The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #61  
Old 08-24-2011, 11:51 AM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Leeuwarden, Netherlands
Posts: 351
Let's wait till nr. 4 comes along!
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 08-24-2011, 06:23 PM
lucien's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 6,579
Quote:
Originally Posted by grevinnan View Post
If indeed there are more children will they be retroactively included in the distribution of the estate of the late Prince?
No.It is not proven,and even if it was today,she would not be included retro or in any other way.And she isn't after that either.
Just another try by some author,or calling himself that,to make a buck over the back of the dead.Cheap...
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 08-25-2011, 03:25 PM
Marengo's Avatar
Administrator
Royal Blogger, TRF Author
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 17,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucien

No.It is not proven,and even if it was today,she would not be included retro or in any other way.And she isn't after that either.
Just another try by some author,or calling himself that,to make a buck over the back of the dead.Cheap...
Reading the story in the papers i would say it is not a surprise that van der linden reached this conclusion. Four different sources confirmed it. The lady in question and her husband Joop seem respectable and nice people. The couple has 6 children.

She can not claim anything since she was legally adopted and had parents already. She says that her parents were wonderful so i doubt that she will denounce them. .

btw alexia lejeune now lives in london and seems to have expositions of her photography work once in a while.
__________________
TRF Rules and FAQ
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 09-02-2011, 04:30 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto (ON) & London (UK), Canada
Posts: 5,272
Can we assume that the prince was not aware of her existence since he did acknowledge her like his did his other 2 illegimate daughters?
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 09-03-2011, 06:47 PM
Marengo's Avatar
Administrator
Royal Blogger, TRF Author
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 17,837
Neither Mildred nor the author of the book believe that Benrhard knew about it. Or perhaps he didn't want to know of course.

The interview on Knevel & van den Brink:

Player omroep.nl

Apparently it was Annejet van der Zijl who first traced down Mildred. She wrote a very succesful biography of the prince. She gave the info. to Marc as she said that this 'was not her style'.

Interestingly enough Marc van der Linden claims that prince Bernhard himself was the one who made sure that the press got the first picture of the prince and Alexia, as he thoguht it was time that people knew....

Van der Linden was too defensive IMHO. Basically he says that the lack of sources is the readers problem, not his...
__________________
TRF Rules and FAQ
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 10-19-2011, 01:12 PM
Marengo's Avatar
Administrator
Royal Blogger, TRF Author
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 17,837
According to author Thomas Ross, Pricne Bernhard had a 4th extramarital daughter. He will reveal the identity in his next book 'De Schaduw contra de Schorpioen' that will be out for sales next week. A cheap publicity stunt is very likely IMHO, Ross has not been very accurate in previous books and seems to mix phantasy and reality. Apart from that he is a dedicated republican and one of the most ardant haters of the late prince Bernhard.

Anyway, let's see what evidence comes up with.
__________________
TRF Rules and FAQ
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 10-20-2011, 02:25 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto (ON) & London (UK), Canada
Posts: 5,272
Does anyone really care anymore if Bernhard took his role as "father of the nation" overly seriously, lol, ? Would it be considered scandalous at this point of time? Would it damage the monarchy under Queen Beatrix?
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 10-20-2011, 06:02 PM
Marengo's Avatar
Administrator
Royal Blogger, TRF Author
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 17,837
Not really, he is generally seen as an old crook so an extra child here and there or another financial scandal wouldn't surprise anybody indeed.
__________________
TRF Rules and FAQ
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 01-02-2016, 07:54 AM
Lee-Z's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Heerlen, Netherlands
Posts: 2,217
Dutch newspaper Volkskrant reports that P.Bernhard's (alleged) illegitimate daughter Mildred Zijlstra wrote an autobiography (in dutch, don't think an english version is available) about her life and her search for her biological parents.
Mrs. Zijlstra was adopted as a baby and searched her biological parents later in life and eventually met her birthmother but who her birthfather was, was not mentioned.
Only in her 50's a family friend (who was well acquainted with P.Bernhard as well) blurted it out "Bernhard is your father", and after repeatedly asking her birthmother also said once that Bernhard indeed was the father, but never mentioned it again.
The birthmother put her up for adoption because the pregnancy was the result of a one-night stand during the celebrations at the end of WWII and she didn't feel a bond with the child. It is quite possible that P.Bernhard (or whoever the other half of the one-night-stand was) wasn't aware that there was a child born after the fling.

Mrs. Zijlstra did participate in a DNA test with another potential daughter of P.Bernhard (Jane Eales from Australia) but the test was inconclusive as to whether they had the same biological father.

It is also mentioned that different from the two daughters that P.Bernhard acknowledged (Alexia and Alicia), Mrs. Zijlstra was indeed adopted and therefore officially had a mother and father (her adoptive parents), which makes her position different from the other two ladies.

Anyway: no direct evidence that P.Bernhard is her father, but Mrs. Zijlstra is quite convinced that with all the circumstantial evidence that this is the case.
__________________
Wisdom begins in wonder - Socrates
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 01-02-2016, 08:07 AM
Duc_et_Pair's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: City, Christmas Island
Posts: 6,193
As so often, Mrs Zijlstra is a bit late. The good old man is dead for 12 years now...
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 01-02-2016, 08:14 AM
Lee-Z's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Heerlen, Netherlands
Posts: 2,217
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair View Post
As so often, Mrs Zijlstra is a bit late. The good old man is dead for 12 years now...
She's not writing her biography for revenge or because she wants to be a part of the Oranje family
__________________
Wisdom begins in wonder - Socrates
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 01-02-2016, 08:17 AM
Duc_et_Pair's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: City, Christmas Island
Posts: 6,193
Well, she has to convince you, me or others to buy her autobiography and why would anyone buy the story of a Mildred Zijlstra??? Oh wait... her father was Prince Bernhard. She says.

Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 01-02-2016, 08:20 AM
Lee-Z's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Heerlen, Netherlands
Posts: 2,217
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair View Post
Well, she has to convince you, me or others to buy her autobiography and why would anyone buy the story of a Mildred Zijlstra??? Oh wait... her father was Prince Bernhard. She says.

Yes, that is a fact, is that a problem for you?
__________________
Wisdom begins in wonder - Socrates
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 01-02-2016, 11:12 AM
lucien's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 6,579
I suppose "that is a fact" refers to the claim by that lady,NOT that she actually is an alledged daughter of our late bon vivant.Just to clear all doubts on that.

Mrs Zijlstra was on DWDD too a short while ago as well as on the late night show with Umberto Tan IIRC...I mean she's pretty active in getting her face around and her subsequent "message".
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 01-02-2016, 11:52 AM
Lee-Z's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Heerlen, Netherlands
Posts: 2,217
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucien View Post
I suppose "that is a fact" refers to the claim by that lady,NOT that she actually is an alledged daughter of our late bon vivant.Just to clear all doubts on that.

Mrs Zijlstra was on DWDD too a short while ago as well as on the late night show with Umberto Tan IIRC...I mean she's pretty active in getting her face around and her subsequent "message".
"That is a fact" in my message?
That refered to what was implied in the message that i responded to, namely that the main reason for anyone buying the autobiography is that P.Bernhard is allegedly her father; this to me seems pretty much the truth and therefore i used the phrase "that is a fact", but i should have used "I share your opinion that the main reason for anyone buying the autobiography is her mention of the name P.Bernhard"
__________________
Wisdom begins in wonder - Socrates
Reply With Quote
  #76  
Old 01-02-2016, 01:23 PM
Duc_et_Pair's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: City, Christmas Island
Posts: 6,193
So to read Prince Bernhard had no problems in paying for extramarital daughters or even letting them share in his heritage. So this Mildred Zijlstra is a bit late. But good luck Mildred. I am the illegitimate son of Claus von Amsberg, by the way. The King is my half-brother. Psssst... don't spread the news...

Reply With Quote
  #77  
Old 01-02-2016, 03:40 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: England, United Kingdom
Posts: 1,327
This was envitable really wasn't it. Look at how many people claim to be the illegitamte children of dead royals? Add to that Bernhard having admitted to having 2 illigitimate children its obvious people are going to use this to claim they are another illigitimate children and use his admission as some sort of justification
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 01-04-2016, 04:32 PM
Marengo's Avatar
Administrator
Royal Blogger, TRF Author
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 17,837
As one can read above: she was 'discovered' by Annejet Zijlstra, a very respectable and reliable historian and author. The story went to the press in 2011 but it seems only now Mrs. Zijlstra's book about her search is published.

The case that Zijlstra makes is a good one, which should be clear if some could overstep their prejudice about bastard children of royals who decide to speak out and who do not stay discreetly hidden in a corner. But indeed, she does not have DNA evidence.

As I said in 2011: she is not entitled to a share of the inheritance, as she is well aware. Although it may be difficult to believe for some cynics among us, sometimes people with a special story write that history down and share it with the rest of us. It happens all the time actually. To belittle Mrs. Zijlstra as a fortune hunter is unfair and petty.
__________________
TRF Rules and FAQ
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 08-19-2016, 07:43 PM
Blog Real's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Lisboa, Portugal
Posts: 1,588
What kind of relationship the Princess Beatrix with her stepsisters?
__________________
Acclamation Manuel II of Portugal: 6 May 1908
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 08-19-2016, 08:09 PM
Countessmeout's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: alberta, Canada
Posts: 4,173
Half-sisters. Step would mean they don't share a parent (Felix is half siblings with Henrik and Athena as share dad, William is step siblings with Tom and Laura as his dad married their mum).


At least according to Dutch wiki, Bea and her sisters have met the other 2 only once, when Bernhard died. Alicia and Alexia are said to keep in touch. Considering they are their dad's kids from affairs, and he never publically acknowledged them, its not surprising they don't have a relationship. The girls did visit their father in the last years.
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
illegitimate children, prince bernhard


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
June 2008 Newsletter: The illegitimate children of royals Lady Jennifer Picture of the Month, Special Features, Blogs and Articles 6 06-01-2008 10:02 PM




Popular Tags
ascot 2016 beatrice borromeo best gown best gown september 2016 best hat best outfit catherine middleton style child coup d'etat crown princess mary crown princess mary fashion current events denmark duchess of cambridge duchess of cornwall daytime fashion duke of cambridge dutch state visit e-mail fashion poll kate middleton king abdullah ii king carl gustaf birthday king philippe king willem-alexander martha louise member introduction monarchy new zealand norway november 2016 october 2016 opening of parliament picture of the week prince charles princess charlene outfits princess marie princess mary princess mary casual style princess mary daytime fashion princess mary fashion princess mary hats princess victoria 39th birthday queen elizabeth ii queen letizia queen letizia casual outfits queen letizia daytime fashion queen letizia fashion queen margrethe queen mathilde queen maxima queen maxima casual wear queen maxima daytime fashion queen maxima fashion queen maxima hats queen maxima style queen rania queen rania casual outfit queen rania daytime fashion queen rania fashion rohans september 2016 state visit state visit to denmark succession sweden the duchess of cambridge the duchess of cambridge casual wear the duchess of cambridge daytime fashion the duchess of cambridge fashion the duchess of cambridge hats


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:27 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2017
Jelsoft Enterprises