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Old 07-26-2004, 10:05 PM
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Who said anything about him being uninterested in his position of being a royal accountant??? I said he did not write a lot of facts on the Royals in his book because he was not trying to bank on his connections. As for my saying that Elspeth was right, I read what she wrote in a totally different light than how you read it, thats ok. And I have no need to make cases for the POW, I'm not his lawyer and this really isn't that big of an issue, just, to me a rather interesting one.
The book the accountant wrote was his memoirs and he was interviewed about the book by the Telegraoh, it was not something special about the Royals.

Here is a link to an article about the issue at hand by the telegraph.
Diana "took Charles to the Cleaners"

By the way, that was the name of the article.
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Old 07-26-2004, 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by wymanda+Jul 26th, 2004 - 3:35 am--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (wymanda @ Jul 26th, 2004 - 3:35 am)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Elspeth@Jul 26th, 2004 - 3:47 pm
I think the problem was that although Charles gets income from the Duchy of Cornwall, he can&#39;t just sell property at will when he wants or needs a large amount of cash. Diana was wanting a lump sum of quite a few millions rather than (or as well as - I don&#39;t remember which) an annual income, and that&#39;s hard to provide when you can&#39;t sell major assets. It&#39;s not beyond the realms of possibility that Charles had to liquidate most of his investments if he had to come up with nearly £20 million at once.

I&#39;m also a bit concerned about this business of "no Diana bashing." If this is a forum to talk about her and if Diana worship is allowed, then why not criticism too? It does seem that anything other than positive remarks are taken as "bashing," and she did have negative as well as positive qualities. The Frederick and Mary forum has seen its fair share of criticism about Mary; these boards aren&#39;t just for praise.
Thankyou Elspeth&#33; This is exactly the point I was trying to make. [/b][/quote]
I agree
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Old 07-27-2004, 12:52 AM
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She didn&#39;t ask any more than he gave. It was negotiated between their legal representatives.
There were reports at the time that her initial request was over £40 million. Of course a compromise was negotiated between their legal representatives; that&#39;s part of their job.

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That&#39;s not however what the accountant is being quoted most prominently on. Or why some people jumped on what he said to initially create threads on this forum. They seized on the fact that he emphasized that the PoW had somehow been "taken to the cleaners" which is nonsense.
Being taken to the cleaners isn&#39;t necessarily the same as being left impoverished. The accountant said he&#39;d had to liquidate all his investments to put toward the settlement; the accountant felt that was excessive. People might disagree with him, but he&#39;s entitled to his opinion. If he&#39;s being incorrectly quoted, that&#39;s a good reason for people to go and read the original Telegraph report in order to see what he really was saying. A.C.C. has provided a link to it.

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The accountant is indeed inferring he was somehow made destitute, impoverished, ground into penury, etc. afaik.
Where in the Telegraph report does it say that? The accountant said that Charles had to give up his investments in order to pay toward the settlement and to borrow from the Queen for at least some of the balance. He doesn&#39;t say anthing about destitution or penury. He said that the Prince had no personal wealth left. That&#39;s different, because the Prince still had his Duchy assets and income.

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We don&#39;t hear talk about being taken to the cleaners in the present even though that suite of hers at Clarence House must have run into several of the millions of the fourteen plus millions he racked up.
According to reports, he spent about two and a half million pounds on refurbishing the private apartments at Clarence House. What is this 14 million you&#39;re talking about?

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As to his spending level, I don&#39;t note that the PoW cut back in any of his public or private expenses in the intervening years. If his spending level did decrease, I&#39;m sure his overly vocal accountant and friends would have trumpeted that for you long ere since.
I don&#39;t suppose any of us who don&#39;t know him are in a position to know much about his private spending. However, I&#39;ve already mentioned one area where his expenditure would have decreased, which is that he was no longer paying his wife&#39;s expenses.


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How do you know it was authorised by the Prince&#39;s office?
How do you know it wasn&#39;t?
I don&#39;t know one way or the other; I&#39;m not the one making the claim. You seem to think that this is an authorised disclosure, and I&#39;m asking about the basis for that.

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It has more to do in this instance than the mere fact of book sales (I don&#39;t see where the man is selling a book either).
If you read the Telegraph article, it says he&#39;s written a book and was being interviewed by the Telegraph in advance of its publication.

"Mr Bignell was interviewed by the Telegraph last week ahead of the publication of his memoirs, Sundowners at Dawn: a Banker&#39;s Tale - where he makes only a fleeting reference to his crucial role because, he said, he did not want to "cash in" on his royal links."

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Some people have debts to pay back and nests to feather. Jephson was one, Junor was one. There&#39;s an agenda beyond mere book sales figures with some people.
I&#39;m sure there is. However, I wasn&#39;t talking about just the money, I said that this stuff sells. Whatever the reason why Patrick Jephson and Penny Junor wrote their books, whether financial or not, large sales and a lot of publicity are favourable. Most people don&#39;t write books in the hope of not selling many of them.
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Old 07-27-2004, 01:33 PM
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Who said anything about him being uninterested in his position of being a royal accountant??? I said he did not write a lot of facts on the Royals in his book because he was not trying to bank on his connections.
Well then your meaning isn&#39;t clear to me at all and is still seems evasive. You want to have it both ways--as though this article took shape without design or intent from any party, which is certainly not thecase afaic--so I won&#39;t bother trying to reason it with you any further.

P.S. I read the Telegraph article. It hasn&#39;t changed my opinion about any of the aforementioned I&#39;ve posted to either you or Elspeth -- other than to confirm my long-standing opinion of The Telegraph as probably the most consistently biased and virulently anti-Diana daily on the planet bar none. I knew I should have considered the source and who was posting them and why from the onset.
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Old 07-27-2004, 04:23 PM
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None of us can help who did the interview. And, as was said on another thread about Diana and this subject, that whole you can&#39;t criticize Diana but you can criticize Charles thing is old and over. Neither Charles or Diana are special and both can be subject to the amount of criticism we all get.
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:55 PM
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Where in the Telegraph report does it say that? The accountant said that Charles had to give up his investments in order to pay toward the settlement and to borrow from the Queen for at least some of the balance. He doesn&#39;t say anthing about destitution or penury. He said that the Prince had no personal wealth left. That&#39;s different, because the Prince still had his Duchy assets and income.
No, he doesn&#39;t say anything literally about destitution or penury but that might be the inference intended and that was how I for one took it. The problem is you want to have it all ways: on the one hand, his lifestyle has suffered horrendously, on the other it hasn&#39;t at all because he has his Duchy assets. Of COURSE he has his Duchy assets, and that&#39;s why the whole article and its appearance at this time is just a big load of rehashed tripe. Not surprising either, coming from the Telegraph.
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Old 07-28-2004, 12:05 AM
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None of us can help who did the interview. And, as was said on another thread about Diana and this subject, that whole you can&#39;t criticize Diana but you can criticize Charles thing is old and over. Neither Charles or Diana are special and both can be subject to the amount of criticism we all get.
You can choose to believe who you want to believe. Some of us can indeed help who we choose to believe. And as far as criticism of any personage, I really don&#39;t care about what people like you or others who are just as biased have to say, no one has ever prevented you from criticising whomever or whatever you want. There are threads galore that have existed before I ever came on these forums and threads galore since where I totally disagreed with the concensus, and I don&#39;t even bother to retort or put my view on it out there, so I have no idea why you have your silly delusion about not being able to criticise. You do it daily, and to say otherwise is an outright lie.
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Old 07-29-2004, 07:17 PM
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i found out BBC NEWS about Prince Charles who weds to Lady Diana Spencer in 1981

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/s...000/2494949.stm

talking about remind of Prince Charles and late Diana,Princess of Wales&#39;s wedding memories.

Sara Boyce
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:04 PM
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Old 08-05-2004, 04:30 AM
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I read that the Princess Diana Memorial Fountain has been closed to the public after several accidents involving people slipping. It has been closed indefinately.
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Old 08-05-2004, 09:40 AM
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oh no&#33;

i hates to missed the fountains and Althorps&#33; i wanted see the fountains and Althorp life of Princess Diana.

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Old 08-06-2004, 02:00 AM
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i got good news from my excite e-mail that Princess Diana&#39;s brother said Princess Diana&#39;s famous dresses and charity work, etc will moved to Diana&#39;s old home than Althorp if people wanted see Diana&#39;s temple at Althorp and Kensington Palace both no matters&#33;

but its totally excited for people to easy nearly hotel and Queen&#39;s residence than faraway from London i think Diana&#39;s brother wanted people to nearly somewhere in London like it that good news&#33; i cant believe&#33;

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Old 08-06-2004, 02:03 AM
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I wouldn&#39;t believe anything Earl Spencer has to say. The man is an opportunistic boor&#33; He has been very quick to trade on his sister&#39;s fame to make a quick buck and get people to pay to look around the family house. IMO he has no class and no manners. No matter how greif stricken he proported to be at Diana&#39;s funeral he had no right to berate his godmother (the Queen) and her family in public like that&#33;

Thank god he couldn&#39;t keep up his promise and involve himself in William & Harry&#39;s lives. No doubt when William becomes King this cretan will expect to be made Duke of Althorp&#33;
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Old 08-07-2004, 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by sara1981@Aug 5th, 2004 - 1:40 pm
oh no&#33;

i hates to missed the fountains and Althorps&#33; i wanted see the fountains and Althorp life of Princess Diana.

Sara Boyce
Sarah,

Althorp will STAY OPEN. See at www.althorp.com
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Old 08-07-2004, 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by royal_sophietje+Aug 7th, 2004 - 2:24 am--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (royal_sophietje @ Aug 7th, 2004 - 2:24 am)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sara1981@Aug 5th, 2004 - 1:40 pm
oh no&#33;

i hates to missed the fountains and Althorps&#33; i wanted see the fountains and Althorp life of Princess Diana.

Sara Boyce
Sarah,

Althorp will STAY OPEN. See at www.althorp.com [/b][/quote]
OH YEAHHHHHHHHHHH&#33;

i love to going Althorp see Princess Diana&#39;s life&#33; but i got good news from my excite i think Althorp will moves to Diana&#39;s old home because Diana&#39;s brother said not enough people for count because of fountain visiting.

Sara Boyce
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Old 08-26-2004, 09:31 AM
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Lawyer plans London Diana statue

Antidote to 'mess' of Diana fountain, fundraiser says

LONDON, England (CNN) -- A retired London lawyer has joined forces with a leading sculptor to bring a "people's statue" of Diana, Princess of Wales to the center of the British capital.

Former solicitor Jonathan Stone told CNN he was inspired to begin a campaign for the 3.3-meter (10-feet) high bronze monument to the late princess by the design of the controversial Diana Memorial Fountain.

He called the fountain -- beset by problems and closures since its launch last month -- a "luvvies frolic designed by committee" and said he warned 18 months ago it would be clogged by falling leaves and require constant maintenance. (Mud latest problem for fountain)

"Diana would have turned in her grave," Stone, a part-time charity fundraiser, said on Wednesday.

"They have made a real mess of it."

The sculptor casting the statue, Nigel Boonham, unveiled a clay model of the Diana figure, which will take another 12 months to complete, in London this week.

It shows the princess -- the former wife of the heir to the British throne Prince Charles -- in a simple floor-length evening gown -- devoid of jewellery -- and wearing a broad smile.

Stone says he has been offered a site by a firm of London property developers, Galliard Homes.

The statue will be on view on the South Bank of the River Thames next to the old County Hall building near Westminster. Planning consent is expected to be agreed in the next few weeks.

Stone now needs to raise around £200,000 by public subscription. If successful there could be two duplicate bronze statues -- one in New York and one at a location to be decided, he says.

Boonham, vice president of the UK Society of Portrait Sculptures, has created a Diana statue before and the princess sat for him 10 times.

He completed a bust of one of the world's most famous women for London's National Hospital for Neurology in 1991, which the princess unveiled herself.

"She was wonderful -- a really sweet person," Boonham told CNN.

"I wanted to portray Diana doing her charity and patronage work. It really just commemorates her good works -- nobody seems to be doing that. They have forgotten how good she was with AIDS and land mines."

When completed, anyone will be able to get close to the statue by walking up onto a low plinth, even taking the princess by the hand -- a feature of other Boonham statues including the late British leader of the Roman Catholic Church, Cardinal Hume.

Stone said that unlike the £3.6 million ($6.5 million) Diana fountain, the statue would require little maintenance.

Its accessibility will make it a "people's statue," he said, echoing the tribute to Diana as the "people's princess" made by British Prime Minister Tony Blair after her death in a car crash in 1997.

"Diana always had such a natural empathy with people."
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Old 08-26-2004, 11:19 AM
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Princess Diana in Majesty covers (sept.2004)

i found out this morning about Princess Diana got covers its so interest tributes to Princess in Majesty magazine.

http://www,majestymagazine.com/about.php

if you are subcribe or you go to bookstore to buy that magazine of Majesty magazine.

Sara Boyce
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Old 08-26-2004, 03:40 PM
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Here's a new thread for Princess Diana :

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...824#post121824
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Exclamation Book of condolence

You are invited to sign in the international
Book of condolence for Princess Diana

There are more than 800 entries from all over the world yet.
On these pages you can write down your feelings and thoughts in honours of Princess Diana. That can be your mourning, love, thoughts of sorrow, solidarity, poems etc.. Write, what moves you. Write for Princess Diana.

Here is the link:
http://www.condolence.princess-diana.com


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