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I'm sure the Sarah, Duchess of York Charities and Patronages thread will help you out.
Thank you very much for the link, much appreciated, impressive list. But it still hard to know when she's promoting her business or a charity. Made more confusing when 'percentages' are mentioned.
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The percentages may relate to licencing fees. These are standard when a company uses another person's image or whatever in a product. The trustees of the Princess Diana Memorial Fund came a cropper when they tried to get a licencing fee for the use of Diana's image from a US doll company. On the other hand the trustees of the estate of Elvis Presley jealously guard the unauthorised use of his image and any approved use would involve a licencing fee.
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My only issue with Sarah is the way she keeps bringing up her ex-husband and his family in conversation. She does wonderful charitable work, and I certainly don't disapprove of the woman trying to make a living.

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My take is, as of others posted above, that as long as there is a demand for her and there are checks being written for her appearances and products she will continue advertising herself. I have to admit that I admire her for at least working at it. I doubt the next generation will know how to navigate the stormy waters and earn a paycheck.
Her charitable projects are also impressive. So if she can go on why not?
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Once you have children with someone, Royal or not, they remain your family, divorce or not. QEII and the Duke of E remain the grandparents of her children, regardless of the divorce.
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My only issue with Sarah is the way she keeps bringing up her ex-husband and his family in conversation. She does wonderful charitable work, and I certainly don't disapprove of the woman trying to make a living.

That is her gravy train and she will not jump off of it any time soon. In case people forgot who she is, she needs to drop names to keep herself front and center.
These days, every magazine I open I see royals with Bono and others. The lines have been blurrier and blurrier. Socialites, royalty, actors, singers, politicans....... one big happy family...........
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Yup, Royal Families are lumped in with celebrities now. In so many publications, it's all about their love lives and their clothes. Nothing about their responsibilities and the work they do for others. I find it really, really annoying.

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These days, every magazine I open I see royals with Bono and others. The lines have been blurrier and blurrier. Socialites, royalty, actors, singers, politicans....... one big happy family...........
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Yes, but most divorced people don't keep talking about their ex-inlaws. Then again, most people aren't ex-royals, I suppose.

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here's something i just wanted to put out there: could it be that the reason she keeps bringing up her inlaws is because that's what people want to know about? "are you and andrew back together?" "will you and andrew ever remarry?" "what is your relationship like with the queen now?" "why weren't you invited to this royal event?" "what about your daughters?" i like sarah well enough and think her charitable work is wonderful however i think that without that royal link, the public could care less what she's doing. and the charities want her for the very fact that she has royal connections...if you can't get a real princess then get the next best thing.
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here's something i just wanted to put out there: could it be that the reason she keeps bringing up her inlaws is because that's what people want to know about? "are you and andrew back together?" "will you and andrew ever remarry?" "what is your relationship like with the queen now?" "why weren't you invited to this royal event?" "what about your daughters?" i like sarah well enough and think her charitable work is wonderful however i think that without that royal link, the public could care less what she's doing. and the charities want her for the very fact that she has royal connections...if you can't get a real princess then get the next best thing.
I think that Duchess brings up a very valid point--just look at this board--there is always the discussion brewing somewhere about whether or not Sarah and Andrew will ever reunite. Whether she likes it or not, her identity is wrapped around her former marriage, her title, and her HRH daughters. And, had it not been for those three things, she wouldn't have found success as she did. Now she's using it to promote the orphanages and healthy lifestyles. I know in the past I've been highly critical of Sarah, but her bringing awaresss of the state of these orphanages has really made me respect her much more than I did. However, her clothing choices are still up for discussion......
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If Sarah didn´t talk about her royal connections no one would know who she was and she would sink into oblivion in a very short time. It is her gravy train and although bringing things to public awareness is good, it is not as good as actually doing something. Doing what she does certainly keeps her in the public awareness category. Warren this is not being catty, this is just saying what I think, she was mentioned in a book that I read recently "The Queen & Di" as someone who loved being in the limelight and having a free lunch. Taking up these charities she manages all this and probably gets paid as well.
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I read the Queen and Di as well. The Sarah discussed in that book was mostly a twenty years ago Sarah and was only mentioned in passing.

If anyone has ever taken the time to listen to any of Sarah's interviews, you would notice that if Sarah talks about the royals at all, it is usually briefly and with the greatest respect.
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Of course she does, she was brought up near them and has respect for them, that has nothing to do with making a living off her connection to them. She would be plain old Miss Ferguson if she hadn´t had have been married to Andrew and no money could be made from that unless she did some actual physical work or had a university degree or other. Before she married Andrew she lived with Paddy (something) and she is still friends with him, in fact spends holidays or spent holidays at his house so she is a person who must be very agreeable company and people tend to stay in touch with her I am sure she is very nice, but she nearly brought the BRF down by her shennanigans and I blame her for influencing Princess Di as well. She comes over as an extremely nice person but that doesn´t make me think she is wonderful because she seems to be travelling all over the world shouting charity.
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What to your mind would be an acceptable way for her to earn her living in a way that wasnt 'making a living off her connections' and in a way that was not embarrassing to her family (including the Royals)?
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Interesting question, scooter. I am looking forward to the up coming posts!
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Life is about connections. That is what we all have - and we all have connections that are good for us and some that we would rather forget. Her connections are royal - she was around royals before she married Andrew. It would look very strange for her to pretend that she has no connection to the royal family.
Her life is just different from most of us - hence her family and life style has no correspondence to our lives in most peoples mind. However, that does not make it wrong or unacceptable.
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I think duchess' last post sums everything up very well. As far as her earning a living, I wonder if it was ever considered by the RF that if they gave her a bigger settlement, Sarah wouldn't have done some of the things she's done to earn money, and could have focused more on her charity work. I know Sarah herself has said that she refused a bigger settlement to maintain a good relationship with the RF, but I have a hard time not taking that with a grain of salt.
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Of course she does, she was brought up near them and has respect for them, that has nothing to do with making a living off her connection to them. She would be plain old Miss Ferguson if she hadn´t had have been married to Andrew and no money could be made from that unless she did some actual physical work or had a university degree or other. Before she married Andrew she lived with Paddy (something) and she is still friends with him, in fact spends holidays or spent holidays at his house so she is a person who must be very agreeable company and people tend to stay in touch with her I am sure she is very nice, but she nearly brought the BRF down by her shennanigans and I blame her for influencing Princess Di as well. She comes over as an extremely nice person but that doesn´t make me think she is wonderful because she seems to be travelling all over the world shouting charity.
It took more than Sarah to bring down the royal family. About that time, Princess Anne and Mark Philips divorced in a rather tawdry situation with Philips fathering a child out of wedlock and some of Anne's love letters to Timothy Laurence leaked to the press. Diana had collaborated with the Morton book and her state visit to Korea with Charles was viewed as a disaster. Later they separated.

I actually think that if there had been no problems between Charles and Diana and Anne and Mark Philips, Sarah would have been an embarassment but things would have blown over. Andrew seems very forgiving.

It was a combination oif things that brought down the respect for the Royal Family, not just Sarah.
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