Princess Beatrice of York Current Events 14: July 2011-December 2013


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This may very well have been why Sarah was at Balmoral - to discuss what Beatrice's future was within the family as she was no longer working by then.
 
:previous: I'm guessing that any plans to officially involve Princess Beatrice in public appearances would specify that Sarah keep a low profile. Speaking of which, I haven't seen pictures of Sarah out-and-about lately.
 
Roslyn said:
If she's hunting out work for herself this way, I'm sure BP/CH & whoever else is involved will pounce.
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Haven't they, in a sense?
They keep stressing that her events are not official, and they don't appear in the court circular.

But if Beatrice wracks up dozens of patronages, it may prove difficult to dislodge her without Charles coming across as a bully.
 
Upper class women and female members of the aristocracy have patronages (actually, so do older males). Hospitals, nurserys. schools, womens groups, supporting local health issues, rural issues, etc etc. That's how it is in the UK.

So she can go on collecting as many patronages as she likes, and the Queen doesn't have to do a thing. It doesn't cost the public purse a penny, she is (hopefully) happy with what she is doing and the patronages get publicity and support.

Making Charles out to be a villain is a nonsense. He doesnt get involved in what she does. The issue is COST, not Beatrice, Eugenie or anyone else personally. That is perceived cost as well as real.

No cost, happy princess, happy patronage - win-win-win.

Get rid of the idea that quantity means she will end working as a fully fledged royal - cos it just doesnt work that way.
 
cepe said:
Of course there is a choice - she carries on doing it under her own auspices and not those of the Court.

But, the "slimmed down" court was a one-off statement made by a PR person in 1992. Not Charles, never repeated.

Also - organisations write and request patronages and they dont always choose the top team.
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I agree on all three points. That "PR" person made a statement that has taken on a life all it's own and is now being used as a club to beat Beatrice over the head.

Let's be clear here, none of us know how much money Andrew does or doesn't have nor how much he does or doesn't give each of his daughters. For that matter we don't know if trusts were set up for the the Queen's children or grand children at birth. We don't even know if they want careers but basically they don't have to have one. Most of their contemporaries dabble a little and play a lot yet we don't see inches of invective in the rags about them. No, it's only the York's and at the moment Beatrice is the target.

Poor 'Charles the Mean and Grumpy', is variously portrayed as being either narked or incensed at the mere mention of the House Of York and particularly at Beatrice who's trying to barge her way into royal life. But hang about . . . she is as royal as his kids! It's as if they don't acknowledge that she is the Queen's granddaughter just as Wills and Harry are her grandsons. In that they are equal.

People also assert that Charles loathes all his siblings, Andrew and his daughters in particular. Worse, that he will go to any lengths the 'cast them out of the Kingdom' so to speak. Yet we don't see any evidence of this. In fact, we don't know how well they all get on except that the paps following Harry spotted him spending time with the Yorks on holiday around Andrew's birthday.

We know that both William and Harry socialise with Beatrice and Eugenie in the poshest clubs and have no reason to suspect they did not join them at their after function parties at Clarence House. Even Zara used to, riding permitting, before she married Mike.

Someone mentioned that Beatrice's dyslexia may have made her job too difficult. That too is a possibility, after all, we all know that school is different to the the job. She may have had to reassess her chosen career. But the fact is we don't know and really, is there any reason we should?
 
Mirabel said:
Haven't they, in a sense?
They keep stressing that her events are not official, and they don't appear in the court circular.

But if Beatrice wracks up dozens of patronages, it may prove difficult to dislodge her without Charles coming across as a bully.
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The Michaels of Kent have a huge amount of patronages between them and the Queen has bestowed the Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian order on Prince Michael as well as a number of honorary military titles. The Prince has represented both the Queen and Prince Philip over the years as well often accompanied by his wife. YET their engagements STILL don't make the court circular unless they attend an engagement with the Queen at say Buckingham Palace or Windsor Castle ie Beatrice can work as hard as she likes but if Charles dosn't want to make her an official working member of the firm he won't. In Prince Michael's case as a younger child of a royal Duke he was never going to be entitled to an official role anyway so it wasn't as though he was being snubbed by the Queen. Indeed bearing this in mind he has done very well in carving out a role for himself in the family which the Queen seems to appreciate. Beatrice on the other hand as the eldest child of a royal Duke could in the past have taken for granted a future as a full time working member of the royal family. That is no longer the case and she can't assume that Uncle Charles will look as favourably on her as her Grandmother has done with her own cousin Michael and thus provide her with a niche within the family. Only time will tell.
 
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cepe said:
Upper class women and female members of the aristocracy have patronages (actually, so do older males). Hospitals, nurserys. schools, womens groups, supporting local health issues, rural issues, etc etc. That's how it is in the UK.

So she can go on collecting as many patronages as she likes, and the Queen doesn't have to do a thing. It doesn't cost the public purse a penny, she is (hopefully) happy with what she is doing and the patronages get publicity and support.

Making Charles out to be a villain is a nonsense. He doesnt get involved in what she does. The issue is COST, not Beatrice, Eugenie or anyone else personally. That is perceived cost as well as real.

No cost, happy princess, happy patronage - win-win-win.

Get rid of the idea that quantity means she will end working as a fully fledged royal - cos it just doesnt work that way.
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Well, you probably understand these things better than I do, because I'm an American. But it seems to me it's an issue of not merely being the patron of some charity, but of being a Royal patron!
I remember reading that Beatrice offered to be patron of the York theater, and they were delighted at having acquired a Royal patron.

So, if such places are able to boast about their Royal patron, will there really be much difference if that patron is Beatrice or Harry?
 
You need an appropriate patron (royal or not). Harry has not shown any interest in the theatre. Beatrice has AND is "of York" - great combo. Press love Harry because he is unpredicatable (is that what a royal patron should be?); Beatrice will behave well but might wear another bonkers hat (worth having if hat is auctioned for charity)

Long winded way of saying 6 of one and 2x3's of t'other (as they say in Yorkshire)
 
MARG said:
I agree on all three points. That "PR" person made a statement that has taken on a life all it's own and is now being used as a club to beat Beatrice over the head.

Let's be clear here, none of us know how much money Andrew does or doesn't have nor how much he does or doesn't give each of his daughters. For that matter we don't know if trusts were set up for the the Queen's children or grand children at birth. We don't even know if they want careers but basically they don't have to have one. Most of their contemporaries dabble a little and play a lot yet we don't see inches of invective in the rags about them. No, it's only the York's and at the moment Beatrice is the target.

Poor 'Charles the Mean and Grumpy', is variously portrayed as being either narked or incensed at the mere mention of the House Of York and particularly at Beatrice who's trying to barge her way into royal life. But hang about . . . she is as royal as his kids! It's as if they don't acknowledge that she is the Queen's granddaughter just as Wills and Harry are her grandsons. In that they are equal.

People also assert that Charles loathes all his siblings, Andrew and his daughters in particular. Worse, that he will go to any lengths the 'cast them out of the Kingdom' so to speak. Yet we don't see any evidence of this. In fact, we don't know how well they all get on except that the paps following Harry spotted him spending time with the Yorks on holiday around Andrew's birthday.

We know that both William and Harry socialise with Beatrice and Eugenie in the poshest clubs and have no reason to suspect they did not join them at their after function parties at Clarence House. Even Zara used to, riding permitting, before she married Mike.

Someone mentioned that Beatrice's dyslexia may have made her job too difficult. That too is a possibility, after all, we all know that school is different to the the job. She may have had to reassess her chosen career. But the fact is we don't know and really, is there any reason we should?
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Well put! This young woman has done nothing to warrant the negative comments from posters on this thread and from the tabloids. She is a granddaughter of the reigning Queen and 6th in line (5th for most of her life) to the throne ... she's not some wannabe trying to weasel her way into the royal family. Leave her alone!
 
Seems to me the ever present underlying negativity toward Charles and those who might play it up might be at work here....ooh,big bad Charles wants to squeeze out other family members! After awhile the Windsor start sounding like the Corleones or Sopranos with all the supposed machinations and backbiting going on.
 
Y'know, its even very possible that Beatrice doesn't give a fig (newton or otherwise) if she's an "official" working member of the Royal Family or not. Perhaps we're all making a mountain out of a molehill here.

I would think there's a very strong possibility that Beatrice is working for her charities and patronages for no other reason than she's actually very interested in what they are and what they do and feels she wants to do what she can for them.

If she feels that her time and energies should be directed towards this calling as her future, I would think that people would admire her altruism and caring heart rather than whine about getting a "real" job. Not many among us would or could have the opportunities Beatrice has to make an impact on other's lives and do it because they want to and not because they are expected to.

Just a bit of food for thought. Now I'm hungry again..... ahh such is life.
 
I'm sorry but I consider 6th in line pretty low in the pecking order and she's only going to move further away from the throne when William and Kate have more children and Harry starts a family.
 
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6th is actually quite high when you remember who can be Coucillors of State - those who stand in for the monarch when said monarch is out of the country. They are the next four in the line of succession over 21 and resident in the UK - currently Charles, William, Harry and Andrew. Unless The Queen lives to see George reach 21 and then Charles lives to see a younger sibling reach 21 then Beatrice will be high enough to be able to actually sign legislation into law.
 
The consort of the sovereign is also one. So when Charles is King, he, Camilla, William and Harry would all have to be out of the country for Andrew and Bea to be needed to sign stuff.
 
Osipi said:
Y'know, its even very possible that Beatrice doesn't give a fig (newton or otherwise) if she's an "official" working member of the Royal Family or not. Perhaps we're all making a mountain out of a molehill here.

I would think there's a very strong possibility that Beatrice is working for her charities and patronages for no other reason than she's actually very interested in what they are and what they do and feels she wants to do what she can for them.

If she feels that her time and energies should be directed towards this calling as her future, I would think that people would admire her altruism and caring heart rather than whine about getting a "real" job. Not many among us would or could have the opportunities Beatrice has to make an impact on other's lives and do it because they want to and not because they are expected to.

Just a bit of food for thought. Now I'm hungry again..... ahh such is life.
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Couldn't agree more!
 
Skippyboo said:
The consort of the sovereign is also one. So when Charles is King, he, Camilla, William and Harry would all have to be out of the country for Andrew and Bea to be needed to sign stuff.
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Not necessarily - the monarch can appoint any 4 of the CoS's not just the first two available in the line of succession so it could be Andrew and Beatrice due to the other commitments of William and Harry as this only happens when the King is absent and that usually means the consort is away as well e.g. Philip has been eligible since 1952 and has never served as he has always accompanied The Queen when she has gone overseas.
 
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Beatrice and boyfriend Dave attended the private view of Nikolai von Bismarck's new photography exhibition 'In Ethiopia' at 12 Francis Street Gallery in London today, December 3. On pic 2 you can see them with Prince Pavlos and Princess Maria-Olympia.



** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** gettyimages gallery **
 
Maria-Olympia looks so much like her mother, Dave looks like a 12 year old school kid in that jacket.
 
HRH Princess Beatrice at Christmas Carols by Candlelight Event

HRH Princess Beatrice at Christmas Carols by Candlelight held in St Luke’s Church, Chelsea, on Monday, 2 December, 2013

This year Christmas Carols by Candlelight was in aid of Children in Crisis in which HRH Princess Beatrice is a global ambassador of , she was a guest reader at this event, sadly no pictures

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Christmas Carols by Candlelight | Children in Crisis
 
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Beatrice's necklace looks exactly like the necklace Catherine wore to the movie to me, how odd.
 
It does appear to be the same necklace. Very nice of Beatrice to say hello to the paps.
 
Dman said:
It does appear to be the same necklace. Very nice of Beatrice to say hello to the paps.
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I remember Sarah once being quoted saying she taught her daughters to smile for the photographers because "no-one wants to see a grumpy princess". :D
 
Love seeing so much of HRH Princess Beatrice. Her bright eyes and smile are a real treat. And she always looks genuinely happy to be helping out her patronages.
 
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Love seeing so much of HRH Princess Beatrice. Her bright eyes and smile are a real treat. And she always looks genuinely happy to be helping out her patronages.
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I think Beatrice is just delighted at having her picture taken!
 
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