dont marry outside their culture, thats no valid reason to hate Haya. To me it shows a backwardness in thinking. This is the twenty-first century for heavens sake.End of quote. Locals don’t have anything against other Arabs? Who you are kidding? Its not about our culture, its about a superior thinking of you guys have, the culture is totally innocent. Yes, it show backwardness, big time.

4.You are getting this point wrong, am talking about a cultural level, she is much better ,her top education worths the whole bunch of all Maktoums, esp the old generation like Mo ,he doesn’t have a decent real degree and education. The difference between Jordan and the UAE can explained in one word: Oil. How was the UAE b4?Remember the history lessons we took? Simply nothing where Jordan, oil or no oil, has a culture. Do we have places like Jersh and Petra? No such big places, in Al Ain or RAK, a little here and there but not a well known civilization .I quote from wymanda: The Jordan area is ancient and I doubt that Dubai has places like Jerash & Petra to offer. From what I have seen Dubai is famous for it's shopping and "modern improvements", end of quote.

5-I know this but this still makes her higher, if not, King of Bahrain wouldn’t change from a Sheikh to a King. In KSA, they are royals but there are also Sheikhs there who are wealthy, rich ppl, not from a royal family.

6-I do read newspaper,the point is mentioned by you where are the pics ?Why they aren’t being photographed? For God sakes, we see first ladies and Sheikhas in Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait even KSA ,why not here? Its funny and sad though, that one of the criticism I hear about Abdullah is that he "takes" Rania everywhere with him! Silly yet clarifies how the ppl think and why the Sheikhas aren’t photographed.

6-A quote from you: Its not that we dislike her for no reason.... If your father married another lady would you like it>> I doubt it...sheikh mohammed is a father to each and every person in dubai.... and he always gave us the image of one happy family so its really sad seeing some intuder spoiling this....end of quote.This father of your got married several times, why it didn’t bother you before? Did or can you count his wives? Or the al Maktoums? Should I mention here what Maktoum, the ruler of Dubai does when he marries teenage girls, divorcing them months later and not letting them get married again? How sick,I didn’t see this bothering you either. Really, how many times he got married but no words were uttered but since Haya is a Royal and Jordanian this drove you guys nuts. Whether you consider him your father or not, he already has tons of sons! Gee, don’t know how many, each time a son "pops" up in some event or a daughter writes in a newspaper an article or patronizes some event and we never knew her before. Frankly, I never thought his family is representing a happy family, not at all. Your father is married like zillion times, tons of kids, hatred between the wives, sorry but I missed the word "happy".

Again I quote from Humera : Why is the woman always to blame if she marries a polygamous man?
Are you telling me Princess Haya forced Sheikh Muhammad into marriage?
Polygamous marriages aren't that rare in the gulf or in the Middle East.
Why treat Haya's marriage differently? If Sheikh Muhammad was so content with his "happy family and beautiful kids" then he shouldn’t have married Haya in the first place. It takes two consenting adults to enter into a marriage so don’t put the blame squarely on Haya's shoulders. End of quote. Couldn’t said it better myself.

This sad way of thinking is the one that suffers from the lack of ethics and morals. The Maktoum palaces is packed with "Hareem" being bought, no boday said anything. And plz, a sheikh who is not married! Where is this? Here they get married soon and fool around also. Haya didn’t steal or take Mo from his HUGE family, he is already taken. So many wives and women involving his life, kids here and there and duties. I can imagine how they feel: nothing, totally nothing coz they are used to it, nothing new except that the wife this time is much better than them and deserves much better than this so-called-family.

You are the one who should open your mind and start thinking differently, no backwardness, they have been married for months and still furious about it, cant accept it when someone said she represented the UAE .Don’t make sure of anything about me but Ill admit how sad it is that ppl are ruining the image of our country and can't accept other cultures,this is what am welling to admit to.

[Jorja Fox]

Hopefully,she'll improve the breed of al Maktoums!

[777]

i believe the people do not accept her, because it is WELL KNOWN that she was the girlfriend of the late Basil al-assad, and she used to go 'stay' at their home in syria (ie they were lovers)...basil's father did not allow his son to marry her because they were sexual, and when basil was involved in 'an accident' that ended his lige, she threw herself on the grave when they buried him. sad but true. Secondly she has been married before to her trainer. Thirdly, she has lived with another man in France. This may seem normal to all you westerners who are reading this, but to arabs it is a very unacceptable past that she has. The only thing that stops the people from calling her cheap names is the fact she is king hussains daughter. She married for money...i cant really see why any other woman in her RIGHT MIND would marry mo, unless it is for ower, and money. He is not exactly young, single or good looking. He is ruthless, old and has more wives and lovers than ive had hot dinners!!! King hussain must be turning in his grave at his daughters choice of husband. But if he looks on the bright side, he will appreciate that Jordan is so much richer now. And at the end of the day, thats what it was all about, really.

[kinneret5764]

Originally Posted by 777

i believe the people do not accept her, because it is WELL KNOWN that she was the girlfriend of the late Basil al-assad, and she used to go 'stay' at their home in syria (ie they were lovers)...basil's father did not allow his son to marry her because they were sexual, and when basil was involved in 'an accident' that ended his lige, she threw herself on the grave when they buried him. sad but true. Secondly she has been married before to her trainer. Thirdly, she has lived with another man in France. This may seem normal to all you westerners who are reading this, but to arabs it is a very unacceptable past that she has. The only thing that stops the people from calling her cheap names is the fact she is king hussains daughter. She married for money...i cant really see why any other woman in her RIGHT MIND would marry mo, unless it is for ower, and money. He is not exactly young, single or good looking. He is ruthless, old and has more wives and lovers than ive had hot dinners!!! King hussain must be turning in his grave at his daughters choice of husband. But if he looks on the bright side, he will appreciate that Jordan is so much richer now. And at the end of the day, thats what it was all about, really.

Gee, I didn't know she got around that much. Did S. Mo acquire "used merchandise"?

[igniya]

I am sorry 777 but these are all rumours and downright lies.