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Old 12-31-2007, 05:11 PM
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any news about how is the condition of Ariane? hope she is ok . I am sure is a lot of stress for the parents to have her daughter sick and on top of that having the press on top of them!
She is fine. As Verde E said, her sickness was due to the climate change

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Old 12-31-2007, 06:14 PM
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:36 PM
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Oh my goodness, what some people will do to get a couple of pictures. I'm glad to hear that Ariane is ok now, but hope this problem will not continue throughout her life.
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Oh my goodness, what some people will do to get a couple of pictures.
Well, the photographers didnt do anything 'wrong'. They were just waiting to see Máxima's car leaving from the hospital, and the bodyguards started to attack them, including a female photographer... really incredible
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Well, the photographers didnt do anything 'wrong'. They were just waiting to see Máxima's car leaving from the hospital, and the bodyguards started to attack them, including a female photographer... really incredible
but after to listen the video, my godness, all this dirty words!!!, the photographers could use a better language!
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but after to listen the video, my godness, all this dirty words!!!, the photographers could use a better language!
Well, they were all very angry. Dirty words are so rude but when people are fighting like this, what can we expect?
I don't think the photographers were doing anything wrong. They didn't attack anyone, or put anyone's life in risk. They were doing their job, just like they did in the last photosession.
These bodyguards were too much violent , IMO.
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I`m glad Ariane is ok
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This is shocking. I know how fustrating this can be on the bodyguard having to deal with the journalist's/photographers but to the point to hit him is abit over the top. I would understand if he had pushed him or something like that. I also think the using bad language was wrong, not because they are crown prince/s but its simply rude imo.

Do we know what happened to the bodyguard? Did he fly over with the family? I also hope Ariane is doing better...
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Well, they were all very angry. Dirty words are so rude but when people are fighting like this, what can we expect?
I don't think the photographers were doing anything wrong. They didn't attack anyone, or put anyone's life in risk. They were doing their job, just like they did in the last photosession.
These bodyguards were too much violent , IMO.
And i belive the bodyguards were doing their job!
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And i belive the bodyguards were doing their job!
The bodyguards job is to protect and defend their clients from real threats, not to hit photographers who were not attacking anyone. That's the reason I think the bodyguards behaviour was excessive. If the photographerss were violating the Argentinian law, the royal couple could have called the Police. I understand this is a hard period for the Princes but they have to deal with the public interest about them. They cannot call the photographers to their photosessions one day, and kick them out like this the other next day.

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imo opinion it looks like he saved her live pulling her from in front of a car that was going to hit her, i mean that car was going pretty fast and she was in its path- might be a tactic to slow down the car, but seems kinda drastic-
royal cars kills aggressive photographer, oh wait it actually has a nice ring to it.
i've been caught in the madness of scrum trying to get photos i can't believe more arent' trampled and injured- vultures, nasty creatures
hope the little one is ok, worrying with your child and have to contend with
all this, i hope they don't cut their trip short.
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This is shocking. I know how fustrating this can be on the bodyguard having to deal with the journalist's/photographers but to the point to hit him is abit over the top. I would understand if he had pushed him or something like that.
I believe the photographer that was struck was female. Many of the people there yelled to the bodyguard "You hit a woman!"
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I believe the photographer that was struck was female. Many of the people there yelled to the bodyguard "You hit a woman!"
thats even worse. thanks, didnt know it was a women photographer. Well imo the bodyguard should of hit. Maybe this will keep all photographers away from the crown prince couple during the rest of the holiday
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I believe the bald guard first pushed her aside to let the car get out, and then she reacted, therefore he (over) reacted. I am a little bit fed up with the local press and their attitude, but this guy went too far as well. And they were indeed in a public space, true (though vulnerating the familys privacy) Just keeping her aside would have been the right thing to do. Sad.
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Apparently, some member of the local government has spoken about the incident and claimed that the way in which the custody treated the journalists was "desequilibrado y deleznable" (let's say, excessive and despicable) and also wondered "what kind of information was trying to be hidden, in order to do such a thing".

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I believe the photographer that was struck was female. Many of the people there yelled to the bodyguard "You hit a woman!"
Yes, she was a woman. I dont see the exact moment of the "hit", but she textually says to La Nacion:

"El jefe de la custodia me tomó de las axilas, me zarandeó en el aire, me sentí muy mal, me bajó al piso y exhibiéndome los puños me decía ´come on, come on´".

(The chief of the custody grabbed me by the armpits, shook me in the air, I felt really bad, he lowered me to the floor and showing his fists to me he said 'come on, come on'.)

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It seems that the bodyguard was just doing his job. He did not hit her.
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Having watched the video I would say the bodyguard needed to react but perhaps went a little over. He pulled her out of the path of the car and then she started lashing out. Even when taken away she was trying to fight back. She should be deeply ashamed of herself trying to get at a family already under stress. I wonder if she had been a male photographer would there have been a similar reaction.
Also from watchin the video I didn't see him hit her only restraining her by holding her arms. However she hit him over the head while another photographer kicked his car door! Paparazzi know no boundaries

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She over react also! I think for the journalist it is their job they are doing and imagine thet you have someone who make your job difficult so it is quite normal that you react over that person!To the jornalist it is very important to get a nice photo of Maxima it is her job and a way to get some money so it is very important to her and we must understand that
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