Princess Beatrice of York Current Events 14: July 2011-December 2013

[Thain]

The story's been taken down. I just got a 404 when I tried the link.

Looks like the Telegraph just moved it to their fashion section:

Clash of the front-row Princesses at Paris Fashion Week - Telegraph

 

[Mermaid1962]

Sounds like the "bodyguard" ain't got no education neither. Maybe he doesn't know that there are princesses in Asia. I can't imagine Princess Beatrice being rude, I really can't.

 

[Zonk]

Please note that all posts regarding Beatrice's future have been moved to http://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...princesses-beatrice-and-eugenie-10023-43.html

 

[iceflower]

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Here are two more pics of Beatrice on October 5, the day she attended the
Elie Saab Spring/Summer 2012 fashion show, strolling in Paris:



** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 **

 

[dbarn67]

Except for the red hair she's really all her father,isn't she? That 2nd picture really shows his features in her face.

 

[Meadow]

Beatrice can also look like Queen Victoria I think it's the eyes. She can look different each time I see her.

 

[Mirabel]

Beatrice can also look like Queen Victoria I think it's the eyes. She can look different each time I see her.

I agree; she looks very much like Queen Victoria.

 

[iceflower]

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Princess Beatrice and boyfriend Dave attended the inauguration of Sir Richard Branson's
new venture - the Spaceport USA in New Mexico, where a lucky few will be able to travel
into space, October 18, 2011.



** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3 **

** thesun: Sir Richard Branson pad is so spacey **

** parabolicarc.com: Exclusive Desert Party Pics: Kate Winslet, Branson, Buzz and More **

 

[Lumutqueen]

Princess Beatrice and Dave Clark are currently sat watching Strictly Come Dancing live on BBC1. She also attended 'O' by Cirque de Soleil in Las Vegas last Friday. http://www.theticketdepot.com/princess-beatrice-attends-o-by-cirque-du-soleil-in-las-vegas

 

[sndral]

according to the article she visited New Mexico and San Francisco before Las Vegas. Wonder if she flew to San Francisco to see her mom while her mom was in Sunnyvale.

 

[iceflower]

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Here they are - as mentioned - in the audience of Strictly Come Dancing:




** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3 **

 

[Mirabel]

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Princess Beatrice and boyfriend Dave attended the inauguration of Sir Richard Branson's
new venture - the Spaceport USA in New Mexico, where a lucky few will be able to travel
into space, October 18, 2011.



** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3 **

** thesun: Sir Richard Branson pad is so spacey **

** parabolicarc.com: Exclusive Desert Party Pics: Kate Winslet, Branson, Buzz and More **

It's odd; people are so quick to criticize the Middletons for any sign that they might be cashing in on a royal connection, but no one says a word about Dave Clark.

I really hope he is not just using Beatrice!

 

[MRSJ]

It's odd; people are so quick to criticize the Middletons for any sign that they might be cashing in on a royal connection, but no one says a word about Dave Clark.

I really hope he is not just using Beatrice!

It's a good point, though I suspect that's because Bea isn't as close to the throne and David won't ever be 'consort' to the monarch (assuming no tragedies befall the family)

 

[Thain]

Dave works for Richard Branson so I'm not sure how he would be using Beatrice in this case.

 

[sliver_bic]

It's odd; people are so quick to criticize the Middletons for any sign that they might be cashing in on a royal connection, but no one says a word about Dave Clark.

I really hope he is not just using Beatrice!

Dave's never done anything that can be construed as cashing in on royal connections. He comes from a wealthy background and had a great job to begin with, that he was set up by one of Branson's kids might be seen as that family trying to keep their royal connections strong but Dave's been a quiet boy going about his business.

 

[Diarist]

Dave has certainly conducted himself impeccably so far - at least on the face of things, but I think that the point about Richard Branson is well-made.

Richard Branson presents as charming and affable. He went to a good Public School [which in England is a 'private' school], Stowe, perhaps bettter known as the alma mater of HSH Prince Rainier of Monaco. But Richard Branson is also a 'canny lad': he is an inveterate self-publicist when it come to publicising the work and business of his Virgin group of companies: over the years, his PR stunts have served him very well as he highlights his business interests: his balloon crossings, his appearance [cross!]-dressed as a bride to publicise his Virgin weddings empire. Intestingly, in person, he spends a lot of time claiming that he doesn't understand the finer points of business or the corporate world etc. I have even sat in on a meeting with him when he claimed he could not even operate a calculator. Yet he is a man who has built a multi-billion pound business empire. His affable, bumbling ' I don't know what I am really doing' approach has, in fact, served him very well, as it has enabled him to somewhat 'fly below the radar' [aviation pun unintentionalm!!] and avoid any criticism from anti-capitalists etc. etc. He has - cannily - always been very keen to publically proclaim his 'green credentials' whilst in reality operating an airline that is much larger than many fleets whose CEOs etc have drawn a lot of flak from environmentalists.....

I am sure that Richard Branson would never be seen to doing anything so crude as to publically 'trade' off the relationship with his staff member Dave and Beatrice, but it is, in my humble opinion, a potential area of conflict of interest and it would be perhaps naive to think otherwise: just look at Necker Island: Richard Branson has been generous in allowing Dave and Beatrice and for that matter Sarah to holiday at Necker... a kind gesture from the Yorks' friend, I am sure, but do not forget that Necker Island is also available to rent commercially [if you can afford it!!] and I am sure that the 'Royal connection' has done the rental credentials of Necker no harm at all. And I was told at Ascot the other week that the Yorks have all been invited to Holly Branson's Necker wedding in a few weeks' time. A few well-placed pictures of the Yorks at the wedding again won't do any harm to the image of Necker. And now look at the visit by Beatrice to New Mexico. It seems straightforward, but there again, it is a subtle way of getting newspaper column interest as there is a Royal involved.......... so one has to be realistic about the nature of the relationship between Richard Branson and Beatrice.......

Just my thoughts, which are of course not meant to offend,

Diarist

 

[Irish Eyes]

And I was told at Ascot the other week that the Yorks have all been invited to Holly Branson's Necker wedding in a few weeks' time. A few well-placed pictures of the Yorks at the wedding again won't do any harm to the image of Necker.
Diarist

Diarist, when you say the Yorks have all been invited to Holly Branson's
wedding are you referring to the three ladies or is Andrew expected to attend as well? I would have throught Necker is very private so I'm not so sure the press would get any photos? I glad that the couple hadn't to change their wedding plans because of the fire.

 

[Diarist]

Irish Eyes, I can only report to forum members what I was told, and that was that 'the Yorks had all been invited', and by that, I took it to mean that Andrew, too, had been included in the invitation.

To put this into context and also give you such background information as I have, although I understand that it is the York ladies who are closest to Richard Branson / Holly etc, when it comes to invitations from Richard Branson to Sarah, [i.e. for holidays/ parties etc] I have in the past been told that such invitations ALWAYS include Andrew as well, on the basis that Branson considers the Yorks as a de facto couple. It's a form of 'politeness' in the UK [and other countries as well, come to that] that unless a formal social event is a sort of 'girls only' type of social occasion [e.g Debutantes' Mothers holding what are known as 'Mums' Lunches'] you always invite both halves of a couple to a party, wedding etc not just the wife, unless the couple has separated. Now, I do know of course that Andrew and Sarah are divorced, but over the years the Yorks have holidayed together etc if you see what I mean..

My own speculation is that [at most] only Sarah and the girls would attend Holly's wedding, as I can't see Andrew going along. I was only told that 'the Yorks had been invited' - whether Sarah and the girls all attend is another matter. The girls may of course have other committments, although I am pretty sure that Sarah would probably be loathe to miss a freebie time in the sun.....

And yes, Irish Eyes, you are quite right, Necker is very private and the paparazzi can't just stalk the island with their long lenses etc but never let it be forgotten that Richard Branson is a canny person when it comes to publicity. I am sure that pictures of Holly's wedding will be released by Branson, and if the York Princesses and indeed Sarah are there, I am sure that some shots of the guests [and there are bound to be a quite a few celebrities there, anyway, I am sure - those are the sort of circles Richard Branson moves in...] will be released too. I would not even be surprised if a deal is done with 'Hello' come to that - in return for a donation to charity etc. And so, even though you are 100 per cent right about the privacy of Necker, I am fairly sure that photos of the occasion will find their way quite legitimately into the public arena. Let's see if I am right...

Hope this helps,

Alex

 

[Irish Eyes]

Diarist thank you for taking the time to reply, very much appreciated.
I think your speculation will prove to be spot on. It's been said many times here Diarist but I will say it again, your posts are unrivaled, honest and fair.

 

[sndral]

Virgin on royalty: Richard Branson's children have forged an intriguing social alliance with the young Royals. But is Daddy pulling all the strings? | Mail Online
A little background of the Branson/royal connections
Richard Branson interview: I'm so excited about the wedding of the year - my daughter Holly's - mirror.co.uk
And more - I didn't realize that it all went as far back as William and Harry as children visiting Necker Island w/ Diana.
Not meaning to go into the feared "off topic" but posted in case others, like myself, are interested in the connections between Dave's employer and Beatrice's family.

 

[rcra]

Oh, God, I know my comment might cause quite a stir, but she is turning into quite the jetsetter. And that is not a good thing...

 

[Lumutqueen]

Oh, God, I know my comment might cause quite a stir, but she is turning into quite the jetsetter. And that is not a good thing...

If she's paying her way during the jetsetting and she travels on commercial flights - I see nothing wrong with that. There have been no stories of Beatrice getting free flights anyway, so why is her travelling not a good thing?

 

[rcra]

Nothing wrong at all... To each their own. But I think that is the kind of thing that brings so much criticism to the Yorks. People - myself included will not care if she is paying or not. The point is I think she should be doing something more productive with her time. Like getting a job or start helping out on the "family business"

Just my opinion anyway...

 

[Mermaid1962]

Speaking as someone from across the Pond, that strikes me as a particularly British thing. It seems to be part of the culture to be self-deprecating, along with "mustn't grumble."

Intestingly, in person, he spends a lot of time claiming that he doesn't understand the finer points of business or the corporate world etc. I have even sat in on a meeting with him when he claimed he could not even operate a calculator.

 

[Lumutqueen]

Nothing wrong at all... To each their own. But I think that is the kind of thing that brings so much criticism to the Yorks. People - myself included will not care if she is paying or not. The point is I think she should be doing something more productive with her time. Like getting a job or start helping out on the "family business"

Just my opinion anyway...

I accept that if her grandmother wants her to, she should start engagements. I also think that if that is not the case, she should find something to do. But even I will admit the events she has been doing lately promote the royal family in a new light, not as the people in their ivory castle.

You really don't care if Beatrice gets free flights to fly to New Mexico, San Francisco and LA? Or back to England on the same day?
Well yes your opinion but a lot of people, more than those who don't, will care a huge amount if she's paying her own way or not.

 

[Mermaid1962]

Plus there's never been any indication that she's taken illicit drugs or engaged in wild parties--which is part of the implication of the word "jet-setter."

If she's paying her way during the jetsetting and she travels on commercial flights - I see nothing wrong with that. There have been no stories of Beatrice getting free flights anyway, so why is her travelling not a good thing?

 

[rcra]

I accept that if her grandmother wants her to, she should start engagements. I also think that if that is not the case, she should find something to do. But even I will admit the events she has been doing lately promote the royal family in a new light, not as the people in their ivory castle.

You really don't care if Beatrice gets free flights to fly to New Mexico, San Francisco and LA? Or back to England on the same day?
Well yes your opinion but a lot of people, more than those who don't, will care a huge amount if she's paying her own way or not.

You're right, I do care. I assume she is paying her herself so I didn't go there... But this events she is attending... I think this is the wrong move - to me it doesn't say "Royals are cool" it says "Royals do nothing and spend people's money". I hate to make comparisons but if she took the Zara road, and said: "look, I want to be a private citizen", then by all means do whatever you want, whenever you want. But if your dad is insisting that you have security at all time, than you better step up and do something do earn it. I realize that tis might be a problem caused by Andrew and not Beatrice herself. But she is 23 years-old and needs to start making decisions about her own life
The thing with Beatrice is that I keep hoping that she would step up and be prove her worth, that she is different from "Mom" and "Dad". I have too much faith in her, I guess. I keep getting disappointed

 

[Zonk]

Please note that posts that have nothing to do with Beatrice's Current Events have been deleted as OFF TOPIC.

 

[Bella]

Perception is everything, imo. Pss B is often seen jetting here or there for a party or a special event. Whether she is footing the bill for these costs (which I doubt) or not isn't what is going to come across to the public, I'm afraid. As a member of the BRF, I think she should be more sensitive to what the ordinary person is going through during these tough financial times, rather than (unintentionally, I'm sure) seeming to flaunt her lavish and priviledged lifestyle. I think a good mix of Pss B doing volunteer work and/or starting some sort of job, coupled with the more glamourous photos of her nights on the town and her travels would make for better PR. Just my opinion, of course.

 

[Osipi]

Weren't Dave and Bea in NM as part of Virgin's space travel ventures or something similar?

I would imagine that as Dave is an employee of Virgin, they most likely flew the Virgin airlines and the expenses of the trip picked up by the company.