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Old 05-28-2012, 08:04 PM
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I've been having strong feelings that after the heart problems of the DoE last winter, both the Queen and the DoE have perhaps reached the decision that once the milestone of the Diamond Jubilee has been passed, it is time to slow the pace down a bit and gradually put more and more focus on their main support system in Charles and Camilla and the Wales grandchildren and spouses.

As we have heard, the balcony appearance this upcoming weekend will include only the above mentioned, perhaps HM's honoring William with the Order of the Thistle is another nuance to gradually usher in the era of a downsized royal family in the UK. As Charles gradually takes on more and more of duties he will be required to do as King, William also will be gradually stepping into roles as his father's heir. I guess you could say in a way it'll be a gradual ascension over time.

In this way also, with HM and the DoE taking it easier, the better chances I think we'll have of seeing a Platinum Jubilee in 10 years time too.
Excellent points . I think the heart scare from this past December really solidified the fact that the most senior members of the Windsor Family (Her Majesty and Prince Philip) will want to have a pace that's a bit slower and perhaps more relaxed. I don't see them stopping completely, since it's not in the nature of either. However, I won't be at all surprised if after this summer, The Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall will do some of the engagements that in previous years were done by his mother. We already see that in the fact that Charles does more and more investitures at Buckingham Palace, and so on. It's sad to say, but it's only natural that the duties get shifted and are given to the younger members. They're after all the future of the monarchy, and the small group on the balcony is a very significant step in that direction. Like you, I hope that we'll be lucky enough to see Her Majesty mark her Platinum Jubilee. It'll an occasion that will definitely trump this one, since (to my knowledge anyway) no monarch in the history of Great Britain has ever made it to that milestone.

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Congratulations to the newest Knight of the Order of the Thistle, another indication of the trust and confidence that HM has in her grandson.
Hear hear! I'm in complete agreement with you.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:18 PM
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I think it's also a signal that William will become an increasingly more active part of the 'Firm'. I think the days of squirrelling away in Anglesey are numbered.

Anne has an affinity with Scotland. She always supports the Scotland rugby team, even when they're playing England. She's patron of Scotland Rugby, the game's governing body in Scotland. Peter played for the Scotland Under 18 rugby team when he was at school at Gordonstoun. Zara also chose to get married in Edinburgh.

I think Scottish people find Anne a down to earth, unfussy sort of person, which is what Scots like to think they're like too.
I completely agree....also Anne's 2nd wedding was in Scotland, and IIRC didn't she recently take over for the DOE as chancellor of st Andrews or unv of Edinburgh?

I wonder if Edward will be awarded the KT after he succeeds as DOE?
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I completely agree....also Anne's 2nd wedding was in Scotland, and IIRC didn't she recently take over for the DOE as chancellor of st Andrews or unv of Edinburgh?

I wonder if Edward will be awarded the KT after he succeeds as DOE?
University of Edinburgh has Princess Anne as its chancellor.

Whilst I don't mind HM giving William the Order, it's probably more to do with the fact he'll one day be King rather than he's done anything substantial.

Queen to make Prince William Knight of the Thistle to mark his 30th birthday | Mail Online
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Whilst I don't mind HM giving William the Order, it's probably more to do with the fact he'll one day be King rather than he's done anything substantial.
I think it has to do with the basic idea of chivalry and knighthood: (from wikipedia) :

Becoming a knight was not a widely attainable goal in the medieval era. Sons of knights were eligible for the ranks of knighthood. While other young men could become knights, in theory, it was nearly impossible for them to achieve that goal, especially for those from the lowest class. Those who were destined to become knights were singled out: in boyhood, these future warriors were sent off to a castle as pages, later becoming squires. Commonly around the age of 20, knights would be admitted to their rank in a ceremony called either "dubbing" (from the French adoubement), or the "Accolade". Although these strong young men had proved their eligibility, their social status would be permanently controlled. They were expected to obey the code of chivalry at all times, and no failure was accepted.
Chivalry and religion were mutually influenced. The early Crusades helped to clarify the moral code of chivalry as it related to religion. As a result, Christian armies began to devote their efforts to sacred purposes. As time passed, clergy instituted religious vows which required knights to use their weapons chiefly for the protection of the weak and defenceless, especially women and orphans, and of churches.

The Code of Chivalry continued to influence social behaviour long after the actual knighthood ceased to exist, influencing for example 19th century Victorian perceptions of how a "gentleman" ought to behave up to today. (End of quote)

In the late medieval times and the renaissance, monarchs took the idea of the chivalric order of the Crusades and created their own orders to build strong bonds with their best subjects in order to secure their power. This evolved into orders whose membership was to highlight extraordinary service to the monarch. But in any case the successor of the monarch as the future "fount of honour" was raised according to the old medieval ideas of chivalry (see above) and as soon as he came of age became a knight.

As people tend to live longer nowadays and spend more time in education before they settle down the appropriate age to introduce the future Found of Honour into the order went up in some cases while in others it is recognized at the baptism that a member of the Royal family should be a member of the order (see Estelle of Sweden, who was just awared the order of the Seraphim but will have to wait till she comes of age to actually participate in the order).
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Thanks for the article, Ghost, and the reminder that the Katie Couric interview with the Princes is on ABC tonight from 9 - 11 p.m EST. That must be the saddest day of your life when a beloved person who has passed away can't be there for the momentous times.
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oh god, I cant stop to cry. all the diana fans in the world (I am diana's fan with all my heart) miss her that day.
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Wow! This is big new I guess. Good for William.
Anyone knows how the ceremony goes?
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Wow! This is big new I guess. Good for William.
Anyone knows how the ceremony goes?
The installation ceremony is quite elaborate but private, so we will not be getting any picture.

The Queen installs the newly appointed members in a private ceremony at the beginning of the Service of the Thistle. When the Queen and Prince Philip arrive, the Chancellor of the Thistle, the Dean of the Thistle and the Secretary of the Thistle lead them to the Signet Library, where Knights and Ladies of the Order have already gathered. Her Majesty then installs new Knights and/or Ladies, and then the procession consisting of the entire party proceeds to Chapel of the Order of the Thistle of St. Giles' Cathedral, where other parts of the Service take place.
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How sad. I love this picture of William- he looks very much like the young Paul Newman.
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I always thought this grant of the Order of the Thistle, while a sign of approval, is a 30th birthday present, much like Charles got promoted for his birthday gift. It allows HM to acknowledge William, but I don't think it necessarily gives the appearance of slowing down.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:33 AM
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I read the article in the DM that talked about this. Very moving, and sad. While watching the wedding, I thought about the fact that the person in his life that had such an impact on him wasn't there to see him marry the love of his life. It was a very bitter-sweet moment for him, I'm sure. Thank you for sharing this article.

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Thanks for the article, Ghost, and the reminder that the Katie Couric interview with the Princes is on ABC tonight from 9 - 11 p.m EST. That must be the saddest day of your life when a beloved person who has passed away can't be there for the momentous times.
I couldn't agree more. You said it beautifully.

I don't know if this article has been posted or not. I'm glad that William and Catherine want to have little ones soon. They'll be wonderful parents.

Prince William interview with Katie Couric: 'Kate and I are keen to start a family' | Mail Online
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I literally squealed loud as I could when he said that during the interview tonight^
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Im still watching it. Loving it. :)

O.k. Its over and basically William is not saying a thing about baby plans. He loves his granny very much as does Harry. What a wonderful program.
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i didnt get a chance to watch this last night, i hope they put it on the networks internet so i can watch it.
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I wonder how much longer we have to wait once the Jubilee is safely over. Catherine does not look pregnant yet but things like that can change over night... Wish them both so much luck!
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