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Old 07-18-2006, 08:07 AM
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Does Bea get her very own coat-of-arms when she reaches 18?
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:13 AM
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To miss such an important birthday (her 18th) is quite rude of Prince Charles and The Duchess, as well as Prince's William and Harry. Regardless if you see your family all the time, were is family support in such advents? I dare to think how Prince Charles would have been unpleased if the members of the royal family wouldn't have shown up for Prince William's big bash ( even if he is heir to the throne.)

But than again I don't believe that Prince Harry had a big party, it will be interesting to see if Princess Eugiene has such an elaborate party when she turns eighteen. Maybe these types of parties are for the first born children only?
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:20 AM
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There have definitely been valid points on why some royals didn't attend but I agree with those who said that the family could have made more of an effort. Heck...Anne was traveling all week and managed to poke her nose in. As for the Queen and Prince Phillip, yes they are old...but they didn't have to stay..they could have been there for the presentation as well. And how huge is Windsor Castle...no need to Answer..I have seen it and its huge...not matter where the party was I am sure they wouldn't have been disturbed.

I am willing to give William and Harry a pass if they had to report for the army...after all William is technically in school. I believe Henry did have a party. Charles IMO is doing what he does best. Thinking of himself. But again, we don't know what the family is doign for Beatrice in private and her birthday is officially next month..but this does reflect poorly on certain individuals IMO.

If Eugenie does have a party most likely it will be for her 21st. Beatrice only had one for her 18th because of the significance of her birthday (08/08/1988). And isn't it common for the social set to have parties when they come of age? Really, not to wish bad on William and Henry, but people should pay attention to Beatrice. If William and Harry truly participate in the army as they wish to, and if something tragically happens to them and they don't have any kids.........she could end up Queen.
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:18 AM
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must say , dont mean to be nasty , I suppose everyone will disagree with me , but I really think that beatrice is rather odd looking , but I cant put my finger on what is odd about her looks .
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more guests' arrival at Princess Beatrice's 18th Birthday party
(from bruno press)

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Old 07-18-2006, 09:49 AM
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are there any royal (except the british) attended on her party?
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:50 AM
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:57 AM
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But than again I don't believe that Prince Harry had a big party, it will be interesting to see if Princess Eugiene has such an elaborate party when she turns eighteen. Maybe these types of parties are for the first born children only
Harry didn't have a party (I think he just went to a bar with some friends) he just did an interview. Peter and Zara didn't have these type of parties either so far it has just been Beatrice and William. But I would think that Eugiene would get one.

Prince Edward, Lady Sarah, Lady Helen and James Ogilivy all got a big party one year, they are all born in 1964. The Queen Mother (1900)Andrew (60), Anne, (50) Margaret (30) had a few big joint birthday.
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It was reported that The Earl and Countess of Wessex, along with Peter and Zara Phillips also attended. However, i think not any pics of them were spotted yet?
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:17 AM
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Since it was a private party there is very little information coming out, a lot is speculation or people connecting dots (the Queen and Prince Philip were at Sandringham so logically it seems they weren't there)

The only thing to compare this to is Prince William's 21st party, the link is here and you can see the amount of pictures for this party are about the same. Here is the link. http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...003-a-467.html
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:41 AM
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As for the Queen and Prince Phillip, yes they are old...but they didn't have to stay..they could have been there for the presentation as well. Charles IMO is doing what he does best. Thinking of himself.
What presentation, it was a birthday bash, that is all and it seems some people are putting far more importance on who did or did not attend, than is warranted. It was only an 18th birthday party anyway, not a 21st.

Poor Charles, seems he can never do right for some, why would you suggest he was thinking of himself, have you seen the reason he gave to Andrew as to why he wouldn't be there?

From the little we have seen, a few of Andrew and Sarah's friends were invited, a relative popped in but, the majority of the guests were people of Beatrice and Eugenies own age. That is normal at a party for an 18 year old, not a room full of oldies.
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Old 07-18-2006, 11:05 AM
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To miss such an important birthday (her 18th) is quite rude of Prince Charles and The Duchess, as well as Prince's William and Harry. Regardless if you see your family all the time, were is family support in such advents? I dare to think how Prince Charles would have been unpleased if the members of the royal family wouldn't have shown up for Prince William's big bash ( even if he is heir to the throne.)

But than again I don't believe that Prince Harry had a big party, it will be interesting to see if Princess Eugiene has such an elaborate party when she turns eighteen. Maybe these types of parties are for the first born children only?
Just so that we are all on the same page, it is not yet her birthday. Likely, there will be a small FAMILY gathering on her actual birthday. This seemed to me more of a friends, and "coming out" ball. The definition of which is to introduce a young lady to society. Typically, the extended family would not attend such an event, even in America. So my GUESS would be that her parents were definitely there, as her parents should be at a coming out ball, however, the rest of the family will probably celebrate with her privately, as most royal family occasions are often celebrated.. There is generally a public, and a private celebration.

Also, young women typically enter society at 18. So that is the reason for the big celebration. I would imagine that Zara had something like this, as will Eugenie. In America they are called Debutante Balls.

For Goodness sake!
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What was the reason Prince Charles gave to his brother Prince Andrew for not attending the party?
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Old 07-18-2006, 11:25 AM
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Just so that we are all on the same page, it is not yet her birthday. Likely, there will be a small FAMILY gathering on her actual birthday.
Also, young women typically enter society at 18. So that is the reason for the big celebration. I would imagine that Zara had something like this, as will Eugenie. In America they are called Debutante Balls.

For Goodness sake!
It was just a birthday party, IMO, not a debutantes ball. The Queen abolished the ceremony of presentation at Court of any woman, including debutantes, in 1958. Coming out balls have faded out since then, although the social season still exists.
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Old 07-18-2006, 11:32 AM
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....and Zara didn't have any thing like this at least not publically, neither did Peter or Harry, so far it has just been William and he had the entire family at his (except Edward and Sophie, who had a good excuse).

Royals are traditionally given big birthdays when they turn 21, but because of Beatrice birthday (all the 8's) she had one now.
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It was just a birthday party, IMO, not a debutantes ball. The Queen abolished the ceremony of presentation at Court of any woman, including debutantes, in 1958. Coming out balls have faded out since then, although the social season still exists.
"Just a birthday party"? Somehow, that doesn't sound right: Maybe it just stresses my personal imagination , but a birthday party for half a million pounds sounds quite expensive... when in other articles it is said that the private house of the duchess of Cornwall is worth 2.5 m. Five parties of that kind....

I also wonder where Beatrice found the 500 friends? 30, 50, even 100 friends but a number of 500 for a 18 yo school girl is a bit much, IMHO.
Does anyone know if the youngsters were invited to dinner as well or if most of them arrived only afterwards for the party?

IMHO - really, that's just what I think, - it was more the party of Sarah. She has ridden quite sucessfully on the royal card for years and while it is okay doing that, one day you have to give something back in return. As she is no longer a royal, her daughter is the only means I can think of: invite the kids of your sponsors/social relations (like Demi Moore's daughter) to your daughter's ball at Windsor Castle and you have repayed quite some of the invitations and favours of the last years. While the press won't write about such a suspicion as they don't want to hurt the feelings of princess Beatrice. And rightfully so!

Sounds unkind? It isn't. I think acting this way is well within the limits of today's society. Here in Germany you could even present the bills for the party to the taxman in order to save taxes - if you declare it a party for business purposes. Is it the same in the UK or the US - whereever Sarah mainly lives? I wonder if Sarah will use the bills for tax reduction? Or if this was the reason why only lesser royals attended?

Guess I'll never know.
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"Just a birthday party"? Somehow, that doesn't sound right: Maybe it just stresses my personal imagination , but a birthday party for half a million pounds sounds quite expensive... when in other articles it is said that the private house of the duchess of Cornwall is worth 2.5 m. Five parties of that kind....
500.000 punds???? I didn't know it was worth hald a million pounds! Wow!
Guess it's her (and her parents) buisness how they spent their money.
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Just so that we are all on the same page, it is not yet her birthday. Likely, there will be a small FAMILY gathering on her actual birthday. This seemed to me more of a friends, and "coming out" ball. The definition of which is to introduce a young lady to society. Typically, the extended family would not attend such an event, even in America. So my GUESS would be that her parents were definitely there, as her parents should be at a coming out ball, however, the rest of the family will probably celebrate with her privately, as most royal family occasions are often celebrated.. There is generally a public, and a private celebration.

Also, young women typically enter society at 18. So that is the reason for the big celebration. I would imagine that Zara had something like this, as will Eugenie. In America they are called Debutante Balls.

For Goodness sake!
It was not her coming out ball. It was a birthday party. Zara did not have one. And Harry, I believe at the time, felt a large one would not have been appropriate given the difficulties he was in with the arm band incident and the many stories about parties and drugs at that particular time.

In America, families do attend family held coming out balls at their own private homes. If your presentation is at a formal coming out ball put on by the members of society in your city, ie: Chicago, New York, and in the case of St. Louis, the one formerly known as Veiled Prophet Ball, then your parents and escort go with you.

There is a difference between the two.
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The reason Harry didn't have an 18th birthday party is because he really needed the time to focus on his schoolwork and not organizing the party. He spent the day with his family. :) He explained so during the interview.
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Also, I don't think this was a "coming out" party. It hasn't been billed as such, and no one has said it is. Sarah may say it was at some point in the future, but for now, all we can tell is that it was a birthday party.
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