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02-13-2007, 12:11 PM
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Thank you for all the photos.
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02-13-2007, 12:12 PM
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beautiful photos! the orange children look cuter everyday. i have the impression they will be really close in the future.
alexia seemed to be tired or hungry, catharina seems to be getting used to cameras... she acts so naturally! i loved maxima's boots this time and specially the fact of her talking to the girls in dutch, spanish and english :) it's so good that they learn from their early life three languages...
can anyone tell us what maxima and willem tell the cameramen at the end of the NOS video?
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02-13-2007, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Henri M.
These pictures more or less show the new Royal House after the accession of Prince Willem-Alexander. The Act on the membership of the Royal House says: those who are in the line of succession and are no furtherer related to the King than two degrees of consanguity. The pictures already gives a hint:
0 HM The King
- HRH The Princess of the Netherlands (or: HM Queen Máxima)
1 HRH The Princess of Orange (Princess Catharina-Amalia)
1 HRH Princess Alexia of the Netherlands
1 HRH Prince(ss) .... of the Netherlands
1 HRH Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands
2 HRH Prince Constantijn of the Netherlands
- HRH Princess Laurentien of the Netherlands
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3 HRH Princess Margriet of the Netherlands*
- Professor mr. Pieter van Vollenhoven
* On base of the Act she would loose her membership of the Royal House because she is too far related to the King, but out of benevolence for her role she is allowed to remain a member of the House for life.
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i didn't know the queen would be addressed as princess beatrix if she abdicates... wouldn't she be allowed to be refered as the queen mother or something like that? princess seems such a low title after being queen and after the work that the queen does!
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02-13-2007, 12:49 PM
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Standing practice formalized
Queen Wilhelmina reigned for 58 years and after her abdication in 1948 she requested her daughter for permission 'to retain to the title I was known with before the kingship'. So she became 'Her Royal Highness Princess Wilhelmina of the Netherlands'.
When her daughter Queen Juliana abdicated in 1980, she made known she wanted to follow into her mother's footsteps. So she became 'Her Royal Highness Princess Juliana of the Netherlands'.
In the Act of 2002 this standing practice was formalized. After an abdication Queen Beatrix will retain to the style she was known before the kingship and will become 'Her Royal Highness Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands'.
This also means that when King Willem IV Alexander abdicates for his daughter, he will retain to the style he had before the kingship and become 'His Royal Highness Prince Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands'.
'Queen-Mother' is no option for the government because:
- the 'King' or the 'Queen' is exclusively the head of state (therefore the desire not to make Máxima Queen)
- this is never used for a former reigning Sovereign
- what about Willem-Alexander: will he become 'King-Father'?
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02-13-2007, 01:10 PM
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There is amazement about the attention poor Alexia got because she cryed according to HJA on his Royalblog.Imagine,a one and a half year old,trying to stay put in the slippery deep snow,with 30+ press people in front of your nose with camera's,falling over and then being the "subject" of conversations all over the world.Germany's largest daily newspaper had a pic of the "crying Princess" on it's front cover yesterday,poor Alexia.
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That is kinda sad it isn't her fault. She fell over and it was upsetting. I'm sure if W-A and Maxima had left her there standing crying the press would have had a problem with that too. Better to lift her and comfort her than leave her crying in front of the world's media 
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02-13-2007, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Amelie
but she said "mama is here, i'm right here" surely that is all in english and not dutch.
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no she didn't, or I'm deaf! I really don't think she said that, I even checked twice before responding! you tell me when you heard her saying I'm right here in the video.. 
seriously I didn;t hear a word of english. except when someone shouted the word party to stop alexia from crying, lol
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02-13-2007, 01:54 PM
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Indeed, she spoke Spanish, English and Dutch to her little Princesses. I have not heard Prince Willem-Alexander saying anything against the kids:
he was just glowing and beaming with a smile from ear to ear.
Fatherly pride, I think.
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no she didnt. and Willem-Alexander did say some stuff! go watch the video again..
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02-13-2007, 01:58 PM
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No English was spoken. Maxima spoke spanish with the girls, and said Mommy is here in Dutch not English. I just love it when she speaks spanish with the girls. Especially when she asked Alexia if she wanted to go 'abajo con Ama'. So cute 
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02-13-2007, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kissnl
I actually thought she was speaking dutch. I don't hear " I'm right here", i'm probably just deaf  RTL Boulevard video (with short interview!):
12-02: Peter doet verslag uit Lech |
yay, someone with ears :P and thanks for the link :)
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02-13-2007, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by princess leonor
No English was spoken. Maxima spoke spanish with the girls, and said Mommy is here in Dutch not English. I just love it when she speaks spanish with the girls. Especially when she asked Alexia if she wanted to go 'abajo con Ama'. So cute |
yeah I love it that the girls are spoken to in both dutch and spanish! and I now know some spanish words too!
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02-13-2007, 03:22 PM
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and now we know maxima calls amalia "ama", so sweet, although i love the complete name. sounds wonderful and so regal. i keep thinking they made a wonderful choice for the heir's name.
indeed, maxima does speak in english in the video. its about at the first part, when alexia is picked up by daddy and she calls "mama".
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02-13-2007, 03:36 PM
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Maxima definitely is not speaking english. She said 'mama is hier' which happens to sound almost the same as 'mommy is here', since 'hier' and 'here' are pronounced in the same way.
I really loved the pictures and I was glad to see Constantijn, Laurentien and the kids too! Thanks for sharing, all!
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02-13-2007, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxie
Maxima definitely is not speaking english. She said 'mama is hier' which happens to sound almost the same as 'mommy is here', since 'hier' and 'here' are pronounced in the same way.
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It indeed sounds really similar to the english pronounciation!
Honestly, when I first saw the video I thought Máxima was speaking German .
"Mama is hier!" (dutch) sounds very similar to "Mama ist hier." (German) ...
The sentence sounds so similar in all 3 languages...
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02-13-2007, 08:05 PM
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Does anyone know if they mentioned before what language do communicate to their kids? ENG & DUTCH
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02-13-2007, 08:24 PM
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Does anyone know if they mentioned before what language do communicate to their kids? ENG & DUTCH
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the princes of orange talk with the girls in spanish, dutch and english
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Today the world has embraced new royal Princesses in the form of Mary of Denmark and Maxima of the Netherlands. But it's questionable whether even these hugely popular, increasingly glamorous future Queens will ever capture the world's imagination in the same way as Diana.
As Mario acknowledges: "She really was a true Princess".
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02-13-2007, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AnneGirl
no she didn't, or I'm deaf! I really don't think she said that, I even checked twice before responding! you tell me when you heard her saying I'm right here in the video..
seriously I didn;t hear a word of english. except when someone shouted the word party to stop alexia from crying, lol |
Well, maybe her "Ik ben hier/mammie is hier" came across to some as being English as Maxima's "rr" sound sometimes seems to be similar to the type the well-heeled folks around Wassenaar tend to deploy (Dutchies here, you all get my drift  )
I think there's something infinitely more impressive here, though, than Maxima chatting in her native Spanish with her girls.
And it's, I think, the fact that you (if you're Dutch) can really tell from what she says in Dutch in the interview (and how she says it) that she really uses that language all thoughout her daily life. She's using colloquials (sp) from that language that she'd only know by really "living" that language day in and out.
And, no, that's not a given in her case. Not at all: For example, it is known that for example Monaco's Prince consort Gracia's French was notoriously bad, although it improved a bit over the years to be fair. But not to the level of where Maxima's Dutch already is today (even if she still makes mistakes here and there--it IS a difficult language to master).
Kudo's to Maxima, in other words, of her grasp of Dutch!
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02-14-2007, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxie
Maxima definitely is not speaking english. She said 'mama is hier' which happens to sound almost the same as 'mommy is here', since 'hier' and 'here' are pronounced in the same way.
I really loved the pictures and I was glad to see Constantijn, Laurentien and the kids too! Thanks for sharing, all! |
yes, hier definately sounds like here, thats why english speaking people will think it's english, and only dutch people (or maybe german people too) will hear that she really was speaking dutch, not english. hier may sound like here, it really isn't the same. there's a slightly different tone to it.
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02-14-2007, 10:34 AM
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the princes of orange talk with the girls in spanish, dutch and english
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I'm sorry, but I'm getting a little frustrated, can;t you read the previous posts? she really wasn;t speaking english. and it's not just you, there are others too who keep claiming that they heard maxima speak english. but she really didn;t. come on, trust us dutchies on this, we should know!!
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02-14-2007, 11:27 AM
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Ok. So Máxima speaks spanish&dutch to the girls and Willem-Alexander in dutch... but in which language do Máxima&W-A talk to each other?English or Dutch?
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02-14-2007, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Princess Maxima
Ok. So Máxima speaks spanish&dutch to the girls and Willem-Alexander in dutch... but in which language do Máxima&W-A talk to each other?English or Dutch?
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Dutch, Spanish and English.
Also the Prince can understand Spanish very well, and speak it more or less.
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