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Old 01-21-2012, 09:10 AM
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Few galas, concert, premiere, Christmas, NY's break and now vacations. I never consider Kate as a hard-working woman but now she's part of RF and should show that she really deserved for this. I was hoping that she will start work with her patronages but I was wrong. I'm disappointed with her.
I'm not in the least disappointed. I don't see working for The Firm as being constantly in the public eye though. What made her deserving of being a member of the Royal Family was one thing.... William loved her and asked her to be his wife. She is his consort and that's her main responsibility I think right now. She will grow into her royal responsibilities as the Firm sees fit. What aspect I do think will be so wonderful is that with the DoE slowing down on his engagements, perhaps tagging along with HM on some engagements is going to be learning the ropes hands on from the most professional, most dedicated monarch on the planet. Will be a delight to witness I'm sure.
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Few galas, concert, premiere, Christmas, NY's break and now vacations. I never consider Kate as a hard-working woman but now she's part of RF and should show that she really deserved for this. I was hoping that she will start work with her patronages but I was wrong. I'm disappointed with her.
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I'm not in the least disappointed. I don't see working for The Firm as being constantly in the public eye though. What made her deserving of being a member of the Royal Family was one thing.... William loved her and asked her to be his wife. She is his consort and that's her main responsibility I think right now. She will grow into her royal responsibilities as the Firm sees fit. What aspect I do think will be so wonderful is that with the DoE slowing down on his engagements, perhaps tagging along with HM on some engagements is going to be learning the ropes hands on from the most professional, most dedicated monarch on the planet. Will be a delight to witness I'm sure.
I agree with Osipi. Just because we don't see her 24/7 doesn't mean she's sitting around watching TV and eating bon bons. As we all know Diana complained that she was thrown into royal duty and did not know or understand what she was supposed to do. The Firm does not want the same thing to happen to Catherine. If Clarence House says it's giving Kate princess lessons (or something to that affect), who are we to disagree and presume something else. Course, people will always want to believe what they want to believe.
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:02 PM
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I agree with Osipi. Just because we don't see her 24/7 doesn't mean she's sitting around watching TV and eating bon bons. As we all know Diana complained that she was thrown into royal duty and did not know or understand what she was supposed to do. The Firm does not want the same thing to happen to Catherine. If Clarence House says it's giving Kate princess lessons (or something to that affect), who are we to disagree and presume something else. Course, people will always want to believe what they want to believe.
From what we saw she had enough free time to shop, have hair done and walking with William and puppy through Welsh beaches. I don't expect that she'll work as hard as other CP but she should work more. Vacations after work not before.
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:10 PM
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I can see how you might be a bit disappointed that Catherine isn't doing more public engagements (although as previously explained by Clarence House she is not going to be a full time toyal for some time) but criticizing her for walking on the beach as opposed to doing royal duties, that's a bit of stretch isnt' it?
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:06 PM
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From what we saw she had enough free time to shop, have hair done and walking with William and puppy through Welsh beaches. I don't expect that she'll work as hard as other CP but she should work more. Vacations after work not before.
Do you work 24 hours a day 7 days a week? I don't. I take walks on the beach, shop, and do lots of other things when I'm not working. Royals should be afforded the same curtesy.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:32 PM
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From what we saw she had enough free time to shop, have hair done and walking with William and puppy through Welsh beaches. I don't expect that she'll work as hard as other CP but she should work more. Vacations after work not before.
Kate though is not a CP. She's consort to the heir of the heir.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:42 PM
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And once again the DM has managed to stir the sh*t and bring out all the resentment and jealous people. Do these people KNOW how many other wealthy people take winter vacations to the Carribbean? It seems that they think it is just the royals, who of OF COURSE THEY ARE PAYING FOR. The Middletons have their own money and the trolls don't like that either.

There are many hours in Catherine's day that are not photographed by the paps. The DM likes to constrict Catherine's whole days to the times she is either shopping or going to the hair dresser. Maybe they would do well to poll their female employess and find out how much time THEY spend doing the very same things. When she is fulfilling part of her roll such as attending premieres in lovely dresses they resent that as well.

As to Catherine and Williams strolling the beach in Wales .... please, I guess no young couple should do that in the first year of their marriage ... or ever for that matter. It boggles the mind how resentful and mean people can be.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:47 PM
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I think it's difficult to take pictures of Catherine researching charities or taking princess lessons. When she does public things (like go on vacation or go shopping) that's what they have pictures of. I think we shouldn't jump to conclusions just yet and give her some more time. It's only the 21st of January. There is a lot of opportunity in the future for her to "prove" herself. Hopefully while William is gone she'll take on more engagements. But again we have to remember that even William is not a full-time royal, she's new to this game, and she's married to the heir of the heir.
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:38 PM
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I'm not in the least disappointed. I don't see working for The Firm as being constantly in the public eye though. What made her deserving of being a member of the Royal Family was one thing.... William loved her and asked her to be his wife. She is his consort and that's her main responsibility I think right now. She will grow into her royal responsibilities as the Firm sees fit. What aspect I do think will be so wonderful is that with the DoE slowing down on his engagements, perhaps tagging along with HM on some engagements is going to be learning the ropes hands on from the most professional, most dedicated monarch on the planet. Will be a delight to witness I'm sure.
Well said . I don't think people realize that a royal works behind the scenes as well as in the public eye. We don't know how much time she spends learning about her role (and that's working in my opinion), or getting acquainted with her charities, or doing whatever paperwork that needs to be done for the said charities. It's not fair to judge someone based on what a tabloid paper chooses to print. Yes, we saw her at a movie premiere, a concert and Christmas celebrations in the last month, but before that we saw her on a tour, a hospital visit, and at a solo engagement that was sprung on her last minute as a favor to her father-in-law. I think for someone who is a new member of the RF as well as a wife to a heir presumptive, she's doing fine. She'll take on more as the years go by, and as was mentioned with Prince Philip taking a bit of a back seat due to health, Catherine will probably be seen a bit more doing 'work'. I wish people would just ease up. It's not as if she's frequenting brothels and doing drugs.
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:43 PM
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I'm the first one to say that the Cambridges should be working, but I have nothing against Catherine going on a family holiday to celebrate her birthday. From what I've read William is joining her this weekend for a 'romantic' weekend before he flies off the the Falklands.
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I'm the first one to say that the Cambridges should be working, but I have nothing against Catherine going on a family holiday to celebrate her birthday. From what I've read William is joining her this weekend for a 'romantic' weekend before he flies off the the Falklands.
You're right about that. Here's a little about it from 'PEOPLE' magazine. It's nice that Catherine has an opportunity to do something like this. I'm sure as she takes on more and more royal engagements and duties, trips like this will be few and far between.

Duke to Join Duchess of Cambridge in Caribbean : People.com
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:15 PM
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I say to let them do this while they can; the Middletons usually take a vacation this time of year since most likely their business is bustling during the holiday season and this is a good time for them to get away. Kate has always joined them and William is, too, before he's deployed. This might be the last time they'll be able to do so for a long time with all the responsibilities, duties and possibly a family coming up so I'm willing to cut her some slack.
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Do you work 24 hours a day 7 days a week? I don't. I take walks on the beach, shop, and do lots of other things when I'm not working. Royals should be afforded the same curtesy.
If Kate WAS working (and I dont count any movie premiers as "work") I wouldnt have a problem with shopping etc but she actually does little else in the public eye.

To say that she works loads behind the scenes is as much speculation as to say that she doesnt.
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It almost seems as if some people are obsessed with work. I agree with the Barones of Books. I also think we have far over-emphasized work to many of our young people - with today's life expectancies, they've got plenty of time to work when they're older.

I am not a socialist. I believe it's fine for people to inherit things from their parents, and though things are inequitable, I prefer that to having inheritance banned. Kate isn't getting a single penny directly from the British taxpayers for any of her day to day activities (unless she is on official business). Presumably, her family can provide for a vacation - so the disappointment expressed here really grates on me. The Middletons can provide nice vacations for their kids - so what?

If, 50 years from now, Kate is still disappointing people, so be it - but to prejudge someone when their life is just starting for doing something with their family, well, it just sounds like sour grapes.

It's not the DM that bugs me so much as the judgmental attitudes of people, including people here.

At university, I often had to stay behind at Christmas (with one or two other people in a huge house) because my parents couldn't afford my airfare. Other students jetted off for family vacations in the Caribbean or Hawaii. I was happy for people who got to go off to Hawaii, even though I really wanted to go myself. I was brought up that this was the right and charitable thing to do - to be happy for others' good fortune.

I still can't afford to jet all over the world, and I work two jobs to afford the lifestyle I have - that still doesn't make me criticize people whose circumstances are different. But I guess some people's interest in royals comes from a desire to inspect and criticize how the "others" live. I suppose I can try and understand that position better.
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If Kate WAS working (and I dont count any movie premiers as "work") I wouldnt have a problem with shopping etc but she actually does little else in the public eye.

To say that she works loads behind the scenes is as much speculation as to say that she doesnt.
Maybe YOU don't consider it "work", however it IS part of the work of the members of the royal family. It would be nice if we all could attend such functions but then, it would be of no import if we did. It IS working for the royal family and in support of a charity. Traveling over the world may seem like "fun" to some people but it is part of the work of the family and to judge them as not working simply because YOU think it would be fun is not logical. Unless of course you are anti royalist and think that none of these appearances or support for charities is "useful" or work on their part.
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I say to let them do this while they can; the Middletons usually take a vacation this time of year since most likely their business is bustling during the holiday season and this is a good time for them to get away. Kate has always joined them and William is, too, before he's deployed. This might be the last time they'll be able to do so for a long time with all the responsibilities, duties and possibly a family coming up so I'm willing to cut her some slack.
Well said. She is joining her family for a nice vacation. It is her 30th birthday and her moms bday as well. I'm glad she is having some down time with her family...and more pleased that William is joining them as well. It's nice that they are integrating both families into their calendar.
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I consider public events of all kinds to be work, and where I work, they want us to do them "for free." It's a big PITA. Similarly, while I do attend public events for charity (and donate services), the event part is definitely more work than the service part.

Traveling (which I have to do in order to keep my skills current for work, because I believe I should, not because I have to) is not always fun either - at least until you get where you are going. To me, that's work too. It's easy to be an armchair analyst of how fun or hard some activity is for someone else though.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, though, of course. What I admire about both Kate and William is, regardless of how they may really be feeling about an event, they always look happy and warmly engaged in public. I don't think that's easy and since their engagements are set well in advance, it's even more difficult. Many people stay home from events if their mood isn't quite right - but if it's your responsibility to be there, you put on a happy face.
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From what we saw she had enough free time to shop, have hair done and walking with William and puppy through Welsh beaches. I don't expect that she'll work as hard as other CP but she should work more. Vacations after work not before.
What do you consider work? What is Catherine doing when not in the public eye? You must have insider information to be so sure about her lack of "work". Let's remember that a 9 - 5 place to go to for "work" is a lower and middle class behaviour. There are other segments of society that have "work" that entail very different activities than clocking in somewhere. The Queen seem to run a tight ship so I would not worry about Catherine sitting around being lazy. And even if she was...so what!
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I don't post often, but I have been reading here for a while. I am sure I am not as knowledgeable about the RF as some of you are here, but I think the Queen has all of this under control!! I read some of you saying how Catherine doesn't work, and maybe to you it doesn't look like work, but I am sure the RF has a plan for her.. I think some of you just like to gripe about her just because you don't like her. Give the girl a break, she hasn't even been married a year, I am sure in time she will live up to YOUR expectations!
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