Princess Beatrice of York Current Events 7: May 2007-September 2007

[kaydura0717]

I like her dress in that pic but not her pose.

[iceflower]

Some more additional holiday pics I've found :

Bea having a little discussion with Sarah at the Club 55 in St Tropez

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and enjoying some time with her boyfriend

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[Bella]

Thanks, Iceflower. I wish I knew what Sarah was telling her. It looks like a bit of mother scolding.

[Skydragon]

Bea has achieved 3 passes in her exams, an A pass in Drama, B passes in History and film studies.

[kpusa1981]

She did better than Harry is that because she worked harder than her cousin or is it that she actually recieved help for her dyslexia unlike Harry?

[Skydragon]

I don't remember what Harry passed in, but I don't think many would rate passes in Drama or Film study as hard to achieve. Whatever happened to English, Maths, Sciences, Languages, no wonder the pass rate has risen once again!

[Lamyah]

Congratulation to Princess Beatrice for surpassing her cousins in the same field of studies. For a young woman who could not read at her grade level few yrs ago due to dyslexia, it must have taken hard work and great achievements to pick subjects like History and Drama which require linguistic analysis and intense writing papers. I read she also managed above B average in her math and science courses.

Originally Posted by kpusa1981

She did better than Harry is that because she worked harder than her cousin or is it that she actually recieved help for her dyslexia unlike Harry?

unlike Prince Harry, Prince Andrew hired a private tutor for Beatrice, to to coach their daughter prior to her GCSE exams.

[selrahc4]

It seems that staying over the extra year at her grade level has paid off. Congratualtions to the Princess. Still, taking a gap year will have her beginning university studies at age 20. Rather late, but perhaps she and her sister will start at the same time.

[HighGoalHighDreams]

Sel, that would be highly unlikely. It is considered rare for a British student not to take a gap year, and it is unlikely that Eugenie will not.

Lam, I don't think that was quite the case. Bea received tutoring at a well-known centre, which is a different set-up (I am speaking from experience having received testing prep from a centre before my stanardized exams). The set-up as well as the goals would have been different.

Kp, Harry was never an academic, but he did receive help for his dsylexia/ learning troubles and, like Beatrice, repeated a year. Harry was working towards very different goals: he was not testing to get into university, he was testing to meet the requirement for his chosen career in the military, and it was therefore not the marks but the passing that mattered. Harry's academic problems were much more quiet than Beatrice's. This can be attributed to the differing views the sets of parents had on how private these matters should be. However, there is definitely documentation of Harry receiving help even while still at Ludgrove. The specifics of this help is largely unknown, because it was not a matter that either of his parents felt needed to or should be discussed with the public.

Harry's passes were a D in geography and B in Art. Before passing judgement on any A-level subjects, I think we should look closely at the course work. Looking at photographs of artwork Harry completed at A-level, I know better than to think that subjects that sound like push-overs really are. Whether a subject is difficult very much depends on the person. (As an interesting side note, Harry's D was not the only D in his year, as was widely reported for many months to follow. It was the only D in geography for his year, and geography had not been a popular subject for Eton in that year. There were several other D's, in other subjects, among Harry's class.)

[selrahc4]

Originally Posted by HighGoalHighDreams

It is considered rare for a British student not to take a gap year,

Is that really true? Do most British 17 or 18 year olds have the economic wherewithal to take a year off before beginning a university (or equivalent) course?

I've thought for quite some time that the "gap year" mode would be more prevalent in the United States if it were not for the fact that so many families depend on medical coverage that is in effect for those 18 and older only if they are full-time students.

[Skydragon]

Originally Posted by selrahc4

Is that really true? Do most British 17 or 18 year olds have the economic wherewithal to take a year off before beginning a university (or equivalent) course? .

TMK, very few take a gap year, as you say, the majority of youngsters or their parents can't afford it.

I would have thought Beatrice needed to study a little more with only the 3 passes, in what are, considered by many, to be less taxing subjects.

[HighGoalHighDreams]

I should have clarified... I had originally included "very few people from similiar background and economic standing" but erased it when I edited my post. Still, my point that the odds of someone in Eugenie's position not taking a gap year (her position in many respects, but even simply looking at her family) are slim is still true.

[kpusa1981]

Originally Posted by Skydragon

TMK, very few take a gap year, as you say, the majority of youngsters or their parents can't afford it.

I would have thought Beatrice needed to study a little more with only the 3 passes, in what are, considered by many, to be less taxing subjects.

History is an acadimic subject it is not a less taxing sujects

[Skydragon]

Originally Posted by kpusa1981

History is an acadimic subject it is not a less taxing sujects

One out of the three then to be fair.

[kpusa1981]

Originally Posted by HighGoalHighDreams

Sel, that would be highly unlikely. It is considered rare for a British student not to take a gap year, and it is unlikely that Eugenie will not.

Lam, I don't think that was quite the case. Bea received tutoring at a well-known centre, which is a different set-up (I am speaking from experience having received testing prep from a centre before my stanardized exams). The set-up as well as the goals would have been different.

Kp, Harry was never an academic, but he did receive help for his dsylexia/ learning troubles and, like Beatrice, repeated a year. Harry was working towards very different goals: he was not testing to get into university, he was testing to meet the requirement for his chosen career in the military, and it was therefore not the marks but the passing that mattered. Harry's academic problems were much more quiet than Beatrice's. This can be attributed to the differing views the sets of parents had on how private these matters should be. However, there is definitely documentation of Harry receiving help even while still at Ludgrove. The specifics of this help is largely unknown, because it was not a matter that either of his parents felt needed to or should be discussed with the public.

Harry's passes were a D in geography and B in Art. Before passing judgement on any A-level subjects, I think we should look closely at the course work. Looking at photographs of artwork Harry completed at A-level, I know better than to think that subjects that sound like push-overs really are. Whether a subject is difficult very much depends on the person. (As an interesting side note, Harry's D was not the only D in his year, as was widely reported for many months to follow. It was the only D in geography for his year, and geography had not been a popular subject for Eton in that year. There were several other D's, in other subjects, among Harry's class.)

How ever thet is only one year of help compared to Beatrice's being helped senice he was 7 years old.

[HighGoalHighDreams]

No... Harry would not have been held back a year had no extra help been done in the past. If he was receiving no help, they wouldn't have just decided to hold him back. Also, being held back is not really help in the sense I meant it, it's just giving time for help to work, help here meaning specalised attention. As I said in the post you quoted... "received help and repeated a year." :)

We really have no way of comparing Harry's help to Beatrice's, because, like I mentioned, the two families view what should be aired in public in two entirely different ways. What we do know is that Harry (according to reports that we have no reason to disbelieve) had help, in some degree, over a prolonged period of some sort, like his cousin.

[kpusa1981]

Originally Posted by HighGoalHighDreams

If he was receiving no help, they wouldn't have just decided to hold him back. Also, being held back is not really help in the sense I meant it, it's just giving time for help to work, help here meaning specalised attention. As I said in the post you quoted... "received help and repeated a year." :)

We really have no way of comparing Harry's help to Beatrice's, because, like I mentioned, the two families view what should be aired in public in two entirely different ways.

The two reasons Harry were kept back were because he had done poorly or failed everything except PE and one or both the house master and the head master thought Harry to be immature and as possibly not really Eton material. I don't think ever got prolonged help at his schools prior to " repeating the grade" before started at Eton. How do you know that he would not have been held without having had pervious help.
Skydragon, is what HighGoalHighDreams says about Harry being held back correct? Does anyone reall know if Harry recieved help before or after (ie from1998-2003) he "repeated" the grade?

[HighGoalHighDreams]

Kp, I do have articles (can give you the name of publication, title, date, etc., and am not sure of the number of articles) that I feel, being an author myself and running royalty websites of high caliber for many a year now, can be counted upon to relay the truth or whatever can be trusted as closest to the truth that are from the time it was decided Harry would repeat and from time before that, talking about him receiving help. Of course,

I understand the reasons Harry was held back: the ones you mentioned. However, a school of the caliber of Ludgrove, and with the type of management Ludgrove has, does not simply let a student fail virtually every class without assisting that student, and that is what I meant. I do know that for a fact, simply from a very rough knowledge of that school but also from wider knowledge and experience. During the time it took Harry to actually achieve all of the failing grades he did, there would have been numerous reports of his grades circulated to those in charge of him at the school. An institute of that caliber and resource, coupled with a family of that resource, does not simply dismiss news of a student failing and allow it to happen. The issue is addressed.

When I first mentioned Harry, I was meaning it all to be in comparision to Beatrice as this is her current events thread. As talk about Harry's past education would not be appropriate either on Beatrice's thread nor on Harry's CE thread, I would ask that if anyone wishes to correspond about Harry's education we could do so via PM. :)