the royal forums

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Reigning Houses > Imperial Family of Japan > Japanese Royal History
Portal Royal Articles Royal Calendar Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read




Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-05-2006, 10:53 AM
Commoner
Irvine - United States
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 26
Default what would have happened if the emperor was kicked out after WWII?

what would have happened if the emperor was kicked out after WWII?

were there ever any debates about keeping or abolishing the emperor?
(either among the Japanese people or the US military/govt)

thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-16-2006, 01:19 PM
Elspeth's Avatar
Administrator
Articles Editor in Chief
Book Club Advisor
*** - United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,344
Default

I think it might have been much easier for Japan to follow so many of the other countries of southeast Asia into Communism. I gather the Chinese were trying to orchestrate a Communist takeover of the Japanese government; the strong feelings of many Japanese in favour of their Emperor may have been part of why the takeover wasn't successful.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-16-2006, 06:50 PM
EmpressRouge's Avatar
Courtier
- United States
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 646
Default

Hirohito was not tried for war crimes, and the Japanese were allowed to keep their emperor but there were conditions the most significant of which was a declaration that he was no longer divine. Even that drove some Japanese to suicide.

Last edited by EmpressRouge; 10-16-2006 at 06:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-16-2006, 08:05 PM
Elspeth's Avatar
Administrator
Articles Editor in Chief
Book Club Advisor
*** - United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,344
Default

Elizabeth Gray Vining's book about her time as tutor to the current emperor when he was a boy talks about the conditions in Japan in the immediate postwar period, and it sounded absolutely dire. That sort of deprivation and societal breakdown are often precursors to anarchy or revolution. I'm sure the existence of the imperial family was a stabilising influence even with the occupation-imposed changes to their scope and size.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-16-2006, 08:30 PM
Toledo's Avatar
Royal Highness
Spain, residing in the USA - United States
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,591
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KathyMoore
what would have happened if the emperor was kicked out after WWII?
were there ever any debates about keeping or abolishing the emperor?
(either among the Japanese people or the US military/govt)

thanks!
That sounds like a great topic for one of those alternate history fiction books. My wild guess is that life would be just like it is now...minus one monarch.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-16-2006, 09:38 PM
Mandy's Avatar
Administrator
Picture of the Month Advisor
Articles Editor
- United States
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,314
Default

Because the emperor was highly revered in Japan, the USA kept Hirohito as a figurehead to control the masses and prevent anarchy. I doubt very much that Japan would be just another country minus one monarch. As you see, Britain demanded that Hiroito be tried for war crimes, but the USA refused knowing full well the dangers involved in prosecuting an emperor since emperors had been revered like gods for centuries. It would have ensured the occupation's failure.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-16-2006, 10:07 PM
Lady Jennifer's Avatar
Super Moderator
Assistant Newsletter Editor
Denver - United States
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,896
Default

This is an interesting topic. Gotta love the "what if" questions in life.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandy
As you see, Britain demanded that Hiroito be tried for war crimes, but the USA refused knowing full well the dangers involved in prosecuting an emperor since emperors had been revered like gods for centuries. It would have ensured the occupation's failure.
Its good to see that they thought ahead & knew something like that could possibly happen. I guess in a way they thought it might cause another Hitler- like figure to rise to power if they had removed the Emperor?
__________________
Take a peek @ the Royal Forum Rules, and FAQ.
"Life is a succession of moments. To live each one is to succeed." - Corita Kent
Live, Highlander. Grow stronger. Fight another day. Highlander: The Series

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-16-2006, 11:35 PM
Serene Highness
Buenos Aires - Argentina
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,500
Default

I, for one, doesn't like the words "kicked out" for a serious history thread. And of course, you know that I'm against Republics in general , so I think that the best of all things is always conserve the Monarchs, who are the symbol of the historical and cultural roots of a Nation.

I agree that without an Emperor, Japan could have been quite easily pushed to Communism, or at least to a social war, which is always dangerous.

But again...Only Japanese could decide which kind og governement they wants to have and which rules should rule them. I think that no country (nor coalition of countries) must have any right to decide any political internal issue of a foreign State. "Progress" and "correct political ways" spread too much blood in our poor little world.

Vanesa.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What Has Happened To The Mathilde And Jeweler karolinabraganza Crown Prince Philippe and Crown Princess Mathilde and Family 2 12-12-2003 12:05 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:11 PM.



Other Social Knowledge forum communities:
Cooking Forum - Sailing Forum - Early Retirement
Airstream Trailer Forum - Aquarium & Reef Forum
Royal Forum - Book and Reader Forum - Yoga Forum
Volkswagen Touareg Forum - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Whitewater Kayaking & Rafting Forum - Yoga Forum
Interference - U2, Pop Culture & Social Responsibility - Fashion Industry Forum
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2008
Jelsoft Enterprises
eXTReMe Tracker

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0