H.h Sheikha Hind Bint Maktoum Bin Jumaa Al Maktoum

[MoonlightRhapsody]

This is a pretty tricky situation.

On the one hand, religion and traditions are involved and you can't just condemn certain features of it.

On the other, it represents some basic views of husband and wives, friendships, money, and politics. These two independent parts make this issue extremely complicated. For me, without addressing the issue of religion, Haya is infringing on someone else's "property" (don't jump on me about the term, I'm only using it as such). He was already married to someone else, plus this rumor that Haya and his wife were friends; it looks like she's a backstabber as well as co-party to adultery. Again, this was my view without considering the religion. Now with the consideration of religion, I don't know, maybe it's perfectly normal for situations like these to occur, I don't know. All I know is that as a woman, it would be like a bowling ball-sized betrayal to swallow and it would enrage me beyond belief.

[Guess Who]

In religion, a man can have 4 wifes BUT they have to all be treated equally.

[sommone]

Originally Posted by Guess Who

Not to forget that Haya used to be Shk Hinds friend, so what Haya did, i perosnally think it was out of respect to grab her husband and marry him & not a something a princess would ever do, after when Shk hind did so much for Haya.

What did she do for Haya?

[samira]

Actually SM was 55 years old when he married PH last April (I remember the month cuz they got married on my b-day lol), which would make him 55 or 56 years old at the moment.[/quote]


We were talking about Shk Mohammed bin Zayed. :)

[lovy_bear]

Originally Posted by Moonlightrhapsody

This is a pretty tricky situation.

On the one hand, religion and traditions are involved and you can't just condemn certain features of it.

On the other, it represents some basic views of husband and wives, friendships, money, and politics. These two independent parts make this issue extremely complicated. For me, without addressing the issue of religion, Haya is infringing on someone else's "property" (don't jump on me about the term, I'm only using it as such). He was already married to someone else, plus this rumor that Haya and his wife were friends; it looks like she's a backstabber as well as co-party to adultery. Again, this was my view without considering the religion. Now with the consideration of religion, I don't know, maybe it's perfectly normal for situations like these to occur, I don't know. All I know is that as a woman, it would be like a bowling ball-sized betrayal to swallow and it would enrage me beyond belief.

Hi there,

From my personal understanding and interpretation surrounding the issue of polygamy within the Quran (Islamic scripture), the verses allowing men to marry up to four wives only came after a war in which many Muslim men had died (the verses didn't come long before or long after the war but "right" after it). On top of that, the fact that Prophet Muhammad only remained married to one woman (his first wife Khadijah) for 25 years and only took multiple wives after her death and after the war mentioned above, once again proves that the practice of polygamy in relation to Islam is very dependent on circumstance and from my personal view, isn't a general practice. Considering that its scientifically proven that only 25% of women prefer to work (although this percentage is actually slowly on the rise) and 75% of men tend to think in the same way and/or considering that due to the influence of practices within pre-Islamic cultures, present within ancient Arabia towards women when Islam first arose (within many of these cultures, women were either prohibited or discouraged to provide for themselves by working), if individual women didn't want to work (whether through biological or social means) and lived in a geographic location where the number of women outnumbered that of the male gender, the practice of polygamy at times came into effect and sometimes still does today.

But I also believe that the issue of transportation was/is a key concept as well. 1500 years ago it was pretty hard to travel to another city/country in a “fast” paced manner, especially in order to find a mate. So if a woman lived in a community in which there were more women than men, couldn’t/didn’t want to provide for herself and wanted to enter into a monogamous marriage, it may have been pretty hard for her to find a man outside of her region due to the slow paced transportation on a technology basis, of the time. Because in this day and age, there are cars, trains and airplanes, I think that it would be pretty easy to enter into a monogamous relationship and even travel to the other side of the world within 2 days as opposed to 2 years in order to find a potential husband/wife (whether you’re a man or a woman). Although, at the same time there are people who live in areas where there’s an imbalance in population on a gender basis, and because of certain circumstances i.e. money shortage, they’re unable to travel (thus for some multiple wife marriages have to come into effect even in this era).

I believe that within an Islamic context, polygamous marriages “only” came into effect for social, economic and humanitarian reasons, in order for women who couldn't provide for themselves to be financially taken care of by their spouse. Unfortunately some so-called Muslim men tend to marry many women outside of these specific boundaries and in my view, do it for lustful reasons as opposed to charitable ones, which I completely disagree with. Regardless, not all women who do enter into polygamous marriages find the practice detestable, while some Muslim men do lol (whether the practice is carried out for humanitarian reasons or not) and are completely comfortable with it. I believe that if all players within the situation are ok with it, then the practice should be carried out, but if there is a problem for one/both of the women, then there’s always divorce and/or the refusal to marry the man. And off course, the practice of marrying many woman throughout history as well as today, has also been present within numerous other religions/cultures such as: Judaism, Christianity, Confucianism and Hinduism and not just Islam. Ancient Amazonian women and women within certain tribes of ancient India were also known for marrying multiple men. I hope that my info was of help to you regarding the topic of polygamy vs. religion :)

[lovy_bear]

Originally Posted by samira

We were talking about Shk Mohammed bin Zayed. :)

Oh ok ... my bad. Its just that when I read your post, it spoke of a Sheikh Mohammed without the last name, so I assumed that you were speaking of Sheikha Hind's husband. The mention of both Sheikh Mohammeds in the post before your own got me a little confused

[Ipi Tombe]

to all of you that are dieing to know what shka hind looks like-look at shka latifa and shk mak bin mo.

many arabs find shka hind attractive and p haya not so attractive. whereas many westerners find p haya attractive and shka hind not so attractive. let it be. standards of beauty are different the world over.

i have seen them both and haya is pretty for western sensiblities. however i am personally more fond of hind's looks. she has incredible elegance and beauty that resonates from inside out. haya has little to no 'prescence'. if hind walks in a room 3 blocks down the road-then you will feel it.

they are different women. just let them both be.

[El Jood]

Originally Posted by Ipi Tombe

to all of you that are dieing to know what shka hind looks like-look at shka latifa and shk mak bin mo.

many arabs find shka hind attractive and p haya not so attractive. whereas many westerners find p haya attractive and shka hind not so attractive. let it be. standards of beauty are different the world over.

i have seen them both and haya is pretty for western sensiblities. however i am personally more fond of hind's looks. she has incredible elegance and beauty that resonates from inside out. haya has little to no 'prescence'. if hind walks in a room 3 blocks down the road-then you will feel it.

they are different women. just let them both be.

look at shka latifa and shk mak bin mo

Sh. Hind Has 13 kids why did you choose sh. Latifa and sh. Maktoum...
do u know that you chose the 2 that dont look at ALL like her???
Sh Maktoum is a copy of his dad and Sh. Latifa looks like her aunt...
the one who really has her features is Sh. Hamdan...
and in beauty its ture there are standards
and who told you westerners think that haya is more attractive...I know many and the definately think sh. Hind is in no comparison in beauty with haya both outside beauty and inside beauty...
isn't it enough she stole her husband and player a BIG GAME!

[MoonlightRhapsody]

Originally Posted by lovy_bear

Hi there,

From my personal understanding and interpretation surrounding the issue of polygamy within the Quran (Islamic scripture), the verses allowing men to marry up to four wives only came after a war in which many Muslim men had died (the verses didn't come long before or long after the war but "right" after it). On top of that, the fact that Prophet Muhammad only remained married to one woman (his first wife Khadijah) for 25 years and only took multiple wives after her death and after the war mentioned above, once again proves that the practice of polygamy in relation to Islam is very dependent on circumstance and from my personal view, isn't a general practice. Considering that its scientifically proven that only 25% of women prefer to work (although this percentage is actually slowly on the rise) and 75% of men tend to think in the same way and/or considering that due to the influence of practices within pre-Islamic cultures, present within ancient Arabia towards women when Islam first arose (within many of these cultures, women were either prohibited or discouraged to provide for themselves by working), if individual women didn't want to work (whether through biological or social means) and lived in a geographic location where the number of women outnumbered that of the male gender, the practice of polygamy at times came into effect and sometimes still does today.

But I also believe that the issue of transportation was/is a key concept as well. 1500 years ago it was pretty hard to travel to another city/country in a “fast” paced manner, especially in order to find a mate. So if a woman lived in a community in which there were more women than men, couldn’t/didn’t want to provide for herself and wanted to enter into a monogamous marriage, it may have been pretty hard for her to find a man outside of her region due to the slow paced transportation on a technology basis, of the time. Because in this day and age, there are cars, trains and airplanes, I think that it would be pretty easy to enter into a monogamous relationship and even travel to the other side of the world within 2 days as opposed to 2 years in order to find a potential husband/wife (whether you’re a man or a woman). Although, at the same time there are people who live in areas where there’s an imbalance in population on a gender basis, and because of certain circumstances i.e. money shortage, they’re unable to travel (thus for some multiple wife marriages have to come into effect even in this era).

I believe that within an Islamic context, polygamous marriages “only” came into effect for social, economic and humanitarian reasons, in order for women who couldn't provide for themselves to be financially taken care of by their spouse. Unfortunately some so-called Muslim men tend to marry many women outside of these specific boundaries and in my view, do it for lustful reasons as opposed to charitable ones, which I completely disagree with. Regardless, not all women who do enter into polygamous marriages find the practice detestable, while some Muslim men do lol (whether the practice is carried out for humanitarian reasons or not) and are completely comfortable with it. I believe that if all players within the situation are ok with it, then the practice should be carried out, but if there is a problem for one/both of the women, then there’s always divorce and/or the refusal to marry the man. And off course, the practice of marrying many woman throughout history as well as today, has also been present within numerous other religions/cultures such as: Judaism, Christianity, Confucianism and Hinduism and not just Islam. Ancient Amazonian women and women within certain tribes of ancient India were also known for marrying multiple men. I hope that my info was of help to you regarding the topic of polygamy vs. religion :)

Thanks very much for that. I'm Catholic so I'm really not knowledgable about Islam or the other religions, for that matter. Your explaination was very appreciated! Thanks!

[sommone]

I think La La best summed it up when she said "different strokes for different folks." I will never really know what Shka Hind looks like, so I can't comment. I do know what Haya looks like, and I think she is beautiful.

[Guess Who]

I think Haya has no beauty or any attractivness in her. She does not act like a princess or acts like sheikh Mohammeds wife. Sheikha Hind is a very stunning lady, especially for her age, I dont know why its mentioned she looks like shk latifa when she dosnt.She does take alot from Shk hamdan and abit from the younger daughters.

[MoonlightRhapsody]

Does anyone posses a definitive picture of Sheika Hind? Beauty comparison is a moot point if we don't even know for sure what the other one looks like.

[sommone]

Originally Posted by Moonlightrhapsody

Does anyone posses a definitive picture of Sheika Hind? Beauty comparison is a moot point if we don't even know for sure what the other one looks like.

We won't see a picture of Shka Hind because it's taboo...

[Bubbette]

There are pictures of her out there. Do a search.

[samira]

Originally Posted by El Jood

Samira... I wish one day you get to meet sheikha hind to see her STUNNING beuaty.... I swear when people see her they think she is a sister to her kinds
Plus she DEFINATLY there is no comparison between her and Haya ....
although Haya is younger they look the same age beleive it or not and u will be so surprised if you see her.... with her 13 Kids ( mashallah )
she looks like she has had 2 maximum and she is not like any of the women in this region....she has been maintaing herself and there is no change except every year passes she looks more and more beutiful..
I forgot to tell u guys sheikha hind is 14 Years younger than sheikh MOhammed :)

Yes...like a Princess in a fairyland.She becomes younger and more beautiful with each year passed and every child she delivered.

[Blueice]

The only image that appears as a result of google image search under 'H.H. Sheikha Hind Bint Maktoum Bin Juma Al Maktoum' is this one - a photo titled 'Talents Team' from Dubai Photo Media site. It can not be enlarged - the images are very vague, but there is a possibility that one of the ladies actually is Sheikha Hind. If someone who has better insight could help out - it would be appreciated.

[La la]

Originally Posted by Blueice

The only image that appears as a result of google image search under 'H.H. Sheikha Hind Bint Maktoum Bin Juma Al Maktoum' is this one - a photo titled 'Talents Team' from Dubai Photo Media site. It can not be enlarged - the images are very vague, but there is a possibility that one of the ladies actually is Sheikha Hind. If someone who has better insight could help out - it would be appreciated.

I'm sorry to disappoint you Blueice. I remember when this picture was published. Her daughter Sheikha Mariam attended this event on behalf of her mother and she is the one in the picture sans abaya.

[Blueice]

Originally Posted by La la

I'm sorry to disappoint you Blueice. I remember when this picture was published. Her daughter Sheikha Mariam attended this evening on behalf of her mother and she is the one in the picture sans abaya.

Thank you, La La, I wasn't keeping my hopes too high - yet, after all this speculating on a lady that just about nobody seems to know anything substantially about (let alone actually seeing her in person), I was hoping that at least one photo will appear and thus contribute to this thread's argumentative base which seems to be lacking. Thanks again. Regards! :)