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04-04-2005, 08:16 PM
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Princess Haya: News and Picture Thread, Part 2
Continuation of the first thread on Princess Haya. Please post news, pictures and opinions on the daughter of the late King Hussein of Jordan and his late wife Queen Alia.
Also, please review The Royal Forum's Posting Rules and Guidelines before making your posts, found here: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=170480#post170480. Violations of the posting rules and guidelines may result in suspension or being banned. Old thread can be found here: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...999#post194999 Post away and enjoy!
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04-04-2005, 10:17 PM
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New pictures from WAM
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04-04-2005, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by houri I just don't understand when people in west try to dismiss our opinion about important people from our area and sharing with us the same culture  .I understand the differences between our cultures and I respect that and I hope you all do the same :) . Very true, not only does everyone have the right to express their opinions without being totally dismissed, but since you are in fact expressing opinions of the people in your own area, your opinions are quite valuable indeed since you know better. I would implore you, El Jood, and Suria to please NOT stop posting just because you've been hurt by some, because there are others who are very much interested in your opinions. And isn't one of the points of expressing your opinions to get people thinking, to get a reaction no matter it be positive or negative? Please do not be disheartened, your opinions are well respected, those members who dismissed your opinions feel just as strongly about their own opinions that's why they came on a bit too strong, I'm sure they didn't mean to be rude or hurtful, it's just that when you are not face to face sometimes things can come out wrong. I hope you will continue to post and to share, sometimes you have to take other people in your stride, it doesn't make it right, but sometimes you just have to. -Eliza |
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04-05-2005, 12:27 AM
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Thanx Eliza I think in the end we agree on a lot of things :)
I like Haya a lot realy but I don't understand her choices , I feel sorry for her to spend her life with some one have busy life ( another wifes and children ) !! And about mo he should respect his culture more , and try to care about his children feelings . Last edited by houri; 04-05-2005 at 01:22 AM. |
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04-05-2005, 01:00 AM
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Haya looks very pretty and happy. btw..I believe this is the second time we've seen pictures of Haya with disabled/special needs kids. Im assuming she's a patron of causes involving such children in her new homeland? Last edited by Humera; 04-05-2005 at 01:03 AM. |
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04-05-2005, 01:59 AM
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From what I have heard she is more patron to the arts. The other stuff is what Hind and her girls are partron for.
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04-05-2005, 02:33 AM
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I must say that I was really impressed with what I saw of Dubai during the World Cup telecast & have made myself a note that I must visit next time I can afford to go to Europe. :) :) :)
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04-05-2005, 04:38 AM
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Haya visits paediatric centre WAM  Dubai: Princess Haya, wife of General Shaikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Dubai Crown Prince and UAE Minister of Defence, yesterday visited the Rashid Paediatric Centre. The visit was part of a series of trips by the princess to special needs and rehabilitation centres in Dubai. Princess Haya was briefed on the activities of the centre and met children undergoing rehabilitation. |
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04-05-2005, 06:30 AM
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wow , she looks great in those pic's ............. :)
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04-05-2005, 06:44 AM
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i wonder why is she wearing this rosary all the time
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04-05-2005, 02:11 PM
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I totally did not mean to be hurtful or disrespectful. I have to admit that I am a bit ignorant on this issue of polygamy. I thought that that was considered normal in Muslim countries and so I did not understand why some ppl were mad? If Islam allows up to four wives thant why is it an issue for Sheikh Mo to take Haya as another wife?
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04-05-2005, 04:19 PM
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no need to be sorry Reina :)
In Islam if you want to have more than one wife you should be equalitarian to those wifes in every thing , you should treating them all in the same manner . because of that a lot of muslims men have just one wife because it is difficult to be fair to them all . I can understand that mo can offer to open more than one house and have more than one wife but I don't see that he can handle the affectional side and can be fair to all his wifes ( I am not sure if you understnad me ) but I can't believe that there is man in the world have more than one heart :) |
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04-05-2005, 07:12 PM
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I haven't seen haya Look worse
Look at her Hair!!!!!!!!!!!! what has she done... It looks Burnt! Plus look at her dress.... I love Jordanian Clothes they are a peice of art but i don't understand where she gets her clothes from !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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04-05-2005, 07:20 PM
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I wouldnt call it normal. I think in some ME countries it is common but in other Muslim countries its very rare and in others its banned. There are many Muslims, including scholars, who believe that polygamy has no place in today's society. It was prescribed during the early, chaotic days of Islam when the Muslim community was in it infancy and lived in an almost constant state of war and persecution. Polygamy was meant to extend protection at that time to women who had lost husbands, fathers etc and to prevent them from resorting to desperate means like prostitution. But that was 1400 years ago. None of those conditions exist now. But ofcourse that doesnt stop men and even women from living in polygamous relationships today. As for Haya, when she first married Sheikh Muhammad, a lot of us were surprised that she'd enter into such a relationship. But that debate is over. Most of us agreed that she's an intelligent, independent woman who knows her mind. As for certain members who seem to have a deep dislike of her, it has little to do with polygamy. Its just Haya-bashing for no apparent reason. Just like many other royals on this board have their admirers, they have critics. Im sure you know that some members only show up here to belittle certain royals, including Haya. |
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04-05-2005, 07:41 PM
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Haya was able to get married to sheikh Mohammed... in Public....
and be his second official wife thats fine.... Talking about myself as an Emarati we cannot accpet her even if she trys.... Not because of Haya.... No.... because we love sheikha Hind too much and haya will never be one of us.... she will never understand our tradition..she can't mix in with us.... Its ok if it was someone other than sheikh Mohammed.... we have many emaraties married to Many natinalities...here people can't accpet having their Crown Prince married to someone from the outside.... In Kuwait if one of the royal memebers get married to someone who isn't from kuwait they can never Rule... Haya has lived a life in her past that doesn't suite the UAE culture.... we can't accpet it.... being his wife is a FACT now.....but she stays his wife only not more than that other than sheikha Hind..... She is a Memeber of the royal Family... she has 12 Children... she is a very active person in charity work.... she helps many people....without making a FUSS over what she does....she has being doing these visists to prove that she is here and that she is around....but noting for the country's good.... ....nothing more.... Even People from Other gulf countries are so surprised with sh. Mohammed's action because it has been known that he is a person who is attached with the arabic tradtion.... and never allowed his wife out in media and also his Daughters who are sheikha Hind's are never seen in public after they grew up what ever she does she will not reach to what sheikha Hind has done for the country .... Its Doesn't mean Not being in media that you are not active,,,, sheikha Hind attends so many occasions and does so much charity work and works really hard but that only diffrence is that her pictures are not in the media.... she is Not like Haya... who is trying to come out in media for the sake of proving herself without any target |
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04-05-2005, 08:23 PM
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I've had a lot of discussions about the history of polygamy with my Muslim friends and what they said is very similar to what Humera says, but there was another reason, when Islam spread (and it didn't spread through violence, by the way, as is the common misconception) to outside the Arabia, there were many places where there were more women converting to Islam than there were men--Islam was probably the first religion to have a relatively modern view of women's rights, and women were granted a lot more equality in Islam than in other religions, this attracted many women to Islam along with Islam's other policies. Since there were a lot more Muslim women than there were men, there was a problem for them when the time came to marry. So, according to muslim's, polygamy like Humera said was meant to prevent women from resorting to desperate measures like prostitution. Polygamy does not really have a historical basis in the Western society, but history has shown us that that did not stop many western Kings and Presidents from physically using multiple women--there is no evidence of that in Islam. However, today a vast majority of Muslims are in monogamous relationships, those that aren't are required to treat all their wives equally. While, those that are in polygamous relationships are in the minoirty, they are more prominent to us because to us polygamy is shocking...don't mormons practice polygamy too?
I do agree, however, that members who have formed a negative view of haya, have not done so because she's in a polygamous relationship, I believe from the posts I have read that it's because Sheikha Hind is more loved and more popular and it's difficult because of this to accept Haya. There is a very similar situation in UK right now, Camilla may very well have been accepted had people not admired and respected and loved Diana. Because of their love and respect for Diana, people find it difficult to accept Camilla, especially since many feel that if they do accept Camilla they will be disrespecting Diana and her memory. As evidence of this: many Britons are okay with Camilla having the title of Duchess of Cornwall, but not with having the title Princess of Wales, which was Diana's title. Though Haya and Camilla are not by any means comparable, the situation they find themselves in as far as public opinion goes is pretty much analogous. -Eliza |
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04-05-2005, 08:29 PM
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