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Old 09-17-2009, 03:42 AM
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thought the same thing, through their position in society they will receive attention.

I remember an interview with Sarah and Ruby Wax and Sarah said loud and clear "Please do not film my children, they will take them away" . In other words she did have custody but was not allowed to involve them in stuff like that while they were children. I do not know how the matter is now that the girls are more or less adult.
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I must disagree.

Sarah carried them and gave birth to them.

They are first and foremost her daughters.

They are also the Queen's granddaughters but they are her daughters first and foremost and the Queen's granddaughters second.
I am afraid you are competely wrong. Firstly they are the Queen´s granddaughters and secondly they are Sarah´s daughters. Sad for Sarah but true. If Sarah took her daughter to Turkey thus embarassing the British Government and didn´t ask for the Queen´s permission then it was very wrong of her, I suspect that the Queen did indeed think it was a holiday.
Sarah, unfortunately has been a constant embarassment to the royal family, mainly because she does most things without thinking them out first.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:05 AM
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I am afraid you are competely wrong. Firstly they are the Queen´s granddaughters and secondly they are Sarah´s daughters. Sad for Sarah but true. If Sarah took her daughter to Turkey thus embarassing the British Government and didn´t ask for the Queen´s permission then it was very wrong of her, I suspect that the Queen did indeed think it was a holiday.
Sarah, unfortunately has been a constant embarassment to the royal family, mainly because she does most things without thinking them out first.

First they are Sarah's daughters, secondly they are Andrew's daughters and then they are the Queen's granddaughters. This is clear in the way that Sarah and Andrew have been the ones guiding the girls, speak for them, the way the girls speak about them. I remember Anne saying that her children were normal with the Queen for a grandmother which tells a lot about the attitude of the royal family - parents are first and foremost in the lives and having the Queen as a grandmother comes after that.

If the Queen really felt like it she could stop the girls leaving the country with their mother but she hasn't done so as she respects Sarah's role in the girls' lives.

To many of you the Queen should be the dominant force in the royal family's lives whereas if you truly watch them they are a normal family in that parents are first and foremost and relationship to the Queen secondary, and as it should be.

They are the Queen's granddaughters and will eventually be the nieces and then cousins of the monarch but they will always be Sarah's daughters and so as they drop away from their position in relation to the throne Sarah will still be a major force in their lives.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:35 AM
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--- edited - They are the Queen's granddaughters and will eventually be the nieces and then cousins of the monarch but they will always be Sarah's daughters and so as they drop away from their position in relation to the throne Sarah will still be a major force in their lives.
Once again we disagree, as members of the royal family, that commitment takes precedence over who birthed them. Using the Princess title makes them first and foremost grandchildren of the monarch and their mother should remember that when involving them in her antics to show how caring she is.
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skydragon do you have reason to question her sincereness?

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Once again we disagree, as members of the royal family, that commitment takes precedence over who birthed them. Using the Princess title makes them first and foremost grandchildren of the monarch and their mother should remember that when involving them in her antics to show how caring she is.
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skydragon do you have reason to question her sincereness?
Had she encouraged a reporter to go to Turkey to report on the alleged abuses and allowed him/her to say afterward that Sarah had suggested it, or backed an appeal to open a centre in Wythenshaw and allowed the relavent people to say 'Good old Sarah we couldn't have done it without her backing', I would believe it was for altruistic reasons. But when Sarah is the star attraction, then yes I do question the sincerity of her actions. I hope it was done for publicity otherwise I would have to conclude she is not very intelligent.
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Of course Sarah's presence in the documentary added publicity, much more so than if the reporter had just mentioned her name in passing. That is how Sarah uses her royal title--to give publicity to causes she thinks are important.

Does anyone really think the Turkey documentary would have attracted this much press attention if "Sarah, Duchess of York" hadn't been involved?
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The publicity was mostly regarding whether she should have been involved, whether she should have involved the Queens grandchildren and now whether she broke the law! The documentary regarding the Romanian children certainly got huge amounts of directed publicity in the UK, without any help from Sarah.

Sarah does not have a royal title.
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Now that we have heard how Sarah used her ex royal title to give publicity to causes she thinks are important can anyone tell me what has actually happened in Turkey besides causing a complaint to be made to the British authorities?
Weight watchers was obviously very important to her as with the money from this she managed to pay off her debts, which I admit is a very good thing.
She may have a good heart but most of what she has done has helped her bank account get back on keel and hasn´t really made her very popular, at least in Britain.
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Anytime a documentary is made that contains controversial matter is going to set off a fire storm. Turkey has been trying to become a member of the EU and they are especially touchy about any topics concerning that country. I cannot believe that Sarah did not know she would be stepping into a legal quagmire when she went ahead. She should not have put herself into the position let alone Eugenie. Leave it to qualified journalists.
Yet again Sarah has tried to do something worthy, but has had the project appearing to be all about her and having everything blow up in her face. Yet again it will not be her fault, according to her.
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Sarah looks amazing!
She is shining, the dress is wonderful, deep blue, shows her blue eyes!
Well done!
Thank you very much for the photos, Iceflower!
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The Duchess of York has a compassionate personality and a beaming smile.
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The Duchess of York has a compassionate personality and a beaming smile.
I agree with your opinion of her beaming smile, but I can´t see how from her face you can see she is compassionate.
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I agree with your opinion of her beaming smile, but I can´t see how from her face you can see she is compassionate.
I didn't mean to imply that I can see she's compassionate from her face but I do think she is.
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Sorry, I didn´t mean to nitpick. I believe she is well meaning it is just that nearly everytime she does something it seems to backfire on her and underneath I think the reason for this is that, as I have said before, she just doesn´t think things through, and somehow I don´t think she ever will.
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I would almost feel sorry for her......

but since the day she was pictured having her toes sucked by some texan millionaire sitting next to a pool in the South of France , while being married to Andrew, yes she does not think and I suddenly realize, there was a lack of intergrity there too.

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That was definitely an occasion she didn´t think things through.....
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That was definitely an occasion she didn´t think things through.....
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Sarah looks amazing!
She is shining, the dress is wonderful, deep blue, shows her blue eyes!
Well done!
Thank you very much for the photos, Iceflower!
I love the colour of Sarah's dress. It looks great on her. I don't mind Sarah in black, but she should wear black less often and blue more, IMO.
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