Princess Haya - news and picture thread part 1

[Ipi Tombe]

i don't have any probs with haya not changing her name-that is the tradition all over the arab world (i think.) and i'm not from the arab world or muslim but i didn't change my name after i got married.

but if you check the latest endurance ride she participated in-she participated under the jordan flag. the uae equistrian federation says that if you LIVE in the uae and want to compete then you must be sponosored by your HOME country (i.e. expat riders must get sponosorship from their home country all though they might train and live in the uae). the uae only sponosors uae riders. (i mean sponsor in the 'acknowledge riders credentials' sense not financially.)

http://www.hiltonherbsalfredstower.e...k/results.html

also not only does Mo not want Haya to wear those pants-NEITHER DO I!!!!!

his ego has nothing to do with this. these are rules and realities of life out of his control. her horse got injured-that is life. she is jordanian-he knew that before he married her.

but in reality-i can't remember any showjumping competition she has participated in in the past few years. so i don't think going to the olympics was high on her priority list anyways.

Originally Posted by Humble

In early days of their marriage, I read that one of the conditions put on Mo when marrying Haya was that she will be always called Haya bint Hussein...Haya is already a BORN princess. she is not in need of UAE passport but in need of Mo' $$$$$.

So knowing she is always called Princess Haya bint Hussein and knowing that she is married to MO, i do not think Mo will want her to ride under Jordan. His Ego is acting..Also, he may not want poeple to see her wearing those showjumping outfit especially the tight pants)....

I am a commoner and I REFUSE such A UAE passport even if the country is gold paved even if they hand it to me (with all my respect to my UAE girl friends)...I just do not swallow the mentality of their men...

[La la]

Originally Posted by Ipi Tombe

also not only does Mo not want Haya to wear those pants-NEITHER DO I!!!!!

*Lol* It's pretty obvious that producing Mo juniors is not on her priority list either.

[Ipi Tombe]

interesting la la, if a woman is not going to work within her profession. and she is not going to have kids. and she does not seem to be the charitable spouse type (i.e. Melinda Gates).

what is the point?????

this woman needs to do something productive with her life or get off the planet (or at least out of the spotlight.)

Originally Posted by La la

*Lol* It's pretty obvious that producing Mo juniors is not on her priority list either.

[La la]

Well, well, maybe she's happy bringing Jordanian kids to McDonald's (she appears to be a frequenter there - wonder what kind of injury the horse is suffering from). Oh, I'm such a meanie these days. :( Anyways, gotta go now, past my bedtime.

Smooches (oppss, forgot we're in public now)
La la

[chiefbjules]

Hi All,

My first post.

The last horse result I saw for PH she was riding (Parlour Mountain) Tabatha (Aus), a mare which belongs to Sh Mo. Previous to that the horse last competed in Ireland with Sh Rashid and was hurt. These riders have a tendency to blow the tendons in the legs of the horses, and maybe Tab's were blown again in the last ride. They also change the names of the horses - Yamama is actually registered as Crystal Flyer, also an Australian horse. When Tab left Australia she was considered to be the best endurance horse in the world by her owner, who is one of the best riders in the world. If one is injured, Sh Mo just picks up another horse. Most female endurance riders wear jodhpurs, that's not just in the show ring. Your legs rub much less in jodhs than they do in jeans.

Regards,
Jules

[princess of love]

i wish her and prince ali happiness.............

[wymanda]

The biggest problem with endurance riding is that most of the participants are rank amatuers. I had one of them keeping his horses with me and, to be blunt, the guy was an idiot - he knew nothing and some of his ideas bordered on neglect and mistreatment.
I can only hope that Pncss Haya can educate Sheikh Mo and his family into the correct treatment of their horses. The racehorses are well treated and capable staff and trainers are employed to oversee this. Sheikh Mo is very hands on with the racehorses and has earned the respect of people like Queen Elizabeth who is a very knowlegable horsewoman.

[Ipi Tombe]

w: endurance is a whole subject in itself.

many endurance riders are quite knowledgeable horsepeople but some are complete friggin idiots. the games the Arabs play with their horses in the endurance areana is known worldwide.

phaya-i doubt she can do anything about this but be an silent conspirator to mo's mechanations. to be perfectly honest-she just doesn't have the clout to stand up to him.

in flat racing, mo is renowned for his horsemanship but endurance it is another story.

[wymanda]

Ipi Tombe
They say "Love can move Mountains" so perhaps Haya has more sway with Mo than we think!

[Ipi Tombe]

oh someone stop me.....

i am about to have a seizure from laughing so hard.

Originally Posted by wymanda

Ipi Tombe
They say "Love can move Mountains" so perhaps Haya has more sway with Mo than we think!

[Ipi Tombe]

Jules:

Welcome!!!!

Which Shk Rashid are you referring to? (There is only about 300 of them.)

Their is Shk Rashid bin Hamdan who has started riding endurance and then Shk Rashid bin Mohammed who (I think) has retired from endurance, if not much atheletic pursuits. I know Shk Rashid bin Mo had a foot/leg injury a couple of years ago and he kept playing football and riding endurance althought he complained of the pain. But it seems he has finally given up on both. :( To be perfectly honest, I haven't heard much from him ever since this injury/these injuries.

I do hope he is well.:)

However, Shk Rashid bin Hamdan-don't know much about. He seems to be a newcomer to the sport. I greatly respect his father, however.

Blown tendons. Yeah.....well it is not like they have to preserve their horses for the next ride, do they? If a horse blows out-dispose of it and get a new one. High quality endurance horses are fairly cheap to these guys after all. Anyways they have barns full of them just waiting to be called into service. And are constantly breeding new ones. I used to ride at one of the stables some of the shks kept their horses at. I swear the guys were much more interested in taking their girlfriends to the stables and watching the horses workout in the morning more than anything else. It is just a big hobby. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Jodphurs. Definately more comfy then jeans. But then I swear riding naked is more comfy than riding in jeans.

And another thing, while I'm on the subject.....why do these endurance guys get themselves up in the most ridiculous costumes when riding? Why can't they wear some decent pants and boots? Mo for one looks like he is leading the clown parade most of the time.

Originally Posted by chiefbjules

Hi All,

My first post.

The last horse result I saw for PH she was riding (Parlour Mountain) Tabatha (Aus), a mare which belongs to Sh Mo. Previous to that the horse last competed in Ireland with Sh Rashid and was hurt. These riders have a tendency to blow the tendons in the legs of the horses, and maybe Tab's were blown again in the last ride. They also change the names of the horses - Yamama is actually registered as Crystal Flyer, also an Australian horse. When Tab left Australia she was considered to be the best endurance horse in the world by her owner, who is one of the best riders in the world. If one is injured, Sh Mo just picks up another horse. Most female endurance riders wear jodhpurs, that's not just in the show ring. Your legs rub much less in jodhs than they do in jeans.

Regards,
Jules

Originally Posted by Ipi Tombe

should i start a thread in the Japanese Royal Family forum's????

also, i can't resurrect my id, either. so i choose another dang fine racehorse and HERE I AM....

Or send me another PM ... and I will answer. I was already do to that ... and then the black void.

[Ipi Tombe]

Divine Miss M:

tried to send PM:) -denied by the ltr gods:( . (kinda like ordering a pizza w/o the permission of the Imperial Household Agency. )

so started a thread instead.

Originally Posted by Marlene

Or send me another PM ... and I will answer. I was already do to that ... and then the black void.

Will answer tonight, after I get home, where i have all the stuff ....

[chiefbjules]

Hi Wymanda, Ipe

I learned more in 5 minutes here, and had a good laugh, than I have learned in 2 years of trying to track horses bred by a close friend. Tell us about the games they play. Between my friends there are about 30 horses now over there, particularly the 4 from the same stud as my mare (3 are the dam's half brothers) and a fifth from a different stud by the same sire. Last time dealers started sniffing about my mare I promptly sent her to stud. They definitely lose interest when the mares are in foal.

That would be Rashid Bin Mo with PM Tabatha. He surprised me a little as he is one of the few who can actually ride well and seems to have some idea on how to manage his horse. That's sad he's injured. I know how it feels to be grounded through injury.

Tendons are blown all the time, though, as the horses barely seem to matter and are ridden to win. What we find is half of the ones who come here are really terrible riders looking to get into endurance for the status, not the sport. How on earth they expect to manage a living animal for 120km is beyond me. It's no surprise that horses die under these riders, and there are no prizes for guessing why many Australians just will not sell them their horses. A stable can employ the best trainers and grooms in the world, but as long as they keep throwing riders who can not manage a horse on board that will keep happening.

Jeans - as a child I only ever pulled on jodhpurs at shows and pony club, but now I only seem to wear jodhs when I ride. FEI rides have a dress code. Standard endurance rides here the riders just wear what is comfy. The gold topped boots Sh Mo wears are hunting top boots.

[Ipi Tombe]

If we are talking about Rashid bin Mo-he is v. actice in flat racing also. And he seems to be the only one in the family who breaks out of his father's domination. There was a report in TB Times that Shk Rashid was buying S. American TB's to campaign. Whereas the typical Maktoum way of doing things is to by regally bred American/European TB's. Buying S. American takes guts and brains. But those babies can run......So all props to Shk Rashid.

Speaking about mismanagement of horses. I would think most within the circle of the Maktoums would be fairly decent to their horses. After all they just go and hire someone else to take care of them. Mainly of the Maktoums (Shk Mo-especially) send their horses to Meg Wade. She works for him exclusively. There is also a trainer in the DXB that works for Mo but he doesn't seem to get the same respect and quality of horses. Also, Mo's palace overlooks his private stables and his kids are taught to ride from the minute their momma drops them-so they should know what they are doing.

Personally, I think Mo is the worst rider on the planet. He has the rythem of a fat, awkward child. As they say 'everything you want to know about a person you can see in the saddle'. And God Bless the woman who agrees to go to bed with that mojo every night. He alwasy looks like he is about to fall off. (He just has that 'oh ****' look on his face.)

Also, I have heard that Mo is going to sponsor Tevis next year (there was some kind of Emirates based sponsorship this year also, I think) and give away a Rolls or Bentley to whoever wins. I think this is ludicrious. Why not give away a truck and nice trailer-something people want and can use?

But you're right, people do it for status (good way to hang with Mo-ness) and not necessarily for the sport. People in NAmerica despise the way the Arabs (and the Maktoums) especially participate. Instead of taking care of their horses-they just run and gun like it is a flat race. They are not going to change. This is the mentality of many of the competitors-win at ALL COST. Buying a new horse is much cheaper than losing Mo's favor. And Mo likes to win and likes to hang with winners.

Hmm....is their anything I forgot to mention????

Originally Posted by chiefbjules

Hi Wymanda, Ipe

I learned more in 5 minutes here, and had a good laugh, than I have learned in 2 years of trying to track horses bred by a close friend. Tell us about the games they play. Between my friends there are about 30 horses now over there, particularly the 4 from the same stud as my mare (3 are the dam's half brothers) and a fifth from a different stud by the same sire. Last time dealers started sniffing about my mare I promptly sent her to stud. They definitely lose interest when the mares are in foal.

That would be Rashid Bin Mo with PM Tabatha. He surprised me a little as he is one of the few who can actually ride well and seems to have some idea on how to manage his horse. That's sad he's injured. I know how it feels to be grounded through injury.

Tendons are blown all the time, though, as the horses barely seem to matter and are ridden to win. What we find is half of the ones who come here are really terrible riders looking to get into endurance for the status, not the sport. How on earth they expect to manage a living animal for 120km is beyond me. It's no surprise that horses die under these riders, and there are no prizes for guessing why many Australians just will not sell them their horses. A stable can employ the best trainers and grooms in the world, but as long as they keep throwing riders who can not manage a horse on board that will keep happening.

Jeans - as a child I only ever pulled on jodhpurs at shows and pony club, but now I only seem to wear jodhs when I ride. FEI rides have a dress code. Standard endurance rides here the riders just wear what is comfy. The gold topped boots Sh Mo wears are hunting top boots.

[Ipi Tombe]

I remember the horse 'Tabatha'. Good horse. It was a consistent winner.

Was this one yours?

I don't know whose body gave out first, the horse or SRashid.

[chiefbjules]

I had not heard that about the SAmerican horses. They tend to be very tough, hardy horses. Good on him for doing his own thing. I always thought when Rashid lost a horse season before last after a comp he lost heart with endurance. He's only done a few since.

Last time I watched him Mo ride made me pity the horse. He always looks like he's perched on the saddle rather than settled into it. Never bothered to try and translate that to women - way too scary for me! LOL! Maybe the new missus can give him some riding lessons. Teaching your kids to ride does not necessarily teach them horsemanship, though, even if the kids all ride better than their father.

Yeah, Meg works for him, that's where he got Tab from. Boy was I startled to see Haya on Tab. He has a heap of young Anglos down there by Chip Chase Sadaqua.

[La la]

Originally Posted by chiefbjules

The gold topped boots Sh Mo wears are hunting top boots.

Uh... Mo wears gold topped boots? Ipi, you never mentioned THIS?

[tipper]

Originally Posted by Ipi Tombe

Gobsmacked....



also your comment about Haya being the ideal wife: arab, royal, muslim. there is one catch in that theory-everyone in dxb dislikes her and her husband has lost LOTS of respect within the community because of the marriage AND no one in Jordan likes her husband (besides Abdullah). in theory it looks perfect. but the in reality-it has probably been a nightmare for both of them.

her phyiscal appearance says volumes about what she has been through. the acne, weight gain, heinous clothes. she is a woman in need of help and has no one to go to. she essentially told the JRF to kiss off years ago, so i don't see them bending over backwards to help her through this transition. Especially Rania. and whatever 'real world experience' she has has basically been in a bubble of horsie-land, which from my own experience is as aboufar removed from reality as it gets.

but you can guarantee when Baba BigBucks is around it is all smiles and rosewater for fair haya further compounding the situation.

IPI Tombe, what is the reason why no one in Jordan likes Mo ????????