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Old 09-18-2018, 04:50 PM
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Spain,the Netherlands and UK do it very well,I didn't know that the Belgians even had such an a event.

Norway,Sweden and Denmark look like they're going to a Church Service
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Spain,the Netherlands and UK do it very well,I didn't know that the Belgians even had such an a event.

Norway,Sweden and Denmark look like they're going to a Church Service

Norway is also quiet formell with the King and Crownj Prince in Uniform and the Collar of the Order of St. Olav. But in Spain how often is there one? Don't think every year. And as far as i remember not much formell. Don't think is a Opening of the Parliamernt in Belgium and Luxemburg.
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:29 PM
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I think the Grandmasters or Court Marshalls maybe look to the planning, the proceedings, the organization, the uniform depôts, the working of the Royal Mews, whatever.
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Spain,the Netherlands and UK do it very well,I didn't know that the Belgians even had such an a event.

Norway,Sweden and Denmark look like they're going to a Church Service
The Swedes are going to church. The Opening of Parliament starts out with a church service.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:19 PM
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Norway is also quiet formell with the King and Crownj Prince in Uniform and the Collar of the Order of St. Olav. But in Spain how often is there one? Don't think every year. And as far as i remember not much formell. Don't think is a Opening of the Parliamernt in Belgium and Luxemburg.
Sorry didn't mean to include Norway in my original post .

The State Opening of the Spanish Cortes opens takes place after every General election I believe (every 4 years or there abouts).

The King and Royal Family arrive with a mounted escorted ,no carriages sadly used.

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Spain,the Netherlands and UK do it very well,I didn't know that the Belgians even had such an a event.

Norway,Sweden and Denmark look like they're going to a Church Service

Well, at least King Harald reads the speech from what I would call a real pompous royal throne out of the fairy books.

The swedish opening is, apart from the carriage ride (only a handful of spectators watching...the royal party driving through Stockholm almost virtually unnoticed...), quite a bore, while at the danish one you could ask yourself, why the royal family attends at all, having no function, except looking!...
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The carriage ride and the speech from the throne can be followed live on NPO1. The broadcast will start at 12:25 GMT+1:
https://www.npostart.nl/live/npo-1

The liveblog of the NPO has a clip about the golden carriage. The German goldsmith explains that gold is cleaned with a mix of water and ... beer. A lady in charge of the restauration of the textile says that it is inevitable that the carriage will be retired to a museum on the long run, as textile is a fleeting material that gets damaged every time the carriage is used.
https://nos.nl/liveblog/2250924-prin...-kapsalon.html

That would be a great shame, and I don´t quite understand why as the english golden coach is more than twice as old...?!
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It didn't stop the Prince,no,indeed,but he's the Monarch now ,..happened little over 3 years ago...and as such represents the whole Nation,and a Monarch doesn't enter Parliament in Military adoo,never.
You mean, never in the Netherlands?! In Norway the monarch does enter parliament in uniform and in Spain, too. In Britain the royal princes always enter parliament in uniform, and I am convinced when Charles would be King one day he will still be opening parliament in uniform like all his male ancestors did for the last 117 years!
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That would be a great shame, and I don´t quite understand why as the english golden coach is more than twice as old...?!
It has to do with the "colonial" painting on one of the side panels, in which people from the East and the West Netherlands Indies bring homage to a female allegoric figure, embodying the Motherland. According a small but vocal anti-racism group this is a depiction of slavery and therefore they protest against the use of this Golden State Coach. I do not rule out that the carriage will become a museal piece because of this.

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The complete live programme from the dutch television:

https://www.npostart.nl/nos-prinsjes...8/POW_03923721
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It has to do with the "colonial" painting on one of the side panels, in which people from the East and the West Netherlands Indies bring homage to a female allegoric figure, embodying the Motherland. According a small but vocal anti-racism group this is a depiction of slavery and therefore they protest against the use of this Golden State Coach. I do not rule out that the carriage will become a museal piece because of this.

Picture: https://historiek.net/wp-content/upl...0-1024x521.jpg

No. This was what it was about:

"A lady in charge of the restauration of the textile says that it is inevitable that the carriage will be retired to a museum on the long run, as textile is a fleeting material that gets damaged every time the carriage is used."
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That was commented on television indeed and seemed to be the personal opinion of the restorator. But she added "on the long run". The Dutch carriage is used much more frequently than the British one. The latter has been used 3 (?) times in the last 66 years perhaps?

The other issue is indeed the side panels, which has been a matter of debate for some years now. Indeed of a small but vocal group. The restoration silenced the debate for now, but the discussion will likely flare up once the restoration has finished.
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Maybe I missed it but what coach did Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien travel in?

Thankfully the Dutch still use pomp and majesty for these ceremonies if it was Belgium they'd all arrive in a people carrier!
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Prinsjesdag 2013-2018

I'd completely forgotten about Prinsjesdag this year as it's been quite a hectic few days for me lately, so it was nice to log on and see all the photos!
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I'd completely forgotten about Prinsjesdag this year as it's been quite a hectic few days for me lately, so it was nice to log on and see all the photos! I wonder why no carriages were used this year - I missed seeing the wonderful grand carriages as we have done in previous years.
There were four gala carriages, several mounted detachements of the cavalry, of the Royal Marechaussee, of the National Police, there were music bands and detachements on foot from various regiments and from the Marine Corps, the Navy and the Air Force. With other words: a completely normal Prinsjesdag.

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Maybe I missed it but what coach did Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien travel in?

Thankfully the Dutch still use pomp and majesty for these ceremonies if it was Belgium they'd all arrive in a people carrier!

Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien travelled in a Gala Berline, which was ordered by The Prince of Orange in 1836. The manufacturer was the firm Pearce & Co in London. This is one of the several Gala Berlines in the Royal Mews. Their specific one was changed into an all-glass around berline for the wedding of Princess Margriet and Pieter van Vollenhoven (1967). Since then it is named: Gala Glass Berline.

One of the traditional Gala Berlines: picture

The Gala Glass Berline: picture

There are also several Coupé type of Berlines. This picture shows that a Gala Coupé is just a two-seater version of the Gala Berline. It has glass in front: picture

Alexandra gravin Van Zuylen van Nijevelt - den Beer Poortugael (the Grandmastress of the King) in her carriage, which was one of the Gala Coupé type of Berlines: picture

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That would be a great shame, and I don´t quite understand why as the english golden coach is more than twice as old...?!
The golden coach is used every year whereas the British golden coach has only seen the light of day four times in 118 years as it is only used for coronations.
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Unfortunately a lot of nasty remarks from English people on the Daily Mail article.
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