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Old 07-25-2003, 10:20 AM
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25 July 1989: Royal approval for Aids sufferers
The Princess of Wales has opened a new Aids centre in south-east London.
She gave director Jonathan Grimshaw - diagnosed HIV positive five years ago - a firm handshake before going inside the Landmark Centre in Tulse Hill for a private tour.

This was the first attempt to de-stigmatise the condition by a high profile member of the Royal Family

Mr Grimshaw said: "The princess was genuinely moved by the difficulties facing patients."

The Landmark aims to be more than just a refuge and will offer advice and support on issues from housing to dietary needs.

Princess Diana spent an hour in the community-based centre and joined in a discussion group with some of the first clients to use the facility, including women.

She was surprised to learn about the additional prejudices women with Aids and HIV have to deal with.

"I think it's terrible what they have to go through", she exclaimed.

Afterwards the Princess of Wales staged an impromptu walkabout, in spite of the heat.

About Aids

Aids - Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome - was first recognised as a medical condition in the US in 1981.

Later that year Dr Tony Pinching diagnosed the first case in the UK, in a heterosexual woman, at St Mary's Praed Street Clinic in London.

By the end of 1984, 108 people were known to be suffering from the disease in the UK and there had been 46 deaths.

In 1985 the UK Department of Health published its first advice on Aids and it was reported in 51 countries.

Within two years the UK Government launched the 'Don't Die of Ignorance' public awareness campaign and Princess Diana opened the country's first Aids ward at Middlesex Hospital.

The symptoms of Aids include chronic fatigue, diarrhoea and severe skin rashes.

It is caused by the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) and there is no known cure.

In Context
Early in 2001 the services provided by Landmark were integrated with Lighthouse, part of the Terrence Higgins Trust, and became known as Lighthouse South London.
Richard Hill became director of the centre, but Jonathan Grimshaw - now living and working in Brighton - still chairs various groups and works as a consultant.

The Landmark Centre at Tulse Hill provided a drop-in service for Aids and HIV positive sufferers until the facility moved to Waterloo in summer 2002.

The World Health report listed Aids as one of the fourth biggest global killers in 1999.

Princess Diana's work in de-stigmatising the illness has been recognised with the Diana, Princess of Wales, Lectures on Aids, beginning in 1999.

The BBC's Jennie Bond reports: "there was a firm handshake for the project's director."

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I just read about Dianas niece Emily beeing illl.. does anyone know how she´s doing?
poor girl... I hope she gets better!

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i thinking Diana's niece still chemo for Cancer makes more fighting or till she died in months i hope so wait find out!

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Sara, I dont understand what you meen? Is she still in chemo, or did she die?!
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Originally posted by Yennie@Aug 18th, 2003 - 4:31 am
Sara, I dont understand what you meen? Is she still in chemo, or did she die?!
i mean chemo like as test

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The recent Discovery Channel program called Unsolved History claimed to do a forensic analysis of the crash in Paris which killed Diana and Dodi Fayed but it was quite disappointing. Other than repeatedly saying it was an "accident", they offered little of substance -- other than to effectively point out that the driver Henri Paul was probably not drunk as claimed in official reports.

During the evening of 29 January 1999, five hundred and sixteen days after the death of Princess Diana, various assorted camera crews stood assembled outside the Ritz Hotel in London. Prince Charles was finally “coming out” with his mistress Camilla Parker-Bowles on his arm, and the London media had been primed in advance about the photo opportunity.
As the smiling pair happily descended the steps of the Ritz, flash bulbs predictably started popping all over the place. But then the unthinkable happened. From a location above and behind the media pack, someone fired a powerful Pulsed-Strobe “Less Than Lethal” optical weapon directly at the Prince and Camilla. Though slightly diffused by the flash bulbs below, the intense distinctive blue-white pulses were still powerful enough to make Camilla Parker-Bowles stumble slightly, and then turn pale.

Adding to the mystery is the fact that the weapon used, was almost identical to one assumed to be used in the Pont de l' Alma tunnel against Princess Diana and Dodi Al-Fayed on 31 August 1997, just after they left the Paris Ritz hotel on their last journey. .............. “When this LTL weapon fires, it pulses high-intensity brilliant white light at brain frequencies, inducing complete neural confusion for between two and five seconds. Line-of-sight exposure is overwhelming and renders the target completely incapable of meaningful brain function. Exposure at oblique angles causes moderate to severe mental confusion.
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What if, just what if the whole story is different than that fed the media -- being the conspiracy nut that I am -- what if Charles wasn't the one that rejected Diana initially, but the other way around?

I remember thinking when they got married that Diana had far to much style, grace, charm and beauty to be paired with Prince Charles who never did seem exactly like 'Prince Charming', and that she just married him to be the HRH, Diana Princess of Wales and she would soon tire of him.

What if she did quickly tire of him and start having affairs, and to save face for each of them, they both agreed to switch the real roles each played, because after all, who has ever rejected the Prince of Wales in history? It's always about the Prince of Wales and his other women instead. That is the way the story is suppose to be. With the current scenario, Diana could then become the beloved queen of hearts, and Charles could be the preferred Macho Lover Man.

It always seemed if the story given the media was true, that Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip would have had more sympathy for Diana -- after all, she just loved their son, and he just had cheating on his mind. The level of hostility displayed by Prince Charles's parents towards Diana suggests that this is not the real story.

Of course, I merely have anecdotal experience to suggest this, but I remember my parent's response to my brother's wife who cheated on him. If she had an HRH before her name, they would certainly have stripped it from her.

More anecdotal evidence is that in most divorces caused by the obvious adultery of just one of the parents, the children affected by that divorce will usually show quite a bit of hostility towards the cheating parent -- assuming they know about it, which obviously William and Harry did, and yet, these boys seem to have a lot of affection for their dad, Prince Charles. Things don't quite add up, and 2 + 2 /= 5 no matter what the media claim???
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Hi Thissal!!

Interesting theory, and I think you could have a point. But, I thought I would just add this, apparently, for a period, the boys did resent Charles, at the beginning of the seperation. I think they got over it because, apparently, the one thing Charles and Diana never argued over was their boys. Moreover, I'm sure they know about Hewitt and Camilla because they were so publicized, but do you think they know about all of Diana's lovers? Well, I guess there is no real way of knowing, but basically I'm saying, if Diana was the one to reject Charles, do you think they would be aware of the situation?

Also, when Diana and Charles divorced, there wasn't really a royal protocol on how to handle these situations. So, perhaps the Queen thought she was doing the proper thing by removing her HRH because, after all, here is a women that married into royalty, and now she is unmarring into the family, therefore she shouldn't be considered royal. And, when the years went on and Diana became increasingly public about the royal family (The interview with Martin Bashier comes to mind), perhaps the Queen and Prince Philip became more and more hostile because of the revelations.

I guess this just goes to show that there are two sides of every issue!! :P
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when she divorces from Prince Charles in 1996 because she hate him lots she knew because Charles had affair with Camilla since 1972 before Diana married to Charles in 1981.

I think Diana and Charles need good married and trust love not ingore but both got affair with other people but Her Majesty didnt know that Diana and Charles got affiar since Harry's birth. Diana got affair with James Hewitt after Harry's birth till 1990 then she had more lovers like Rugby, Olive Horace but i read about Diana and James got kissed but photographer caught both it! but Her Majesty didnt know that!

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here Diana's websites is

I look Diana's image its cool with water when she dies i like it!

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Hi Jalmey,

You could have a point too in that the only ones who really know what happened between Charles and Diana is either one/or both of them. However, there isn't always 2 sides to every issue, at least not 2 "good" sides because there are many sociopaths, psychopaths, narcissists and criminal minds in the world making up one side of the story. I'm sure Ivan the Terrible, Hitler, Jeffrey Dalmer etc., would like to claim they had some justification on their side, but you might understand why I'm doubtful. :flower:
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Originally posted by sara1981@Aug 24th, 2003 - 9:33 pm
Her Majesty didnt know that Diana and Charles got affiar since Harry's birth. .................................but i read about Diana and James got kissed but photographer caught both it! but Her Majesty didnt know that!

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I'm sure that where Her Majesty is concerned, the night has a thousand eyes.
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Originally posted by Yennie@Aug 25th, 2003 - 4:24 am
"Diana, I believe, was born to change the world and roll back the shutters of a rigid and distant monarchy."

Aye, that she did.
Was it really necessary to roll back the shutters on a distant and rigid monarchy? Some personal matters regarding disfunction within families is better left in private -- if there's no good reason to know, which would be the case with the British monarchy, except for one thing.

I do suspect that "the firm" was trying to brand Diana as mentally unstable and thus unfit to be mother and their intention was to keep her children away from her and to leave her without any significant financial resources. Under those circumstances, I don't blame Diana for making everything as public as she could. It probably was needed for her to maintain contact with her children.
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The Late Princess Diana

Here´s the "supposed", no one knows if its true, last interview Diana gave. It´s from the french Magazine "Le Monde"
Le Monde - August 27, 1997
Interview by Annick Cojean

London - This time Princess Diana was the hostess. That role fitted her well. It gave her gestures an extra grace and placed flashes of joy and a bust of boldness in her royal-blue-eyed gaze.

Yes, the princess would see me - at 11 a.m. sharp, the fax specified. And if not for that cab driver who drove me straight to a hotel with the same name as Kensington Palace - the princess's residence - I would have been on time.

But the princess didn't impose the punctuality of a queen who counted her seconds and withdrew her smile as if she were taking off a hat. The princess was at home, relaxed, independent. It was probably the only place where she didn't risk being targeted by camera zooms.

She was wearing a short, sleeveless dress, matching her eyes, unless they were reflecting its color. She wore a necklace of large pearls, high heels and a quite assurance demonstrated by her smile and her friendly way of proffering her hand.

Above all, she seemed free, and her simplicity was a nice surprise coming from someone whom protocol dictates should be addressed as "Ma'am."

But, afterall, she had accepted the idea of an interview focused on a photograph of her. The idea entranced her, she replied upon receipt of the letter of request. She was ready to play the game.

As for the choice of photos, there was an embarrassment of riches. She was certainly the world's most photographed person. Since each shot of her was reprinted a thousand times, we decided to make an exception to the rule and to let her pick from a selection we offered her.

Diana led us to a private reception room on the second floor, a warm, feminine room decorated in pastels and beiges, with a few pieces of antique furniture and comfortable armchairs and, everywhere possible, wood- and silver-framed photos. They were mostly of her two sons, William and Harry; and also of her two sisters and brother, and her late father, Earl Spencer. It seemed that the princess had drawers full of pictures. But it was our selection that interested her immediately - no stolen, private or intimate shots, but known pictures of the public personality that reinforced the legend of the warmhearted princess focusing on a social problem or a humanitarian cause.

Diana looked at them one at a time, giving a spirited account of each: where, when, with whom.

"I pay a great deal of attention to people, and I remember them," she said. "Every meeting, every visit is special."

She passed in review a children's hospital, a shelter for the homeless, a jobless centre, an AIDS research lab, a battered women's hospice, a leprosarium tent in Zimbabwe, a nutrition camp in Nepal.

Then Diana stopped at a photocopy of the picture shown on this page that was taken in 1996 in Pakistan.

"That little boy died," she said, staring fixedly at the image. "I had a foreboding before taking him in my arms. I remember his face, his pain, his voice... This photo is very special to me."

She put it aside on the sofa and continued to look somewhat distractedly through the other pictures. She laughed out loud occasionally over some that caught her being too formal. But she returned to the picture of the child.

"If I have to pick one out, without any hesitation, it's this one," she said.

What was there to explain? It was neither self-flattery nor calculation. The photograph moved her "because it's genuine." That was all.

Surrounded by the relatives of other little patients, the princess felt she was playing her proper role, in harmony, in sympathy, in communion with the group that day of February 1996. Her feelings were not posed. Her contemplativeness was deep. The heartbeats of the little boy were, she said, at that moment, the most important thing.

She would have liked to communicate to him her strength, her good health, her love. How do you depict a princess at work?

The photo showed a human experience, not an official duty.

"It's really a private moment in a public event - a private emotion that a photo turns into public behavior. It's a curious coming together of things. Still, if I had the choice, it's in that kind of surrounding, where I feel perfectly in harmony, that I prefer to be photographed."

Private, public, where's the distinction?

The princess created confusion by shattering the borderline between the two spheres, by introducing privacy into the public space. She put feeling and emotion into her official duties and obligations. There was no defensive outer armor. The commitment was sincere and she put her best into it.

It was also risky. The public had felt it from the start, under the spell of her compassion and her identification with common people. The Establishment, the politicians and princes of appearance were far less appreciative. In a flash, the princess revealed their coldness, their distance, their cynicism.

Look at her gestures with the Bosnian grandmother she took to her bosom, with a young man afflicted with AIDS whose hand she held between hers so long, with the little one-legged Angolan child that sat on her lap. She kissed, caressed, embraced.

"Yes, I do touch. I believe that everyone needs that, whatever their age. when you put your hand on a friendly face, you make contact right away; you communicate warmth, show that you're close by. It's a gesture that comes to me naturally from the heart. It's not premeditated."

She didn't play Lady Bountiful, didn't care about protocol, ignored the officials, rejected anything that might have been humiliating for the people she visited.

Her enthusiasm had raised many a Royal Family eyebrow. The Lady-Di style was laid back - especially when it became clear that beyond projecting a more modern image, it reflected a new relationship with people. The young woman had to hold herself back, and she sometimes had doubts about her role.

"From the first day I joined that family, nothing could be done naturally any more."

The public gradually gave her self-confidence. It was the ill, the children, the excluded whom she visited with unprecedented diligence who persuaded her that she had the right approach and a gift for human contact.

And it was from the public that she drew a force and almost a raison d'etre in the difficult moments.

"I feel close to people, whoever they are. We're immediately at the same level on the same wavelength. That's why I upset certain circles. It's because I'm much closer to the people at the bottom than the people at the top, and the latter won't forgive me for it. I have a real feeling of closeness with the most humble people. My father always taught me to treat everyone as an equal. I've always done so, and I'm sure that Harry and William will follow in my footsteps."

There were values over which the mother of the next king would not compromise. She was a determined young woman, a 36-year-old princess who didn't yet know what course her personal life would take but who wanted to maintain her commitment, no matter what.

"Being constantly in the public eye gives me a special responsibility, particularly that of using the impact of photographs to transmit a message, to sensitize the world to an important cause, to defend certain values."

As an ambassador? As a prestigious representative?

"If I must define my role, I'd rather use the word 'messenger.'"

Her official obligations ended with her divorce and her initiatives became the ones she chose herself. There, again, she showed her independence.

"Nobody can dictate my conduct. I work on instinct. It's my best adviser."

Her campaigns against landmines, against AIDS, for cancer research, for lepers were her priorities. The photo showing her holding the hands of lepers did more to demystify the illness than all the press campaigns of the past 20 years.

But at the cost of so much controversy, humiliation and talk!

"Every single time," she sighed.

When she visited a shelter for the homeless, she was accused of endorsing the Tory government. When, in the early '80s, she made a tender gesture to an AIDS patient, certain Conservatives saw it as a culpable indulgence for immorality.

Her spontaneous contacts with Untouchables in India made the Old Empire Loyalists choke with rage. When she visited a hospital founded by Imran Khan, the husband of her friend Jemima, the press took up the scandalized accusations of Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto that Diana was helping a political opponent.

When she attended a heart transplant in an African hospital, she was accused of indecent coquettery. The papers homed in on a closeup of her wearing a surgical mask and - horrors - makeup on her eyes.

"The press is ferocious," she said. "It pardons nothing. It looks only for mistakes. Every intention is twisted, every gesture criticized. I think things are different abroad. I'm greeted with kindness. I'm accepted as I am, without prejudices, without watching for every faux pas. In Britain, it's the other way round. And I think that in my place, any sane person would have left long ago. But I can't. I have my sons to think about."

The most striking incident was probably her trip to Angola earlier this year. The princess had planned for a long time the visit organized by the Red Cross to call attention to the tragedy of the 70,000 landmine victims in the country and support the world campaign to ban them.

She was seen spending hours listening to young people mutilated by mines, to doctors, to mine clearers. She was photographed wearing protective gear to cross mine fields and watch defusing operations.

But it was London that set off the headlines, and the polemics got the spotlight once again. Tory circles went wild, the British Foreign Office lurked in the shadows.

"A loose cannon," shot an aristocratic member of Parliament.

"A totally ill-advised and unrealistic utopian," said another parliamentarian.

"Misinformed," said a news announcer, making a dubious comparison to Brigitte Bardot. The subject is much too complicated for her little bird's brain."

Rarely had the criticisms reached such a pitch. Misogyny had never been expressed with such force.

The government maintained official silence, but its anxiety was clear, given its insistence that certain types of mines are "effective and necessary for our armed services."

Diana was deeply hurt. But the Tory campaign forced the press to focus on Angola.

"The polemics ruined a day's work, but it multiplied the press coverage," she said. So she did not hide her joy over the immediate decision of the new Labor government to join the countries favoring a ban on landmines.

"Its position on the subject was always clear. It's going to do tremendous work. Its predecessor was so hopeless. I hope we manage to persuade the United States to sign the treaty ban in Ottawa this December."

For her, it was a long-range commitment. She didn't play politics but "humanitarianism." She intended to follow up, regardless of the nettles she might have encountered.

"Over the years, I had to learn to ignore criticism. But the irony is that it gave me strength that I was far from thinking I had. That doesn't mean it didn't hurt me. To the contrary. But that gave me the strength I needed to continue along the path I had chosen."

The coverage of the kiss on a yacht did not make her give up her mid-August trip to Bosnia. Diana proved that she would no longer be intimidated, that the paparazzi didn't govern her life, and that she was staying on course.

It all comes down to sincerity, she said - as in the photo in Lahore. You can't do anything good that you don't feel in your heart, she said.

"Nothing gives me greater happiness than trying to help the weakest in this society. It's a goal and, from now on, an essential part of my life. It's a sort of destiny. I will run to anyone who calls to me in distress, wherever it is."
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Old 08-27-2003, 10:53 AM
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Thank you for open the new thread :flower:

Here is the link for the old thread.....
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You´re welcome =) hope you dont mind I created a new thread
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Diana and Dodi inquests announced

Inquests are to be held into the deaths of Diana, Princess of Wales and her lover Dodi Al Fayed in Paris six years ago, it has been announced.

Surrey Coroner Michael Burgess will conduct both inquests, it was confirmed on Friday.

But a Surrey County Council spokesman said it was "premature" to say when the inquests would take place.

Princess Diana, 36, and Mr Al Fayed, 42, were killed in a car crash in Paris in 1997.

The inquests will be the first official public hearings in Britain to examine the circumstances surrounding the Princess's death.

They have been delayed by a lengthy police investigation and other factors.

According to British law, an inquest must happen when a body is returned to Britain following a death abroad.

The inquests will try to establish the facts of their deaths, but will not apportion blame.

A council spokesman said Mr Burgess was conducting the inquest because Mr Fayed was a Surrey resident, not because he is responsible for inquests for the Royal Household.

Conspiracy theory

On the prospect of a date for Diana's inquest, the Mirror newspaper had quoted a Surrey County Council spokesman as saying: "By early next week we should have a date. It is likely to start sooner rather than later.

But on Friday afternoon a council spokesman said: "In time, as the law requires, there will be inquests into the deaths of both the late Dodi Fayed and Diana, Princess of Wales but it is premature to outline any arrangements or suggest any dates or timescale."

A joint inquest is thought to be highly unlikely.

A council spokesman said: "Mr Burgess is responsible for inquests for the Royal Household but there has been no mention of the two being combined at this stage."

A spokesman for Dodi's father, Mohamed Al Fayed, welcomed to the news which they said Mr Al Fayed had been pressing for six years.

The Harrods owner has argued Diana's death was a conspiracy.

The Prince of Wales's office said it would be cooperating fully with the inquest into Dodi's death

Mr Al Fayed's spokesman said: "If it is the coroner's intention to hold a joint inquest with a jury then Mr Al Fayed would welcome that."

It would be the first inquest into a fatal accident involving a member of the Royal Family to be held since 1972, when Prince William of Gloucester was killed in an air crash.

A lengthy investigation into the accident was carried out by a French judge, but the 6,000-page report was never published.
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I wonder if this "inquest" will be another formality like the French investigation which concluded Henri Paul's blood alcohol level was responsible. Funny how the coroner specifically noted NO odor of alcohol which is always noted in the body cavities of someone with a blood alcohol level of 0.17 as measured in Henri Paul's blood samples.

Also the morphology of Henri Paul's liver showed no evidence of a history of heavy drinking.
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The Diana memorial fountain finally breaks ground. The foundation stone was a 1.5 ton piece of granite! and there was a ceremony, but not a single royal attended even though they think laying foundation stones for public places is an important duty. Just watch, to drive the point home all the royals will attend the laying of foundation stones and ribbon cutting ceremony for every new brewery or factory opened in the near future.
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Exclusive By Justine Smith

THE date for an inquest in Britain which could finally solve the mystery of the car crash that killed Princess Diana six years ago will be revealed next week.

Diana, Dodi Fayed and chauffeur Henri Paul died when their Mercedes crashed in Paris on August 31, 1997.

Diana's bodyguard, Trevor Rees Jones, survived but can remember nothing of the tragic accident.

Now, Prince William, 21, and brother Harry may finally find out how, and why, their mother died at the age of 36.

Surrey coroner Michael Burgess, who is also responsible for investigating suspicious royal deaths, will oversee the £1million inquiry.

He is waiting to see if he can conduct a joint inquest on Diana and Dodi, who is buried in Surrey. Either way, he will lead the first official inquiry on British soil into the crash.

Surrey County Council said: "By next week we should have a date. It is likely to start sooner rather than later."

It is not yet known whether Buckingham Palace or the Government will appeal for a secret hearing.

William and Harry are known to be eager for an inquest and Dodi's father, Harrods boss Mohamed al Fayed, has campaigned for a public inquiry, claiming it was no accident. Despite huge interest, the only probe so far has been by a French judge. His report was never published. But he concluded Paul, on a cocktail of drink and prescription drugs, lost control as he speeded.

But the report left dozens of crucial questions unanswered. Paul, said to have been an informer for MI6, reached almost 100 mph in an unlit tunnel beneath the Point D'Alma, pursued by photographers on motorbikes.

The Mercedes swerved, possibly after hitting a white Fiat Uno, and hit a pillar. The Uno was never found.

Key witnesses who will be re-interviewed include those who claimed to have seen a blinding light flashed at Henri Paul by the driver of a powerful motorbike, who was never traced.


WHY did French police fail to protect evidence at the scene? They cleared the road and opened the tunnel hours after the accident.

WHAT caused abnormally high levels of carbon monoxide - 20 per cent - in Henri Paul''s blood even though he died instantaneously?

WHY was Diana allowed to get in the car if Paul really was as drunk as his blood readings showed?

WERE Paul and one unnamed member of the chasing paparazzi employed by MI6, as alleged by ex-spy Richard Tomlinson?

WERE two senior MI6 officers in the British Embassy in Paris at the time?

WHY were the 17 government radar cameras situated between the Ritz and the tunnel switched off and out of film?

WHY were lights turned out in the tunnel minutes before, disabling the cameras?

IF Henri Paul was driving at 80-100mph, why was there no speed camera photo, even though other drivers were fined for speeding with camera technology on the road?

WHERE are the paparazzi photos seized by police at the scene showing a bright dazzling light, according to claims from Mohamed al Fayed?
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