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Old 09-16-2007, 10:33 AM
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16 September 2007 --> Kate Green reports, "Zara Phillips put heat on rivals," The Sunday Times

15 September 2007 --> Catherine Austen reports, "Britain leads Europeans after cross-country," Horse and Hound
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:17 AM
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Unhappy

She finished 6th,she got problems during the showjumping :(
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:19 AM
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It's surprising she did so well in cc and not so well in show jumping. Cross country seems so much harder to my uninformed eyes.
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Zara is always better at cross country than at showjumping and dislikes sj.
It's such a pity,she really deserved a medal.
She must be gutted...The team got the gold though
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What a great shame, after such a good performance on the cross country course too, plus Toytown behaved himself during dressage, which he is not always apt to do.

After thundering round the cross country, the showjumps can seem very flimsy and easily knocked if your horse isn't careful and a clean jumper or has just had enough by this stage. It's so crucial but then exactly why eventing is so exciting, no one person ever has it in the bag.

Gold for Team GB is excellent news though


During her brief TV interview yesterday, Zara was asked how Mum and Dad would react to her efforts so far, Zara laughed and said "no doubt they'll be pleased but will point out all my mistakes and how I could have done better". With both parents having been in the same position she takes it in good stead, knowing they just want the best for her performance.
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:00 PM
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Pics 16.9.2007

Zara Phillips smiles after the prize ceremony at the European Equestrian
Championships 2007 in the Pratoni Del Vivaro, south of Rome, 16 Sep
2007. AFP PHOTO/ TIZIANA FAB/Getty Images

Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3 ** Pic 4
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:47 PM
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Iceflower thank you for those photo's, it's good to see her smiling afterwards after all they still won gold for the team.

I bet she's kicking herself over the showjumping and will relive the approach to that fence in her dreams, not to mention the chastisement she'll get from Anne and Mark but it's no worse than the hard time she'll give herself. They announced on the television that she was upset directly after the round, in tears in fact but, that's the way it goes in the horse world !

She'll be back to fight another day !
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:29 PM
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It's surprising she did so well in cc and not so well in show jumping. Cross country seems so much harder to my uninformed eyes.
Not so much harder, but different. In the CC you need a really bold galloping horse who will jump what we call 'the naturals' ie bank, drop, dry ditch, water jump. The SJ require precision, speed, turning ability, and above all carefulness. You can get away with touching the jumps on the CC, because they are wired into place, but in the SJ if you rub a rail, it's on break away cups and will fall, incurring faults. Each aspect is difficult, but for different reasons, if that makes sense.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:12 PM
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Zara deserves a good job for her hard work, although she came in sixth she helped Great Britain bring back the gold. Good job Zara.
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:54 AM
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It's surprising she did so well in cc and not so well in show jumping. Cross country seems so much harder to my uninformed eyes.
Cross Country always seems so much easier to me, although we, (the horses and I), don't do as much now as we used to.

Still a good job though and congratulations to Zara and the rest of the team!
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:04 AM
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Cross Country always seems so much easier to me, although we, (the horses and I), don't do as much now as we used to.
Is it because on show jumping, there is more emphasis on the perfect form of the jump? I don't know if it is so, only guesssing at why cross country could be considered "easier", though I'm sure both have their own challenges.
Or maybe because there is a tighter concourse with show jumping, where the cross country course has more running time between the obstacles?

At any rate, here are some pics of Zara and Stephanie at the Burghley trials:
Rex 1
Rex 2
Steph and Sandy watch Zara (Rex)
Stephanie is a pretty girl.
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:20 AM
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Stephanie Phillips was born 2 Oct 1997.
How are her relationships with her step-siblings?
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:36 AM
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Stephanie Phillips was born 2 Oct 1997.
How are her relationships with her step-siblings?
Their relationship looks nice. I think Sandy sees Zara a lot as much as Mark because both of them are involved with her training. Isn't Sandy Zara's dressage coach?

Reuters added more pics of Zara to their British Royal Family slideshow yesterday. There is a cute one of Zara and Mike being silly. It's the third pic right now, but the number could change if they, hopefully, add more pics.
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Their relationship looks nice. I think Sandy sees Zara a lot as much as Mark because both of them are involved with her training. Isn't Sandy Zara's dressage coach?

Reuters added more pics of Zara to their British Royal Family slideshow yesterday. There is a cute one of Zara and Mike being silly. It's the third pic right now, but the number could change if they, hopefully, add more pics.
That's not Zara, that's some other girl.
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Toytown loves to be photographed.

The message that I got was that if there is no upgrade in the quality of groom then more fences will be knocked down.
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Toytown loves to be photographed.

The message that I got was that if there is no upgrade in the quality of groom then more fences will be knocked down.

Arncliffe, could you explain further please what it is you've heard ?
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:58 PM
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Nothing what I have heard. I was just reading Toytown's expression in the Reuters photo collection especially the one with him and Mike. Toytown looked willfully unimpressed with an attitude designed to get even over Zara's divided affections.

This horseandhound thread lays the blame for the dropped fence as 50/50.

Horse and Hound Online Forum: Lucinda's comment about Toytown getting it wrong in the SJ.

Toytown apparently allowed himself to be distracted. ( He might have been looking for another groom.)
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Is it because on show jumping, there is more emphasis on the perfect form of the jump? I don't know if it is so, only guesssing at why cross country could be considered "easier", though I'm sure both have their own challenges.
Or maybe because there is a tighter concourse with show jumping, where the cross country course has more running time between the obstacles?

At any rate, here are some pics of Zara and Stephanie at the Burghley trials:
Rex 1
Rex 2
Steph and Sandy watch Zara (Rex)
Stephanie is a pretty girl.
Form is irrelevant in the CC and SJ phases. Leave the jumps up and go the fastest and you win. In dressage it's very important. Kind of the diference between hockey and fugure skating if that makes sense.
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The Queen and Duke of Edinburgh toured China from the 12th to 18th October, 1986.

This was the tour where the Duke got into trouble for his 'slitty eyes' comment.

The flight to China is about 14 hours. To Australia that is only the first leg of the flight. Then we have another 7 hour flight.

However, long overseas tours are things that she has been cutting back recently. Remember she is 81 and will be 82 next year.

I am sure that you would go and see your grandchild compete but your visit is not a State matter, which hers would be. There would be all sorts of considerations that would need to be put into place. These would have to be done long before the announcement of the team and what a let down that would be for her to make all the diplomatic arrangements etc and then find that Zara isn't in the team. She wouldn't then be able to pull out and decide not to go as that would be seen as an insult to the Chinese.

Unfortunately for the Queen everything she does has implications far and away from being an ordinary mother and grandmother - remember all the people baying for her blood in 1997 when she was acting as a grandmother to her two distraught grandsons when their mother died but the people expected her to stop being a grandmother and come and comfort them.

This is similar - her government would have to approve her going and then the Chinese would have to invite her and approve and then all the security etc. That is why I doubt that she would go - but I am sure that she would love to. Hopefully Zara will also make the team in 2012 and then The Queen can go as those games are in London and the Queen will be there as she will be opening them.
Only problem is that she has a world/olympic caliber horse NOW and is at the top of her game NOW, maybe not in another four years. Even with an unlimited cheque book, it's like lightening striking to have a horse of that ability. The really top flight ones are virtually impossible to buy, because the owners dont want them sold out of the country. Most of the really good European Warmblood horses are at this time coming from Germany and Holland.
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Form is irrelevant in the CC and SJ phases. Leave the jumps up and go the fastest and you win. In dressage it's very important. Kind of the diference between hockey and fugure skating if that makes sense.
It makes sense, kind of. I thought form was important in SJ because the object seems to be the perfect jump, with the 45-degree angles on "up" position and "over and down". I honestly don't know about SJ. I skimmed through some key points of a book about it once, and this 45-degree angle stuff sticks out in my memory. Either I'm remembering it inaccurately or this stuff is really second-nature to these SJ riders, such that they just do it perfectly in their sleep practically.
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