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Old 02-13-2005, 11:33 PM
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Came across this at Petra:

King Arrives in Dubai

Dubai/ Feb.12/(Petra)--His Majesty King Abdullah II
arrived in Dubai Saturday on the outset of a three-day visit to the
United Arab Emirates.
On Sunday, King Abdullah will visit IDEX 2005 in Abu
Dhabi. IDEX is the biggest defense industries exhibition organized
by the UAE with the participation of about 1000 world companies
specialized in military industries from 45 Arab and foreign
countries.
King Abdullah was welcomed upon arrival by Dubai Heir
Apparent and Defense Minister Sheikh Mohammad bin Rashed Al Maktum
and Princess Haya bint Al Hussein.
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Old 02-13-2005, 11:40 PM
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Princess Haya in Germany with King Hussein and Queen Noor, 1998
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Old 02-13-2005, 11:42 PM
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Old 02-13-2005, 11:57 PM
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The bottom line is the two of them chose to marry one another. I am sure Sheik Mohammed's wife is highly respected and deservedly so. What happens next will be a matter between the family and its members. I was just looking at another forum a member of TRF asked me to look at where someone had posted everyone in Jordan knew everyone else in Jordan disliked QN and it was a disturbing thing to read as it ended up spreading some truly nasty rumors about her. Having known some Jordanians or those who have visited Jordan and spoken at length to Jordanians, that is not the case (the idea QN is universally disliked in Jordan in general; these rumors in particular). Whatever the feelings of the people of UAE, perhaps Haya will do some good works of her own on their behalf and will become accepted over time. I just try to shy away from speaking for all and speak merely for myself. Your opinion is sufficient and clear. Please feel free to keep all posted on the good works of Sheik Mohammed's first wife in the appropriate context and forum and also when and if you feel Haya has done something worthy of meriting respect within the UAE--whom I have heard are a warm-hearted and welcoming people, thus still, by and large, likely to give Haya this opportunity.

By the way, the photos posted are lovely.

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Clarification to El Jood:

- Do not think that I support Haya's decision to marry Mo not only because he is a "married" man but also because they are not compatible on many levels...
By the way, if she married a married man, he is that married man who did not respect his wife, his children and his own people including you. So he does not care of what you Emirati think. And this is a fact and you Can NOT DENY IT.

- And when i said you are not tolerant, this should not be interpreted as if i support Haya's marriage from a so called married man..But your intolerance is the great hatress and grudge you are holding in your system.

--< Although i do not know the motives of their decision to get married, i found Mo and Haya ridiculous in this marriage (imo)

Reminder: Haya and Mo are already married

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Princess Haya in Germany with King Hussein and Queen Noor, 1998
Thanks for posting these pics, Humera. Nice to see the royal couple and Haya so close on this official trip.

Also I couldn't help but notice the shortish skirts on both Haya and Noor. It's interesting that from about 1999 onwards most royal ladies started to wear skirts/dresses at just below the knee. I've noticed this on Queen Rania and Princess Marie Chantal of Greece. In the 90's the length was definitely shorter than now.
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Clarification to El Jood:

- Do not think that I support Haya's decision to marry Mo not only because he is a "married" man but also because they are not compatible on many levels...
By the way, if she married a married man, he is that married man who did not respect his wife, his children and his own people including you. So he does not care of what you Emirati think. And this is a fact and you Can NOT DENY IT.

- And when i said you are not tolerant, this should not be interpreted as if i support Haya's marriage from a so called married man..But your intolerance is the great hatress and grudge you are holding in your system.

--< Although i do not know the motives of their decision to get married, i found Mo and Haya ridiculous in this marriage (imo)

Reminder: Haya and Mo are already married
Just to clarify something for myself:

Despite the fact that when Haya wed Sheikh Mohammed he was already a "married" man, he and she were still within their right to do so ie. to get married to each other. Islam supports the idea of a man marrying up to 4 wives. Why then is it that both are being criticized for this and above all this harsh indictment that Haya was breaking up Mohammed's family? That makes no sense to me. Islam supports multiple marriages for men so why is their a problem?
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Just to clarify something for myself:

Despite the fact that when Haya wed Sheikh Mohammed he was already a "married" man, he and she were still within their right to do so ie. to get married to each other. Islam supports the idea of a man marrying up to 4 wives. Why then is it that both are being criticized for this and above all this harsh indictment that Haya was breaking up Mohammed's family? That makes no sense to me. Islam supports multiple marriages for men so why is their a problem?
With all respect to your opinion, I know that Islam gives men right to marry up to 4 BUT within Certain circumstances. I do not know whether Mo's reason were within those circumstances. Although we do not know the exact reasons of them being married, I still see their marriage of mutual interests. He wants to have a young modern wife that he can present to Western media and she, on the other hand, has access to his money (IMO).

Coming from a very conservative society, Mo as a 'public figure' should have been more careful in getting re-married from a princess who is also a public figure. I wonder whether there would have been such a fuss about his 2nd marriage had he married a local. In all cases, they are now married...Who cares anyway?
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Its not that Haya is not being accepted in the UAE society or by the people is because, UAE people are so used to the Sheikhs marrying UAE nationals and not a commoner with a reputation such as hers.

She does not act in public as a sheikhs wife or as a princess. Ex, at ascot horse race in london, she throws her slef over him, she dresses in ugly tight pencil skirts..At the opening ceremony of the endurance race, she wore a dress as old as almost 5 years that was also tight, would say in other words almost ript off..As for ascot, she couldve worn a nice pant suit or a nice loose flow skirt. Its very disrespectful in UAE culture to wear such things in front of men. Not to forget, it might be normal to some poeple, but the UAE people are still not opened to such things, and never would you see a sheikhs wife or a normal man's wife out like that around his men.

I would also think when someone married into a different culture, she would respect it abit, but she dosnt in the way she dresses and acts. I do understand she is a jordanian princess and it would be hard to change totally, but a bit wont harm.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:22 AM
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[quote=Balqis]You know every SINGLE person in the Emirates? WOW! And you know their exact thoughts regarding Haya too, double WOW!QUOTE]


You beat me to it, Balqis. I was just about to say the same thing.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:29 AM
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Yes I mean It any single person and there are many members in this forum who are from the UAE and have the same opinion
and I know my people at the end :)



a Shame why?? I didn't say or do something that would shame my country or i would be ashamed of AtLeast I didn't try to destroy a family and Intrude
Thank god that there aren't many like Haya in this world :)


Well a Lovely woman that is your opinion
and i never said she is not....
Deserves to be accpeted hhmmmm Maybe if she didnt marry a married man
she would of been accpeted... Ppl love sh. Hind sheikh Mohammed's wife and his family and would hate to see them destroyed thats the 1st reason for us no accepting her .... NO one is mentioning any rumors here....
I am not saying that is it not his mistake too....
but she is the one to blame in this story



I would love her to read what i or others write ....



My country would never be in bad light everyone knows UAE and UAE ppl and their Kindness and hospitality to visitors and ppl who live here know that very well....
and our country showed HAYA all the hospitality and kindness since she 1st came here and that what made her live here for 3 years before getting married to SH. Mohammed...
and when i speak on behalf of my country ppl i know what i am saying VERY WELL and know the way our ppl think
(( i am sure new memebers will pop up now and say they are from UAE and accept her LoL))
u can read old members from UAE and non UAE who live in and out UAE opinion in this issue


Yada Yada, already. I know of at least 2 UAE members who would disagree with you, but I won't call names of course.
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[quote=El Jood]Because Its a Fact thats why i am writing here....
and I did Blame Sh. Mohammed Not only Haya


Hired by who?? if this is what you think it might be the other way round
this is a new info ... so ppl here are hired LOOOOOOOOOL ok now i understand things that i was surprised of some ppl opions so they are hired LoL
This is my opion
and convince who....
There is no need to convince anyone...it is known
You can carry a survey if you don't beleive me
90% will give you the same opion 10% just dont care
as for accepting u will get 0 % lool





People are being paid? You really believe that don't you. There's no way you can speak for a whole country. I'm sure Shk Mo isn't the only man in the UAE with more than one wife.
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Princess Haya in Germany with King Hussein and Queen Noor, 1998

Thanks for posting these pictures, Humera. I have never before seen these of PH.
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Its not that Haya is not being accepted in the UAE society or by the people is because, UAE people are so used to the Sheikhs marrying UAE nationals and not a commoner with a reputation such as hers.

She does not act in public as a sheikhs wife or as a princess. Ex, at ascot horse race in london, she throws her slef over him, she dresses in ugly tight pencil skirts..At the opening ceremony of the endurance race, she wore a dress as old as almost 5 years that was also tight, would say in other words almost ript off..As for ascot, she couldve worn a nice pant suit or a nice loose flow skirt. Its very disrespectful in UAE culture to wear such things in front of men. Not to forget, it might be normal to some poeple, but the UAE people are still not opened to such things, and never would you see a sheikhs wife or a normal man's wife out like that around his men.

I would also think when someone married into a different culture, she would respect it abit, but she dosnt in the way she dresses and acts. I do understand she is a jordanian princess and it would be hard to change totally, but a bit wont harm.

I'm curious, how does a Shk wife suppose to "act"? What does she suppose to wear? Also, this so-called reputation she suppose to have must be questioned, especially since there isn't any proof to substantiate any of the rumors we have read on here and elsewhere.
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- Do not think that I support Haya's decision to marry Mo not only because he is a "married" man but also because they are not compatible on many levels...
You Do Not Think????
It shows that you support this wedding
you are defending her in all means....
I didn't defend sh. Mohammed I do say he is mistaken
hhhmmmm Not Compatible....
This is something we agree on ... In what levels this is something i prefer not to discuss cuz it will offend many ppl

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By the way, if she married a married man, he is that married man who did not respect his wife, his children and his own people including you. So he does not care of what you Emirati think. And this is a fact and you Can NOT DENY IT.
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a man preposes and the lady either accepts or refuses
she is the one who accepetd this....
I am wondering how could she be a young princess and marry someone who is the age of her Dad just for $$$$
no other reason
he wasn't the one who went there to jordan and preposed she is the one who came to UAE in year 2001-2002 to work and started the relation he is not the one who went to her so she is the one who took the step
we blame them both
but she is the one to blame more
We cant deny that men here marry women secretlt but no one knows and its a wedding that doesnt last long and mainly they marry ppl who are from a class that accept this situation cant imagen how could she accpt being in this situation and they are never names by their husbands name just Like Haya she is never mentioned that she is his wife

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Reminder: Haya and Mo are already married
hhmmmm guess how long it would last
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Old 02-14-2005, 09:33 AM
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Haya is a princess in Her country
and was concidered a princess who lives in UAE when she wasn't married to sh. Mohammed
Now she is just like any Expatriate who came to work in UAE and looked for a guy with $$$$$ and got married to him, ignoring that she is a princess
BTW

Her Uncle didn't attend the wedding and was against it as many other people in jordan thought it was a cheap act from HAYA
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Old 02-14-2005, 10:07 AM
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