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Yesterday a presenter of SBS Shownews said Edwin moved from his motherts house to a room in Amsterdam ('3 hoog achter') -3 stories high at the backside of a house. With a vicious smile she added that that was quite a change from his castle in France.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:36 PM
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Today the site zijonline (gossip-site, so not that reliable) claims to have tapes of the conversations of Edwin de Roy, Princess Margarita with HP/de Tijd reporter Thieu Vaessen. According to the site the Princess tells that she was sexually abused by her brother Carlos when she was 12 years old.

Later today the site also reports that this information was all found in some documentation that Edwin de Roy gave to businessman Roctus, as a guarentee for a loan. They further reported that Margarita had to go to a psychiatrist due to this alleged sexual abuse.

RTL boulevard reported yesterday that this site also has the recordings of the conversations of Margarita and her aunt Beatrix. According to Peter van der Vorst the site will put them online today, but nothing is there yet.

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Added to that it was reported on SBS shownews yesterdayu that Edwin de Roy was 'stalked' in a restaurant by a woman. The lady apparently used some inproper language towards him.
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:22 PM
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Today the site zijonline (gossip-site, so not that reliable) claims to have tapes of the conversations of Edwin de Roy, Princess Margarita with HP/de Tijd reporter Thieu Vaessen. According to the site the Princess tells that she was sexually abused by her brother Carlos when she was 12 years old.
I didn't think the whole 'Margarita and Edwin' saga could get anymore shocking, but I'm obviously proven wrong here. This is a very serious allegation re. Carlos. Have to say I do not believe a word of it because both Edwin and Margarita have been proven a bit, well, delusional in the past (what with being sure a nail in the wall was actually a microphone collecting their every move, which was proven false).

If I were Margarita I'd come with a public statement denying these allegations towards her brother. These kinds of rumors could easily otherwise ruin his reputation, and, well, his life.
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Old 03-16-2007, 02:52 PM
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Edwin starts a lawsuit against his former spouse

The Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf reports in an article about a lawsuit started by Edwin de Roy van Zuydewijn.

Here a translated summary for you:

Edwin de Roy van Zuydewijn wants to start a lawsuit against his former spouse Her Royal Highness Princess Margarita de Bourbon de Parme, Countess de Colorno (niece and godchild to Queen Beatrix).

De Roy van Zuydewijn wants his movables back. These are stored for more than 18 months now because Princess Margarita has ordered to get these seized. Edwin de Roy van Zuydewijn in today's broadcast of the current affairs program 'One Today': "We have tried to arrange all this, the movables and everything. But there never came a reaction from Margarita's lawyers. It was agreed that all would be settled before March 14, well: that term has lapsed."

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Old 03-16-2007, 02:55 PM
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I didn't think the whole 'Margarita and Edwin' saga could get anymore shocking, but I'm obviously proven wrong here. This is a very serious allegation re. Carlos.
No any media has picked it up.
Zij Online 's credibility and level really is below zero. It is just one of those trash sites, one of the ongoing cancers of the internet medium.
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Edwin gave a interview to the newspaper Metro. It was in the newspaper of today.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:34 AM
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I read that short interview. He says he will publish his book about his experiences with the RF and that it will be presented at the Frankfurter Buchmesse. It is published by an american publisher and it will target the foreign market. He also says that the commercial that he did on television wasn t to chique but that he needed the money and he says that the acces that he got to his furniture gave him new hopes.
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I just read on the Benelux royals MB that he will be on political interview programme Buitenhof, which is aired after the 1205 PM on a sunday (Nederland 1 or 2).
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:37 AM
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I just read on the Benelux royals MB that he will be on political interview programme Buitenhof, which is aired after the 1205 PM on a sunday (Nederland 1 or 2).
I thought that Buitenhof (The Outer Court) was a renowned opinion-making magazine. I'm amazed that such a program lends itself for Edwin...

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Old 03-30-2007, 10:27 AM
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I was very much surprised by that to. Last week they had mr Solana and now Edwin de Roy... a bit of a devaluation indeed. I wonder if he will be alone or on a table with other guests. Socialistic Parties Harry van Bommel maybe?
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hope for what? surely not that they will get back together again. I will try to watch Buitenhof. I read an interview with him in a womans magazine and he talked about crude banalities regarding Irene, Beatrix and WA, he can not go that way on that programme. He also can not continue to act the sad victim, that is too pathetic. Will be interesting.

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I read that short interview. He says he will publish his book about his experiences with the RF and that it will be presented at the Frankfurter Buchmesse. It is published by an american publisher and it will target the foreign market. He also says that the commercial that he did on television wasn t to chique but that he needed the money and he says that the acces that he got to his furniture gave him new hopes.
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You know, I have a question. Why is Margarita a princess to begin with, as her father is simply a duke, and I thought that children took their rank from fathers in most cases. Also, why would she be a royal highness instead of a highness or some such? The article in the telegraaf only refers to her as a princess, so I am rather confused.
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Apparently it was all a april fools joke by Marianne on the Benelux Royals MB, so no Edwin de Roy on buitenhof but Femke Halsema instead :).

Her father is a Duke but not an english/noble style duke. The house of Bourbon Parma were the souvereign dukes of Parma and HRH. They descend from a younger son of a King of Spain. As such they belong to the +/- 50 royal families of Europe as was decided by the congress of Vienna.

Here a link to the geneology of the family. Their pedigree is more impressive then the one of the House of Orange IMHO, as direct descendents of Louis XIV, among others.
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The father is a Prince

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You know, I have a question. Why is Margarita a princess to begin with, as her father is simply a duke, and I thought that children took their rank from fathers in most cases. Also, why would she be a royal highness instead of a highness or some such? The article in the telegraaf only refers to her as a princess, so I am rather confused.
Like Prince Charles, Prince Andrew, Prince Philip he is addressed with his dukedom.

On April 8th 1930 he was born as His Royal Highness Charles Hugues Xavier Marie Sixte Louis Robert Jean Georges Benoît Michel, Prince de Bourbon de Parme.

Since May 7th 1977 (death of his father) he is the chef of the House de Bourbon de Parme and since such styled as His Royal Highness Charles Hugues Xavier Marie Sixte Louis Robert Jean Georges Benoît Michel, Duke of Parma, Duke of Piacenza, Prince de Bourbon.

His aunt Zita de Bourbon de Parme was the last Empress of Austria.

His uncle Félix de Bourbon de Parme was the grandfather of the present Grand Duke of Luxembourg.

Etc.
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I was in front of the tv too sunday

I thought she is a princess because Juliana wanted the title for all her grandchildren, hence the children of van vollenhoven etc.

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Apparently it was all a april fools joke by Marianne on the Benelux Royals MB, so no Edwin de Roy on buitenhof but Femke Halsema instead :).

Her father is a Duke but not an english/noble style duke. The house of Bourbon Parma were the souvereign dukes of Parma and HRH. They descend from a younger son of a King of Spain. As such they belong to the +/- 50 royal families of Europe as was decided by the congress of Vienna.

Here a link to the geneology of the family. Their pedigree is more impressive then the one of the House of Orange IMHO, as direct descendents of Louis XIV, among others.
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I was in front of the tv too sunday

I thought she is a princess because Juliana wanted the title for all her grandchildren, hence the children of van vollenhoven etc.
No, they do not belong to the Royal House of the Netherlands or the House of Orange-Nassau and have no title 'Prince(ss) of the Netherlands' or 'Prince(ss) of Orange-Nassau'.

They belong to the royal family De Bourbon de Parme.

When Edwin said, there are 'real royals' and 'fake royals', there was a certain truth in that: if we follow the male lineage, then the House of Orange-Nassau died with Prince Willem III in 1702. The rights of the Orange-Nassaus were inherited by the collateral branch, the House of Nassau-Dietz. This House on its turn became extinct with the death of Queen Wilhelmina in 1962.

Strictly spoken we do have a Queen from the House of Lippe.
And in the nearby future we will witness the head of an untitled noble family (Von Amsberg) to assume the kingship.
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No, they do not belong to the Royal House of the Netherlands or the House of Orange-Nassau and have no title 'Prince(ss) of the Netherlands' or 'Prince(ss) of Orange-Nassau'.

They belong to the royal family De Bourbon de Parme.

When Edwin said, there are real royals and 'fake' royals, there was a certain truth in that: if we follow the male lineage the House of Orange-Nassau died with Prince Willem III in 1702. The House of Nassau-Dietz became extinct with the deat of Queen Wilhelmina in 1962. Strictly spoken we do have a Queen from the House of Lippe.
But then we have a British queen from the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (same family as the Royal family of Belgium) and will have a British king from the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Gluecksburg (same family as the Royal families of Denmark and Norway). But I think that in modern times with female succession rights the "House"-name is inheritable through the mother as well. When Victoria of Sweden marries, surely her children will stay Bernadottes as will the children of the other future queens of Europe surely keep their dynasty's name.
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thanks for the informative reply

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No, they do not belong to the Royal House of the Netherlands or the House of Orange-Nassau and have no title 'Prince(ss) of the Netherlands' or 'Prince(ss) of Orange-Nassau'.

They belong to the royal family De Bourbon de Parme.

When Edwin said, there are 'real royals' and 'fake royals', there was a certain truth in that: if we follow the male lineage, then the House of Orange-Nassau died with Prince Willem III in 1702. The rights of the Orange-Nassaus were inherited by the collateral branch, the House of Nassau-Dietz. This House on its turn became extinct with the death of Queen Wilhelmina in 1962.

Strictly spoken we do have a Queen from the House of Lippe.
And in the nearby future we will witness the head of an untitled noble family (Von Amsberg) to assume the kingship.
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well, there is no truth in his remarks if he meant that the members of the house of Orange are fake royals. Being direct descendants of a famous predecessor isn't a requirement for being royal, which is what he implies. As Mr. de Roy might regret, it was the congress of Vienna which decided about who is royal and who is not, and not Mr de Roy van Z. But I am sure in his own twisted mind his own opinion should be more important to the world then that of Metternich, Talleyrand etc
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Hi marengo, Do you happen to have a link to where we can find information on the congress of vienna, with regards to the royal houses?
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