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Old 09-25-2008, 11:29 PM
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As far as I am concerned, Jo of Palatine nailed it with her post!! She is absolutely correct in all of her comments ...the First logical one that I have read. Would that Bea could read this!
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:53 AM
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Princess Beatrice embarks on new life as a university student

Princess Beatrice embarks on new life as a university student
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:06 AM
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Princess Beatrice embarks on new life as a university student

Princess Beatrice embarks on new life as a university student
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While she has considered buying her own flat in London, Beatrice - mindful of the huge cost involved to provide it with round the clock security - thought using St James's as a base would be the best idea.

A pal tells the Daily Mail: "Obviously it will make it more difficult than normal for her to bring her new student mates for a cup of coffee, but Beatrice is a level-headed girl and thought it was the most sensible option."

Excuse me, but William could live in a shared house during his study-time without security problems ... my bet, she preferred the comfort of St. James Palace! Or it was a question of social prestige.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:08 AM
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Maybe security concerns are different when you compare the situation in London and in a small town like St. Andrews which is situated in the middle between Nowhere and the Sea, though within reach of Edinburgh.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:58 AM
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And although this isn't Wiliams' thread, and he and Beatrice have other interests. I believe that one of the things that attracted Wiliam to St. Andrews was its remoteness. But that's a good point, he hung out just as much but he wasn't in London, so that press wasn't all over him.

Again, she should be able to have somewhat of a normal life but she needs to remember that she isn't normal.

One of my few faults with Sarah and Andrew, is even though Beatrice and Eugenie have great relationships with their parents, sometimes they appear to be more friends than parents. My mum (if I was in Beatrice's position) would tell me to be careful if I felt the need to go clubbing with all the extra security and press. I wonder what Sarah says.
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To me Beatrice is the epitome of a spoilt rotten "I can do whatever I want" British upperclass snob. This may sound very harsh, but she has never ever given me the impression that she cares about anyone else but herself.
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:26 AM
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To me Beatrice is the epitome of a spoilt rotten "I can do whatever I want" British upperclass snob. This may sound very harsh, but she has never ever given me the impression that she cares about anyone else but herself.
Well..that does seem a little harsh (you are entitled to your opinion however). She has done some community service but unfortunately, her partying and hobknobing with the rich and famous stands out a little more than her work. I totally agree with Jo that she should have used her gap year to do a little more public service. Didn't her cousins do that?

Again, her problem is two fold. She is acting like some normal teenagers (concerened with having fun, paryting, liking flashy things). Not all teenagers are like this of course, the problem is who she is. She is not normal and in ecomonic times such as this, she can't afford to appear like a rich partying person. She needs to show some concern for others. Cause they who are struggling are not going to like paying security for her to party while they can't afford to pay their mortgage, put gas in the car or food on the table.
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Well it may be harsh but once again, it seems to be true. In any event, Bea is NOT a teenager rather she is 20 years old! She is more than aware of who she is and should act accordingly.
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Her friends, sorry parents, should give her some advice... then I remember who her parents are.
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What time do the clubs close in London? In LA everything shuts down by 2am, but in NY it's all night in most places...
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Teenager/young adult...she is still discovering who and what she is. Unlike most of her peers, however, she is doing with full court press.
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What time do the clubs close in London? In LA everything shuts down by 2am, but in NY it's all night in most places...
About 3.30 - 4AM.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:06 PM
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I have said previously that I think it is a little early to pass judgement on Bea, but I do think she could have spent her gap year a bit more productively. If se is not interested in the arts and does not want to do the museums, she could have travelled, done some voluntary work, learned a language, or just anything that would add to her in the long term. Instead she just appears to have frittered it away not doing anything very productive.

Also, I do find it odd that on her first two nights of college, she was out till late, and that too not with her new college mates. This is the time the best relationships are formed.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:08 PM
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It's not fair to expect Bea to be already out with new college friends on the first couple nights. Most everyone I know (and I am a student) was out with people they already knew for the first couple nights. That is not when the best relationships are formed. This takes many (I would say most) people all of their freshman year and it is rare for the very first people you meet to be your fast friends.

I assure you that I suffered no ill effects by not meeting people my first day at school and partying with them that day.

Also, if she had gone out with some new university friends, we would be reading a half-page of comments about how she met people and just asked them to go out clubbing, which means she's elitist and only wants friends who can afford expensive partying, or she jumped into finding friends too fast and they are just feeding off her money by going to expensive clubs with her, or, or....
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:44 PM
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The school she's going to looks kind of dingy, does it have a good reputation?
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A couple of points about the friends thing: 1) first, Beatrice is not a normal person she isn't just going to make friends just like that. How does she know she can trust them? She doesn't know them like they don't know her. Making friends like that can have her end up on Youtube, or something like that. 2) It might be different if she went to school not in her hometown so to speak. If she away, and you don't know anyone else you might be apt to make new friends rather quickly. But she is going to school in her city (or pretty close by) . Of course she is going to cling to people she knows. My first year, I commuted to school and didn't make too many new friends. I was there to go to class then I was OUT! Compared to my second year, when I lived on campus, and I was there with my fellow students...I made tons of friends.

But again, because of who she is. Beatrice will always have friends like her....those who grew up in her social circle. She might find it easier to trust them.
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It's true, when you don't live on campus...it's hard to meet new people on any real level.
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And although this isn't Wiliams' thread, and he and Beatrice have other interests. I believe that one of the things that attracted Wiliam to St. Andrews was its remoteness.
I don't think anyone could call St Andrews 'remote', I'm sure it was picked because it offers one of the finest educations after Oxbridge.
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I've read it was picked purely because it was in Scotland, there was some specific reason mentioned, but they said the Queen was pleased because of the location in particular.
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I've read it was picked purely because it was in Scotland, there was some specific reason mentioned, but they said the Queen was pleased because of the location in particular.
It seems you are partially correct. The Prince of Wales - Prince William gives an interview at the start of his university career
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Prince William disclosed that he chose the university first, and his course second. He particularly wanted to study in Scotland, and applied to St Andrews, its oldest university, after falling in love with the windswept town on the east coast of Fife. "The reason I didn't want to go to an English university is because I have lived there and wanted to get away and try somewhere else. I also knew I would be seeing a lot of Wales in the future.
"And I do love Scotland. There is plenty of space, I love the hills and mountains and I thought St Andrews had a real community feel to it.
St Andrews: a university fit for a student prince? - Education News, Education - The Independent
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It's not Eton, where the prince spent his school days, but it's almost the next best thing in the university world. St Andrews is thought to take more students from south of the border than any other Scottish university.
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