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Old 09-23-2012, 08:19 PM
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I admire the Duke of Edinburgh's commitment to his role in supporting the Queen and serving the people and there's no doubt he will continue to work hard as much as he can but I think it would do him some good to at least pass some of his official duties down to his grandsons. He's already passed part of his duties down to Prince Edward and Princess Anne but he still have a heavy amount of patronages, presidencies and organizations he's involved with.

He's going to continue to work hard and I think that's fine-if he's up to it-but Prince Philip is now 91 and I think it's time that he really take some of his workload and pass it to the younger generation. Although when he passes, the royals will sit down and decide what role of his they will take on.
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Old 09-23-2012, 08:29 PM
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I am so happy they are back to public work this week. I have missed them, though I doubt they have missed me. :)
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Old 09-23-2012, 08:45 PM
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I am so happy they are back to public work this week. I have missed them, though I doubt they have missed me. :)
I agree. It's always good to see Her Majesty & Duke of Edinburgh. I too miss them when they are on break. I like watching their videos on ITN Source News.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:53 PM
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LONDON 2012 OLYMPIC GAMES: Queen hosts reception f | Archive Footage | ITN Source

Don't know if you all had seen this video. The Queen has hosted a reception in Buckingham Palace for heads of state ahead the Olympic Games opening ceremony.
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Queen Elizabeth accompanied by the Duke of Edinburgh opened the new library at the University of Aberdeen and visited Marischal College in Aberdeen today, September 24, 2012.



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** BBC: Queen opens new library at Aberdeen University **


** local.stv.tv: Exciting and fabulous': Queen opens University of Aberdeen's £57m library **
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:35 PM
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HM is an inspiration.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:40 PM
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I am thrilled the Queen purchased the Warhols for the collection. I know not everyone loves Andy W, but the images are icons. Look at larger versions of them - Her Majesty is transcendentally pretty in them. Love it.

The Queen's Andy Warhol print is actually a conservative choice - Telegraph
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:22 PM
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HM is an inspiration.
Absolutely. I've yet to meet anyone with her level of dedication to his/her job.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:38 AM
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'Get that man out of one's land': Queen PERSONALLY intervened in case of hate preacher Abu Hamza because 'her country and its subjects were being denigrated'
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The Queen directly intervened in the case of radical cleric Abu Hamza and asked the Home Secretary why he had not been arrested for his campaign of hate and violence in Britain. She was so 'upset' by the content of his hate sermons, she contacted the Home Secretary to ask 'why is he he still at large?' The Monarch's intervention was revealed today as the hook-handed criminal lost his final appeal against extradition to the United States. According to the BBC's veteran security correspondent Frank Gardiner, the Queen 'was upset that her country and its subjects were being denigrated by this man who was using this country as a platform for his very violent, hateful views’.
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The Queen was pretty upset that there was no way to arrest him. She couldn’t understand - there was surely some law he had broken. Well in the end, sure enough, she was right. He was eventually convicted and jailed for seven years for soliciting murder and racial hatred. She spoke to the Home Secretary at the time and said my goodness, why is he still at large? He was conducting these radical activities and he called Britain a toilet, he was incredibly anti-British and yet he was sucking up money from this country for a long time and was a huge embarrassment to Muslims - who condemned him.'
Nice one, Your Majesty!
If a person chooses to live in a country, he takes the responsibility to respect that country, its laws, traditions and people. If he breaks that unwritten contract, if he tries to hurt that country or urges others to do that, then thanks for the stay and bye-bye.

Quite amazing though it took an elderly woman who has always tried to stay out of politics to ask a very simple question: why is he he still at large?
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:47 AM
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There's no link in your post Artemisia so here you go; Queen personally intervened in the case of hate preacher Abu Hamza | Mail Online

EIIR has just brought it up in the Powers and Prerogatives thread so we might want to shift over there.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:55 AM
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Thanks for noticing, just added the relevant link.
Not sure how much of a prerogative the Queen exercised, but she certainly did what politicians (everywhere) fail to do: ask the most obvious and important questions.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:18 AM
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IF she did. I think the whole prerogative thing comes under the fact that this is a political matter, between countries, and the Queen is apolitical. IF she got involved, she shouldn't have.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:26 AM
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I have to disagree with you. If the incident did happen (and I don't see why or how would Gardiner invent it), the Queen had every right to express her opinion on this issue. She did not interfere into politics - she expressed her legitimate concern for the well-being of her people and the fact the laws of her country (laws that are passed and executed in her name) appeared not to work in case of a man who openly preached hatred towards Britain.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:27 AM
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IF she did. I think the whole prerogative thing comes under the fact that this is a political matter, between countries, and the Queen is apolitical. IF she got involved, she shouldn't have.
My understanding is HM is not allowed to make her views public, but in this instance it was a private conversation with the Home Secretary, in which case HM is allowed to make her views known ( Correct me if I'm wrong) It was the BBC who made all of this public.
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My understanding is HM is not allowed to make her views public, but in this instance it was a private conversation with the Home Secretary, in which case HM is allowed to make her views known ( Correct me if I'm wrong) It was the BBC who made all of this public.
You are correct, it was BBC defence correspondent Frank Gardner who released the information and he has apologised and the BBC has sent a letter to the palace. Apparently The Queen phoned the Home Secretary saying she was upset he had not been arrested and inquiring why he was still a free man.

There is the alternate story that HM told Frank that she was upset personally, and that she has spoken to a senior minister asking questions. Apparently Frank broke protocol by publishing the information he received from the Monarch.

For me, HM shouldn't be phoning the Home Secretary telling him she's upset and inquiring why he's still here. Or talking to a BBC reporter which ever story is true. It's not a matter she should be involved in. Abu Hamzah has broken the rules and should be punished, but it is for the courts to decide how that happens.

She can voice her opinions all she likes to her family, like most of us do, but to nobody that could take her words in a persuasive manner.
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For me, HM shouldn't be phoning the Home Secretary telling him she's upset and inquiring why he's still here. Or talking to a BBC reporter which ever story is true. It's not a matter she should be involved in. Abu Hamzah has broken the rules and should be punished, but it is for the courts to decide how that happens.

She can voice her opinions all she likes to her family, like most of us do, but to nobody that could take her words in a persuasive manner.
It is very much HMs prerogative to advise, and to be advised on matters of state by her Ministers. She did not put her views out in the public domain, the BBC did.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:22 AM
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It is very much HMs prerogative to advise, and to be advised on matters of state by her Ministers. She did not put her views out in the public domain, the BBC did.
Well there are two stories, she spoke to the Home Secretary or she spoke to a BBC reporter. In the Home Secretary case, apparently she phoned him up to express her upset and to ask why he was still here? How is that advising or receiving advise?
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:31 AM
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Well there are two stories, she spoke to the Home Secretary or she spoke to a BBC reporter. In the Home Secretary case, apparently she phoned him up to express her upset and to ask why he was still here? How is that advising or receiving advise?
The one thing you can be sure of is that in 60 years, this monarch has never been accused of overstepping her constitutional role. We are clearly dealing with limited information here, but I still fail to understand why "HM shouldn't be phoning the Home Secretary telling him she's upset and inquiring why he's still here."
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We are clearly dealing with limited information here, but I still fail to understand why "HM shouldn't be phoning the Home Secretary telling him she's upset and inquiring why he's still here."
I don't see how it's limited information, Frank Gardner gave a lengthy interview to Radio4 about his conversation with The Queen. The issue is that he told when The Queens political conversations are supposed to be private and off limits. My issue is that The Queen spoke to a BBC reporter about something that doesn't concern her. Of all the people to voice opinions to, a reporter is the best person she could find?
This interview took place years ago and Frank decided to monopolise today's announcement and release some new information for the BBC to latch onto.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:55 AM
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How come the safety and well-being of her people doesn't concern the Queen? Abu Hamza was a threat for Britain, something everyone could see, and that includes non-British people who wondered whether Brits have completely lost their marbles for allowing someone to openly preach hatred for their country from their streets and squares. I mean, if a person chose to live in Armenia and then called it a "toilet" and called to fight against it, goodbye would have been the nicest possible thing he could hear.

The Queen obviously shared the concern, and asked her ministers why a man who had clearly broken many laws was still at large. She's supposed to be the protector of the country's laws after all.
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